Some Get Pardoned, Some Get Killed

[UT alum]

11 hours ago, Reagan said:

 

In case you needed more clarity!  The Washington Post has just been caught red-handed SLANDERING Pete Hegseth and Admiral Bradley by claiming they ordered survivors be killed after a narco-strike. The NYT has 100% DEBUNKED the WaPo report now.

Two pillars of “mainstream media” and fake news? They’re either reliable or not. Why do you quote or believe either one?

[baddog]

16 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Yes, it matters. As for your un-American charge against me, gth.

What does GTH mean? 

[OlDawg]

Without getting into specific details, I’ll just remind folks that SpecOps operate under different ROE’s than conventional military units.

Yes. They still operate under international laws and rules of combat while in uniform, or under the flag of the U.S. But, rules are vastly more flexible.

Typically, a USN vessel assisting in deterring criminal activity will replace their fleet flags with a Coast Guard flag, and thus—technically—be under CG control with the legal protections offered. It can be debated if designating a group a terrorist organization makes them a military or criminal target.

I don’t have details on the attack in September. If true SpecOps, much of what you’re hearing from the chattering class is inaccurate/incomplete due to their lack of knowledge of the incident, and in the different ROE’s.

Rest assured, when uniformed DOD personnel are involved, JAG is also involved at every level in the chain. They are the experts in military law. Not civilian lawyers, pundits, or politicians.

If Congress wants to change something, they need to pass a resolution of some sort defining when/how POTUS can use force. History has shown—all the way back to Jefferson and the Barbary pirates—that POTUS has the authority to defend the U.S. and it’s interests with military force. ‘Defending the U.S.’ is the gray area in this case just as it was with many previous Presidents, including Obama and Libya, and Biden and the Houthis.

Finally, I’d be especially concerned how leaks from military operations were still occurring.

 

[bullets13]

16 hours ago, UT alum said:

1 1/2 pounds is low level. 400 tons is cartel level. Think what you want. Trump’s really bad.

anything above selling a little bud is not low level. 

[Reagan]

4 hours ago, UT alum said:

Two pillars of “mainstream media” and fake news? They’re either reliable or not. Why do you quote or believe either one?

"The NYT has 100% DEBUNKED the WaPo"!  It quoted your Bible for the news the New York Times debunking your other Bible for news the Washington Post's lie!  So -- which one is fake news?  

[Big girl]

On 12/2/2025 at 9:09 AM, thetragichippy said:

Perhaps you should research the "why" behind it and not just read headlines......

I don't recall you upset or posting about Bidens 2500 drug related pardons, or his 4245 acts of clemency.....the most of ANY President, and he only served one term......he also pardon 6 folks who was convicted of Murder......

When you look at comparisons, your outrage makes ZERO sense.....

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Minor drug offenses. I dont recall him pardoning drug lords.

[Big girl]

2 hours ago, OlDawg said:

Without getting into specific details, I’ll just remind folks that SpecOps operate under different ROE’s than conventional military units.

Yes. They still operate under international laws and rules of combat while in uniform, or under the flag of the U.S. But, rules are vastly more flexible.

Typically, a USN vessel assisting in deterring criminal activity will replace their fleet flags with a Coast Guard flag, and thus—technically—be under CG control with the legal protections offered. It can be debated if designating a group a terrorist organization makes them a military or criminal target.

I don’t have details on the attack in September. If true SpecOps, much of what you’re hearing from the chattering class is inaccurate/incomplete due to their lack of knowledge of the incident, and in the different ROE’s.

Rest assured, when uniformed DOD personnel are involved, JAG is also involved at every level in the chain. They are the experts in military law. Not civilian lawyers, pundits, or politicians.

If Congress wants to change something, they need to pass a resolution of some sort defining when/how POTUS can use force. History has shown—all the way back to Jefferson and the Barbary pirates—that POTUS has the authority to defend the U.S. and it’s interests with military force. ‘Defending the U.S.’ is the gray area in this case just as it was with many previous Presidents, including Obama and Libya, and Biden and the Houthis.

Finally, I’d be especially concerned how leaks from military operations were still occurring.

 

I heard a JAG lawyer say that the strikes were illegal

 

[OlDawg]

8 minutes ago, Big girl said:

I heard a JAG lawyer say that the strikes were illegal

 

lol 

An active JAG wouldn’t make that comment, which means they are no more than someone else with an agenda.

You really do get suckered in, don’t you?

