The Save Act

[baddog]

 

[Porter]

And the weak Republicans are having a hard time getting this passed with so much support on both sides. This is a no brainer piece of legislation.
 

The Republican Party is Unserious.

Fix our elections or nothing changes. 

[Reagan]

6 minutes ago, Porter said:

And the weak Republicans are having a hard time getting this passed with so much support on both sides. This is a no brainer piece of legislation.
 

The Republican Party is Unserious.

Fix our elections or nothing changes. 

The SAVE act is being filibustered by the Demoncrats.  All the Republicans have to do is make a continuous talking filibuster.  This would end it fairly quickly.  Why the Republicans chose not to do this is beyond me.  

[Porter]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

The SAVE act is being filibustered by the Demoncrats.  All the Republicans have to do is make a continuous talking filibuster.  This would end it fairly quickly.  Why the Republicans chose not to do this is beyond me.  

Like I said Republicans are weak and feckless.

But I am sure someone will come up with some weak convoluted reason why it hasn’t passed yet. 

[Reagan]

 

True dat!

[Porter]

 

[UT alum]

On 3/14/2026 at 11:12 AM, Porter said:

Like I said Republicans are weak and feckless.

But I am sure someone will come up with some weak convoluted reason why it hasn’t passed yet. 

Because it is voter suppression, not election security. Even enough Senate republicans to keep it off the floor know that.

[Porter]

2 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Because it is voter suppression, not election security. Even enough Senate republicans to keep it off the floor know that.

Please explain how it’s voter suppression? Lol

[UT alum]

4 hours ago, Porter said:

Please explain how it’s voter suppression? Lol

Requiring a passport? That is an unreasonable barrier to registration.

[Reagan]

46 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Requiring a passport? That is an unreasonable barrier to registration.

The SAVE act does not require a passport specifically, but it would require documentary proof of citizenship. 

[UT alum]

11 hours ago, Reagan said:

The SAVE act does not require a passport specifically, but it would require documentary proof of citizenship. 

Everyone is being assumed guilty and must prove otherwise. Real American values.

[baddog]

We have to provide ID all of the time. It doesn’t mean we are guilty of anything. I can see how that could be misconstrued though…..????

[Reagan]

29 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Everyone is being assumed guilty and must prove otherwise. Real American values.

I don't believe you believe what you just said.  One has to provide ID for the most mundane stuff.  So, as important as who leads our nation this should not be an issue!  

[UT alum]

26 minutes ago, Reagan said:

I don't believe you believe what you just said.  One has to provide ID for the most mundane stuff.  So, as important as who leads our nation this should not be an issue!  

 Voting is a constitutional right. Buying alcohol and driving a car are not. Taking out a loan is not. If I am who I say I am, the state should take my word. I need to show proof of residence to place me in the proper voting precinct. If I lie about who I am that makes me a criminal. I am not to be assumed a liar. This is all a ruse to erode trust in our institutions and each other. A hallmark of autocratic take over. Your grandchildren will curse you for supporting the criminalization of America.

[baddog]

Show me where it is a constitutional right to vote by non citizens. You can’t.

[thetragichippy]

39 minutes ago, UT alum said:

 Voting is a constitutional right. Buying alcohol and driving a car are not. Taking out a loan is not. If I am who I say I am, the state should take my word. I need to show proof of residence to place me in the proper voting precinct. If I lie about who I am that makes me a criminal. I am not to be assumed a liar. This is all a ruse to erode trust in our institutions and each other. A hallmark of autocratic take over. Your grandchildren will curse you for supporting the criminalization of America.

What law is being broken if Congress passes the Safe Act? I would like more information on it.

Why do 71-75 percent of voters support voter id? 

[Porter]

3 hours ago, UT alum said:

Everyone is being assumed guilty and must prove otherwise. Real American values.

Now you’re just talking nonsense and jibberish. I am not too pleased with this administration at the moment but I am convinced Democrats are incapable of winning fair elections. 
 

[TheMissingBand]

There’s a big difference between voter ID and proof of citizenship. 
 

I think that a person should be required to provide a photo ID when they show up to vote. I do not believe that it is a barrier to voting. 
 

