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38 minutes ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

Man there is alot of thirsty women in southeast texas im sure he can get a date. Hell he probably could have found one after the game

There was a woman in purple at the championship yesterday holding up a sign that read, “Our coach is hotter than yours!”

Jeff Joseph could get any single woman in SETX he wants, and probably more married and attached women than we’d like to admit.

1 hour ago, Rez Ipsa said:

If he tried to go to Nederland, PNG fans would form a human wall at the train tracks. He would need the CIA to smuggle him across the border. 

Same goes for Coach McDaniel. 

After some discussion earlier today, I am far less concerned about this thread than I was at 11 o’clock last night.

I am looking forward to watching Coach Joseph continue to man the helm of this program for the foreseeable future. 😎

19 minutes ago, pine curtain said:

what year did Etheridge leave and why did he leave?

Didnt he go to Pasadena or somewhere in that area?

Ethridge stuck with the Indians for ten years.

On 12/15/2023 at 2:54 PM, AggiesAreWe said:

On the Saban front, he did not start winning national championships until he got top talent to come to the school.

If he was the difference, then why didn't he win in the NFL where the talent was pretty much equal?

I give Saban a ton of credit for winning those championships. But you just can't insert him anywhere and think he will win championships there too. That's not being realistic.

Saban went 12-2 in his second season at Alabama almost entirely with recruits he inherited from Mike Shula. He won a national championship in his third season at Alabama with a quarterback Shula recruited and red-shirted.

Saban will tell you the reason he wasn’t successful at Miami was because of the mentality in the NFL. The players were older and not as coachable. Between that and the team owner, he felt like he was managing egos, not coaching a team. It’s why he was adamant with the Alabama boosters that he runs the program and nobody else from day one at Alabama. He accepted the offer from Mal Moore on that condition. He doesn’t think he would be successful anywhere in the NFL.

39 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

He’s made his name at this point.  if he goes to Katy (or literally anywhere else, for that matter) the talent will find it’s way to him, just like you’re suggesting would happen here if he stays at PNG.  Joseph and company definitely realize this at every level.  Maybe he loves it here and stays, and I hope he does,  but PNG isn’t offering any advantages that he can’t get in a bigger, more prestigious position.  The suggestion that he can pull in outside talent around here but not anywhere he chooses to go is wishful thinking.  

I think you’re misunderstanding my point. I’m not saying he wouldn’t have talent at Katy. I’m saying he wouldn’t have a monopoly on talent at Katy, and he would have difficulty achieving his father’s level of success without it.

We’re already seeing this. His father’s name has been established for decades. Gary Joseph has multiple state titles to his name. Where’s the more recent success been? Katy Paetow. Is Katy enjoying the success it used to have? No. Why? Because new high schools are popping up all over Katy ISD. The talent’s being siphoned away. Putting up mailboxes isn’t so easy when schools are being rezoned left and right and the kids are getting bussed across town every time a new bond passes or a new subdivision is built.

That’s not so in the Golden Triangle. Buy a home anywhere in PN-GISD, and there’s no question what school your kids are going to or what team they’re playing on. That makes the proposition all the more attractive, in a way I don’t think it ever really can be again in the Houston area.

One more note that I think is worth adding:

PN-G is the only program in SETX to make it past the fourth round the last two seasons. If I'm not mistaken, it's the only large school program in the area to do so since 2018. We have other programs in the area that I think are on the cusp (e.g., Memorial, Silsbee, Jasper, Newton, Hamshire-Fannett, and Lumberton) or have some potential if they can figure some things out (e.g., Nederland, WO-S, and maybe Vidor or LC-M), but for the moment, PN-G is the Golden Triangle's standard bearer in high school football.

There is potential for PN-G to enter a golden age akin to what WO-S was able to achieve under Dan Hooks and Cornell Thompson. If you're the parent of a Golden Triangle-area child with tons of athletic potential in a district where he either won't have the opportunity to start a la Roschon Johnson, or won't play for a successful program a la the Beaumont schools, what are the other area schools you're going to look at as a potential landing spot? Right now, PN-G should probably be at the top of that list. As previously mentioned, that won't be the case in Katy ISD with all the new schools opening.

In short, there is an opportunity available at PN-G that I don't think exists at very many other schools in the state. I think Joseph and company realize that at some level.