[bullets13]

44 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Minor drug offenses. I dont recall him pardoning drug lords.

if someone shoots you in the leg tomorrow will that be considered a "minor shooting"?

[LumRaiderFan]

48 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Minor drug offenses. I dont recall him pardoning drug lords.

Probably because you weren’t interested since it was a democrat.

[thetragichippy]

9 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

if someone shoots you in the leg tomorrow will that be considered a "minor shooting"?

Best comment in months!!

[tvc184]

On 12/2/2025 at 8:51 AM, Big girl said:

He disgusts me.

Wow!

Consider me shocked!!

🤣🤣🤣

[baddog]

Trump is killing drug smugglers while Obama killed civilians and American hostages with drone strikes. He did apologize. Where’s the outrage?

[thetragichippy]

8 hours ago, OlDawg said:

Without getting into specific details, I’ll just remind folks that SpecOps operate under different ROE’s than conventional military units.

Yes. They still operate under international laws and rules of combat while in uniform, or under the flag of the U.S. But, rules are vastly more flexible.

Typically, a USN vessel assisting in deterring criminal activity will replace their fleet flags with a Coast Guard flag, and thus—technically—be under CG control with the legal protections offered. It can be debated if designating a group a terrorist organization makes them a military or criminal target.

I don’t have details on the attack in September. If true SpecOps, much of what you’re hearing from the chattering class is inaccurate/incomplete due to their lack of knowledge of the incident, and in the different ROE’s.

Rest assured, when uniformed DOD personnel are involved, JAG is also involved at every level in the chain. They are the experts in military law. Not civilian lawyers, pundits, or politicians.

If Congress wants to change something, they need to pass a resolution of some sort defining when/how POTUS can use force. History has shown—all the way back to Jefferson and the Barbary pirates—that POTUS has the authority to defend the U.S. and it’s interests with military force. ‘Defending the U.S.’ is the gray area in this case just as it was with many previous Presidents, including Obama and Libya, and Biden and the Houthis.

Finally, I’d be especially concerned how leaks from military operations were still occurring.

 

I believe I read that striking the boats was discussed with the DOJ and they claimed it was legal. I don’t think another administration would have much luck trying to prosecute someone for something that was deemed legal when it happened…..anyone?

That really don’t matter, because Trump can do the same thing Biden did and give pardons to anyone involved. 

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

I believe I read that striking the boats was discussed with the DOJ and they claimed it was legal. I don’t think another administration would have much luck trying to prosecute someone for something that was deemed legal when it happened…..anyone?

That really don’t matter, because Trump can do the same thing Biden did and give pardons to anyone involved. 

The JAG in charge of directly advising would have given their opinion, their opinion would then go up the chain. Many missions of this type (in the past) would eventually wind their way to direct consultation with DOJ, as they work hand-in-hand on key SpecOp activities. If DOJ isn’t involved, the activity is typically ‘off book’, and the operators won’t be uniformed, direct associate DOD personnel.

Yes on the pardon statement.

[Big girl]

On 12/2/2025 at 2:09 PM, thetragichippy said:

The good comes out of knowing they why....Unlike Biden, if you just listen to Trump at his almost daily conferences, he explains why he did it.....and Trump didn't pick this guy that UT is upset about, it was brought to him and he agreed to the pardon. 

He said he didn't know anything about it. He must have been napping when it happened. He seems to be falling asleep during meetings as of late

[Big girl]

18 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Probably because you weren’t interested since it was a democrat.

Hell, you were outraged when Biden released people who had minor drug charges. Why are you not outraged now?

[UT alum]

20 hours ago, bullets13 said:

anything above selling a little bud is not low level. 

Says who?

[UT alum]

18 hours ago, bullets13 said:

if someone shoots you in the leg tomorrow will that be considered a "minor shooting"?

On the scale of shootings? Assault with a deadly weapon is minor compared to capital offense murder. What’s your point?

[Big girl]

41 minutes ago, UT alum said:

On the scale of shootings? Assault with a deadly weapon is minor compared to capital offense murder. What’s your point?

Here is what Biden considered minor drug charges

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President Joe Biden on Thursday granted a pardon to all people convicted of simple marijuana possession under federal law, in what amounts to the most extensive White House action taken to date on U.S. drug policy.

The president also urged governors to take similar action for state offenses of civil possession of marijuana

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

Hell, you were outraged when Biden released people who had minor drug charges. Why are you not outraged now?

Show me the post where I was outraged.

You and your cronies are the only ones with fake outrage, and it’s all because of Trump.

It’s entertaining, lol.