But that’s not what we’re talking about. We’re talking about the SAVE Act requiring proof of citizenship before a person can register to vote-and a state issued ID won’t cut it. You’ll need a birth certificate that matches your name or a passport, etc… The argument is that a married person’s birth certificate won’t match their name, so they’ll also need proof of their marriage(s) and divorces to prove that the person named on the ID is the same one that’s listed on the birth certificate. Not a problem for me, but a problem for women. 
 

Women who typically vote Democrat. Just a name change? You’ll need copies of that documentation to accompany your birth certificate if they don’t match. A passport will suffice if you have one. Who doesn’t have passports? Poor people. And how do impoverished people typically vote? Democrat. 
 

Are you sensing a pattern? My opinion is that Trump is trying his best to suppress the votes of likely D voters. In the absence of his new SAFE Act, he’ll use the supposed lack of safeguards as the reason that the feds will have to cancel (unlikely) or invalidate areas where he suspects “fraud.”  Think no further than his proclamation that “democrats can’t win unless they cheat.”  He believes it, too.  On the heels of an election that was safe and fair (because he won), and suddenly it’s going to be “cheating” if he loses the next one.  It’s a toddler ish way of thinking. 

[HangPDFs]

Did we need our birth certificate to even get a DL in Texas? Honest question, I can’t remember its been so long 

Anyways.. let’s make the criteria to be active US passport. That’s not voter suppression since everyone has one readily available, right 

 

[thetragichippy]

20 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

The argument is that a married person’s birth certificate won’t match their name, so they’ll also need proof of their marriage(s) and divorces to prove that the person named on the ID is the same one that’s listed on the birth certificate. Not a problem for me, but a problem for women. 

Personally I don't think you need to speak for women. 

I work at a bank where names on DL's have to match account name. In my 23 years of banking, I have never had a woman complain they needed their divorce decree to change their name.....either to their married name or back to their maiden name.

Why do you think poor people are dumb?

 

[UT alum]

1 hour ago, Porter said:

Now you’re just talking nonsense and jibberish. I am not too pleased with this administration at the moment but I am convinced Democrats are incapable of winning fair elections. 
 

You ever work a poll?

[baddog]

Is there anyone on here who has ever had a problem voting due to ID verification? That’s what I thought. So it’s been this way for years, now it’s a problem. Why? Can you still vote? Why the concern for anyone else? Have they had trouble voting? Nope. Some of you like to argue a stupid point when it really has no effect on anyone. You’ve always been selfish and never cared for anyone before now, why mess with your record? If you care about illegals voting then you’re not an American….plain and simple.

[Porter]

9 minutes ago, UT alum said:

You ever work a poll?

Working a poll has nothing to do with Americans wanting legal citizens to show proof that they are eligible to vote. You are making this way more complicated than it should be. 

[TheMissingBand]

9 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Personally I don't think you need to speak for women. 

I work at a bank where names on DL's have to match account name. In my 23 years of banking, I have never had a woman complain they needed their divorce decree to change their name.....either to their married name or back to their maiden name.

Why do you think poor people are dumb?

 

At your bank, do they require you to prove that you were born in the US or a naturalized citizen? Nope, you need a couple of forms of photo ID.  Does the bank require customers to produce their birth certificate? I didn’t think so.  And I can speak for women when I say that it requires a court order (usually a divorce) to change their name after having it changed initially by a marriage license.  The problem is that in addition to having to find or get a copy of a birth certificate to prove citizenship, they’d also have to prove that they (with new name) are the same person named on the birth certificate since the name doesn’t match the dl.

 

Nobody is saying poor people are dumb, just they they don’t do a lot of international travel, which likely means that they have one fewer means of identifying themselves… unless they’ve got the $175 and six weeks it takes to get a passport. 
 

There’s a huge difference between saying “you need to show your id to vote” and “you need to prove citizenship in order to register to vote.”  It creates barriers to keep people who can legally vote from voting in the future. Kinda like a poll tax.  

[OlDawg]

Anyone who has had to get a new Driver's License in the last few years had to show a birth certificate, social security card, and/or a passport. You had to have proof of citizenship to get a new license with Real ID. A married person who changed their name just needs to also show their marriage certificate.

Since--as I understand it--the States will still set the rules for acceptable citizenship verification, any Texas resident with a driver's license after 2016 should be in the Real ID system in Texas verifying their citizenship. Maybe, Texas will allow that to suffice. I haven't heard a definitive one way or the other yet since the Act hasn't even passed.