When even DCTF is defending the refs, you know South Dallas has no case to prosecute. It was a good call. PN-G won, fair and square.

1 hour ago, PhatMack19 said:

I don’t know if Katy will ever be “Katy” again with all the new schools opening.  

This. And I think both Coach Josephs know that.

But I also don't think the elder Coach Joseph is retiring any time soon.

1 hour ago, Coach_Izzy said:

People forget all the stuff that was talked about Kenny Harrison on here for years. Tell me what’s the main difference between his tenure in PA & Summer Creek? I’ll tell you TALENT! He’s been to the 3rd round 4 years in a row & now playing for a state title cause he has talent. 

I’ll say it again coaching DOES matter but not over talent. You could put Nick Saban at either BISD school & he wouldn’t win. Talent is the #1 ingredient for success, this is literally common sense. You’ve never seen a coach win anything without having talent.

This is the most ridiculous statement I've ever read on this site. And that's saying something.

Talent is a key ingredient for a successful football program. Having talent isn't important so much as being able to make the most of the talent you have. The best coaches are the ones who utilize their players' talent and abilities to their full potential. Coaches like Coach Todd and Coach Joseph are very good at developing the talent they have available to them. The proof is in the pudding; West Brook's talent level didn't magically evaporate when Coach Peevey left.

There is no coach anywhere in the sport more capable of maximizing his players' potential than Nick Saban. If he were coaching at West Brook or United, Beaumont wouldn't have enough trophy cabinets to fit all the accolades he'd bring home.

5 hours ago, PhatMack19 said:

Just an observation on the last 2 semi games.

 
Last year when the clock struck 0, the players went wild celebrating and rushed the field.  All that work and they achieved their goal to get to state.  
 

This year when Shea took the knee in victory formation, there were hugs and handshakes.  A lot more subdued and businesslike celebration.  They expected to win and expected to be back at state.  They have unfinished business to take care of. It may take a near perfect game to win, but I don’t doubt they can pull it off.  

I've noticed a similar change in the dynamic among the fans, too.

Y'all know I went to Alabama. At Alabama, there's immense social pressure to never rush the field or go overboard in response to a win. The crowds will get very involved at key moments in the game, but after the win, it's three rounds of "Rammer Jammer" and then we exit the stadium in an efficient and orderly fashion.

The general response an Alabama fan will give you if you ask about it is something along the lines of, we don't get overly excited about any one win because we always expect to win. Perfection, competing for a championship perennially and consistent, disciplined execution are the norm there. Whether it's an out-of-conference game or a national championship, winning is our business. We act like we've been there before because we have been there before, we're there now and we know we'll be back there again a bunch more in the future.

It's nice to see that culture shift take hold at PN-G.

38 minutes ago, Rez Ipsa said:

Parking was easy, traffic was normal Dallas , once you were in Dallas. Not too bad. 

Agree with this. One thing to keep in mind that’s different for this year, though. The parking lot doesn’t open until 9:30 AM. Kickoff is at 11 AM. Uncertain whether third party parking lots around the stadium will open earlier. The shuttle service or an rideshare service may be the way to go.

4 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:

Why haven’t they released their unsold tickets yet?  
 

Some said 10am today and some said they will only be available at the gate.  I doubt many will drive all that way without a ticket and hope to get one at the gate.  They are purposefully trying to keep people out.  

Correct.

Apparently one of the local doctors in LH bought 100 tickets to be given to fans for free, and they still haven’t gotten them all out. They know their fan turnout is about to get trounced on their own side of the field and they’re trying to mitigate the embarrassment.

At some level, I can respect that. But the lesson is clear: agree to a bigger stadium next time. Problem solved.

7 hours ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

You're assuming they have no intention of using them...that said I wouldn't put it past a PN-G fan to drive to Liberty Hill to buy tickets

Rez Ipsa’s version of events is the factually correct one.

That aside, there are a handful of people in PN-G shirts walking around Liberty Hill today.

😎

21 minutes ago, FearTheSpear said:

Who is bashing an individual player?  When a LH fan says a certain player is gonna hit PNG so hard the fans are gonna feel it,  you can bet I’m gonna say something.  I hope our boys have more fight tomorrow than some on here appear to have 🤷🏻‍♂️

The discussion about the player's size started long before that post was made.

