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8 hours ago, Rez Ipsa said:

Wouldn’t that be an embarrassment? To take a team that thinks it’s an unstoppable juggernaut and demonstrate that it can be controlled? To win, we’ll have to stop them consistently. If we do that, we prove they were just bullying the little kids and pretending that meant they could do the same to the big kids. Add the #1 ranking, that’s prime embarrassment territory. So, I think of it as embarrassment as proof-of-concept. But, I also won’t be surprised if we’re comfortably in control the entire time and quietly build a double, triple-digit score. In 28 games at PNG under this coaching staff, the defense failed to show up in only one of them (the very first). We have the system and guys to do it. That being said, “embarrassment” isn’t the goal. I’ll take a one-point win. 

 

 

If PN-G were unranked, yes. But undefeated #1 losing a close game to one loss #3 in the third round is hardly an embarrassment, in my view. An embarrassment in this situation is a blowout loss either way.

2 hours ago, Rez Ipsa said:

I think the computer is giving MLC a lot of credit for running up the score against already defeated teams. They don’t play defense, and their offense isn’t nearly so good against even decent competition. I normally don’t feel confident going into a playoff game, but I think we’re going to embarrass them. 

Ordinary admonitions about respecting opponents, not being overconfident and preparing accordingly aside, I agree with the assessments about Montgomery Lake Creek making themselves look more unbeatable than they really are by running up the score against subpar competition.

That being said, “embarrass” is a strong word. Will we expose them? I think so. Will we embarrass them? I’m doubtful. I feel confident picking the Indians by one possession, but no more than two.

25 minutes ago, Bigdog said:

Some of that could have been the demand on the site.   MCM is a different animal than a regular game or even a playoff game as far as people wanting tickets.

The traffic on the website for this week’s playoff game during the first hour after sales opened yesterday apparently crashed the system for a few minutes. The online vendors these schools use just aren’t accustomed to this level of community support.

1 hour ago, pine curtain said:

It is a FOOTBALL game NOT a band contest.

I guarantee the last thing on the coaches mind when picking the field was the band or drill team.

If none of the bands or drill teams showed up this game it would still be played......... 

And that, my friends, is what sets PN-G apart from the rest.

9 minutes ago, Rez Ipsa said:

I agree. I’m not saying Lamar is doing the right thing. When you have a support deficit in the public, doubling down on petty, hostile behavior isn’t going to help build bridges. Lamar should be going nuts to court local support. Like, every player from both playoff teams should get a jersey, other swag, just anything to make sure the players have good memories of Lamar. And maybe they’ll get more fans to Lamar games too. 

I’ve said for years that Lamar would bring a lot of local fans out on Saturdays to see their hometown kids play. And there’s a ton of local talent that would play well in the FCS but hardly ever gets a look outside of the area. Two birds, one stone, but apparently no interest.

52 minutes ago, Rez Ipsa said:

It’s probably bad marketing for Lamar to have playoff games there. The high school fans would show up for a playoff game, and Lamar can’t get fans to come for its own team. It would underline, embarrassingly, how little local support Lamar football actually has. 

I get what you’re saying. I also get that Lamar is never going to develop local support unless it starts building local relationships. This is a good way to do that.

26 minutes ago, FearTheSpear said:

It’s just the Indianettes and Cheerleaders 

That’s correct, my mistake.

5 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

For the most part, Lamar University is out of the high school business.

Is there a reason? Seems like it would help them recruit local talent.

I have it from a reliable source that PN-G tried to secure Provost-Umphrey for the playoff game against Lake Creek this week but was refused. Lamar doesn’t have a game next Saturday, so I am not understanding why. Any insights?

8 hours ago, prepballfan said:

Why are they playing at 4 pm? is  that a mistype?

Best guess is that it has something to do with the band and Indianettes getting back to Bush from New York at 11 AM that morning.

Sucks for me because my flight lands at 3:45 PM. 😒

Got a screenshot of an email from Katy ISD staff earlier today indicating that 80% of the PN-G tickets have already been sold. That puts the crowd on our side somewhere between 4,500 and 4,800, depending on whether the band and Indianettes were accounted for in that total. And we're still 28 hours from kickoff.

On 11/12/2023 at 7:23 AM, prepballfan said:

We will be fine at Legacy. We sold it out for the Semi-final game and many Indian fans and other fans from the area sat on the LH side.  The lady working concessions told me it was the first time she had saw a side entirely sold out and that they were running out of certain items in the concessions. I am unaware if its true or not. I already have been told that some of my friend's from Nederland are coming and that quite a few will be there. Also a family I met after the Brenham game said to expect some Green and White amongst the Purple and White. So whomever makes it Ty we welcome your support. Come be part of our family if you desire. You will be welcomed with open arms. Also Ty to all the area folks who support us in the playoffs. We are blessed to have you. 

As I recall, PN-GISD staff confirmed with Katy ISD that it was the first sell-out of either side of Legacy Stadium in the stadium's history. Katy ISD staff were overwhelmed and even began opening up the grassy berms on the north end of the stadium because the stands were so packed.

Hoping we see that again Friday night. 😎

53 minutes ago, Rez Ipsa said:

I got to talk to some Brenham fans after the game. They might be the nicest people in Texas. I wish we played them every year. 

I have always said that if I had to pick a place to live in Texas other than PN-G or the Austin area (due to work, not affinity), Brenham would be at the top of my list. Great people, nice town, pretty countryside when not in a drought, and not far from Houston, Austin, San Antonio or College Station. I really like Brenham.