Y'all move on to another topic.

Alright folks, forum rules prohibit bashing an individual player. The commentary about Liberty Hill's nose tackle is getting excessive.

You have to respect the heart and dedication of any kid that size who finds a way to play a position like that well. PN-G fans in particular should know that; many, many times, the Indians have overcome size and athleticism disadvantages to win games they weren't expected to win.

Let's move on to another subject.

"currently not working" 😂😂😂😂

We're definitely in their heads. 😎

54 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

As of 11:00AM the game is SOLD OUT

Cy-Fair has reshuffled the Indian Band and Indianettes to allow for 500 more tickets on the PN-G side. It was just announced by NDN Press. Not sure the website has been updated to account for it yet, though.

2 hours ago, Rez Ipsa said:

I’m not suggesting any wrongdoing. I made no allegations of bad behavior, illegal or otherwise. I understand that there were bigger stadiums proposed and he absolutely refused to select a larger one. That’s a deliberate choice - He’s still an honorable man, a good citizen, etc, and I’ve said nothing to challenge that. But, he still chose to purposely exclude fans from the game, and that’s a deliberate and unnecessary action that defies the point and purpose of high school sports, and I disagree with it as petty gamesmanship. It’s not an attack on his character. 

This is correct.

Liberty Hill’s history in that stadium may be a factor, but limiting the PN-G turnout was clearly the primary concern.

I don’t blame the man for trying to put his team on the best footing possible. PN-G crowds are a factor in the game. We all know that. I respect his motivation.

But as PN-G fans, we can’t allow this kind of behavior to persist. The lesson has to be learned. You play this game with us, and we’ll teach you how it’s played.

21 minutes ago, FrodoNDN said:

Just watched the Crosby LH game and LH had passes for long touchdowns. Look like they pulled it off pretty well.

I seem to recall LH trying to pass the ball late in the game last year when the score was getting out of hand. I also seem to recall PN-G being ready for it.

3 hours ago, Slot-T Shenanigans said:

I don't know of anyone from LH that walked out of the stadium last year believing the outcome would have been significantly different if Noah Long and Joe Pitchford weren't injured. PNG out played us, out coached us and the fans out spirited us.   Hell, even the band was better. 

LH has already overachieved many fan's expectations this year.  Our offensive production is down this year and our pass defense is actually worse than last year.  What this team lacks in size, elusive speed and elite talent, we make up for in heart and relentless tenacity (at times).  Many LH fans want to move away from the Slot-T but I believe this scheme is the primary reason why we consistently make deep runs into the playoffs.  

Keep an eye on the 165lb Noseguard (#44) because he is fun to watch.  That kid has a motor like no other and MAY get home a couple times if the O-line gets caught sleepin'.  

Good luck PNG fans!  I hope the game is competitive, injury free and everyone leaves it all out there on the field.  Regardless of the outcome, I'll be in Arlington next week watching a full day of football with my son who will hopefully be playing in this game next year!

Classy post. +1

Welcome to the site!

1 minute ago, NDNmom91 said:

Well, a part of me feels bad cause a lot of LH fans very likely won’t get tickets BUT that’s on THEIR COACH for not agreeing to a bigger stadium!  

That's exactly right.

13 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

PN-G side is officially SOLD OUT

That is correct, and it's the fastest I've ever seen PN-G sell out its ticket allotment. I don't even think we sold out Livingston's tiny visitor's side that quickly back in the day.

PN-G fans and friends: now is the time to start buying up the Liberty Hill side. 

Tickets for the PN-G side:

Tickets for the Liberty Hill side (PN-G fans, be sure the PN-G side is sold out before buying):

22 hours ago, LHFan80 said:

I have watched most of LH games on NFHS which has had to many technical difficulties . I switched to a Pieper free stream on YouTube tv which was better in my opinion than NFHS . 

Will there be a PNG live stream this week ?  I don't mind watching an opponents live stream thats  better than watching a frozen screen on my paid app . 

Provided Bally doesn't televise the game, the PN-G high school journalism team (look up NDN Press on Facebook or YouTube) will stream the game with commentary. The kids are really good, and we've had strong viewership this year. The livestream topped out over 7,000 last week.