But I like beating them more. 😎

On 11/6/2023 at 1:45 PM, Rez Ipsa said:

Ok - So, that goes to my point. West Orange was better than a lot of teams that made the playoffs across the state that year. Would they have made it to state? Who knows. But, it wouldn’t have hurt to have West Orange in, and they might have shaken things up. 

Worth noting that West Orange beat eventual state finalist PN-G in district play in 1999.

Mid-County Madness is the best rivalry in the state, if not American high school football altogether. Its place in this thread is a given.

After that, for PN-G, I think PAM and WO-S are the closest things we have to another rival in SETX. PAM revives all the history between PN-G, TJ and Lincoln. WO-S and PN-G played some fantastic games back in the days before WO-S started dropping classifications.

Once upon a time, I would have told you the Soul Bowl was a great rivalry, and that PN-G had a budding rivalry with Central. Those days are, unfortunately, long gone. The Beaumont Bowl has potential if United and West Brook can ever get things figured out.

I agree with earlier comments about the triangle formed between Silsbee, WO-S and Jasper. I am hopeful Hamshire-Fannett will find a way to consistently stay in that mix, but only time will tell. Either way, I think the Golden Triangle has the best of 4ADII football.

Regarding how Vidor and LC-M feel about the Mid-County teams, I look at them as the angry exes of 20-4A football. Not that I wouldn’t mind seeing PN-G and Nederland resume those series. It’s just clear those feelings have always been mostly one-way. (I did like to think of the Mardi Gras Bowl as a potential nickname for the PN-G/LC-M series back in the day, though.)

I would like to see Lumberton come back into the same district as the Mid-County teams some day. Lots of Mid-County natives live in Raider Country these days. It just feels like there’s potential there.

On 10/25/2023 at 2:48 PM, MhsTitans said:

Png vs Pam is becoming a good 1.

I’ve taken to calling it the South County Showdown. And I hope it continues in future predistrict schedules.

 !!score:7/41/4

9 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

That would put them in 4A unless they opt up.

So where does Marshall come out in all of this? Splendora and Baytown Lee are both posting 5ADII numbers. Willowridge is posting 4ADI numbers. I'm skeptical any of those schools opt up (correct me if I'm wrong). Wouldn't Marshall make more sense in the district with Brenham, Richmond Randle, Lamar Consolidated and the Magnolia teams? Maybe Rudder makes more sense with the Austin- or Bastrop-area districts?

1 hour ago, lcm93 said:

F b kempner 1911

F b willowridge 1270.5

F b crawford 1256

👀👀👀👀

(@ Willowridge)

Just now, Rez Ipsa said:

I hope not. I’d rather have FBM than Splendora and Lee. 

I take your point regarding the level of competition, but I also recognize that the last few years’ worth of travel has taken its toll on the kids, their families, the fans and the district.

In this scenario, I imagine we’d have to keep Texas City. Nederland and Dayton would still be solid competition. Keep playing Memorial and WO-S in the preseason, and replace United with Silsbee, Jasper or Lumberton. That would be a solid schedule.

3 hours ago, Peppermint Patty said:

These are not the official Snapshot numbers, but these are the numbers reported for our October 26th Membership Report.

Lee - 1,849

RSS - 2,095

GCM - 2,329

Does Baytown Lee go 5ADII with this number or opt up to 5ADI?

If they go 5ADII and Splendora moves up, wouldn’t that force the Fort Bend ISD schools to move out of 9-5ADII?

1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said:

You are reading it wrong.

The cutoff from 4A to 5A was 1300. Both schools turned in below that number. They will stay 4A.

Yeah, I figured out I was looking at the 2020-22 cutoffs after posting that.

Am I reading it right that Lumberton and Vidor are both above the upper limit for 4A from last cycle? Do we think they're coming into 5ADII?

Would personally love to see PN-G and Nederland in a district with more Golden Triangle-area teams again.

1 hour ago, Rez Ipsa said:

Texas City might be a mirror of PNG last season. Their only loss was to a top-ten team (Last year, PNG’s only district loss was to top-ten FBM) and that loss has kept them out of top ten consideration and kept them in a dark horse status. But, they have very few weaknesses, and keep winning. I wouldn’t be surprised if we met them again in the postseason. 
 

Personally, I wouldn’t mind that. I like playing Texas City. There’s a long history between the two teams.

19 hours ago, 1970 said:

It's Senior night, so parents or representatives will be on the field with the players pre-game. Otherwise, this game will be about taking care of business and winning district undefeated in district. With this coaching staff, the score does not matter, and who is playing does not matter, whether it be back-up or 2nd back-up or whatever, and whoever they are playing against doesn't matter, the same intensity is expected, and the coaches have the same intensity. 

Last Friday the kid that got the USC call against him in the 4th qtr, that gave the Bulldogs a first down instead of 4th and long, regardless of PNG's big lead, got some first hand experience of that intensity from 2 or maybe 3 coaches on the sideline right in front of where we were seated.  The stands got sort of quiet and the coach could be heard, and some of the ladies (moms, probably) were getting upset. One lady yelled down at the coach (twice), "we can hear you, coach!".  I said, "that kid is learning a lesson, and 5 minutes from now he'll be back on the field, and the same coach will pat him on the back".  But the whole team will do 15 ups and downs next week, one for each yard of the penalty. 

I saw that arse-chewing from about 15 rows up. First words out of my mouth: “I’m glad to see the coaches go Saban on him.”

It’s not the first time I’ve found myself comparing PN-G’s coaches to Saban this season. And I’m very, very proud to be able to say that. It’s exactly what we need.