Tarkington (0) @ Jasper (57) - FINAL

[CDub86]

8 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Would be beneficial for them to drop down to 3A. 

I agree but we also played some 3A teams with the same result.

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

On 11/8/2025 at 7:59 PM, AggiesAreWe said:

Crumedy is now 22-24 in his 4 years as HC at Jasper.

First off, we ALL know the overall. talent/skill level for Jasper has been below the DAWG'S let's say average  the past couple season so that hasnt helped.

Also since Crumedy took over scheduling the cake walk preseason they had grown accustomed to under Barbay's tenure went away and they have had if not the toughest schedule one of the toughest for sure in SouthEast Texas. 

In that 22-24 record includes something that Barbay couldn't do in 10 seasons as Jasper headboard. That is play a fourth round of playoffs game.  Barbay had title game talent on 2 teams for certain. 2013 and 2018, but still no 4th round.  So since you have made a point thru out the season to bring his record at Jasper. I am here to remind you and everyone else he has actually done more with less so far than the previous head coach before him.

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

I apologize folks for not mentioning what else Crumedy has done in 4 years. Helped more players move on to college(twice according to DCTF has developed players into the 1 recruit in the state at their postion). More so than Barbay did in 10 years.

[AggiesAreWe]

All good points.

Crumedy's district record is 12-10 in his four years,

Playoff record is 3-3. All three of those wins were when they advanced to 4th round in 2023. Had 1st round losses in 2022 and 2024. Missed playoffs this year. So one could say he caught lightning in a bottle in 2023. Other three years, not so much.

I agree, talent level has dropped some but not so much that they should miss the playoffs when 4 teams advance from a 6 team district.

As for player development, Smith was a junior in Crumedy's first year and was already high on lot's of folks recruiting radar.

What about his AD success?

Barbay may not have been an all time great at Jasper, but never has Jasper overall athletic department been this bad in his tenure.

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

All good points.

Crumedy's district record is 12-10 in his four years,

Playoff record is 3-3. All three of those wins were when they advanced to 4th round in 2023. Had 1st round losses in 2022 and 2024. Missed playoffs this year. So one could say he caught lightning in a bottle in 2023. Other three years, not so much.

I agree, talent level has dropped some but not so much that they should miss the playoffs when 4 teams advance from a 6 team district.

As for player development, Smith was a junior in Crumedy's first year and was already high on lot's of folks recruiting radar.

What about his AD success?

Barbay may not have been an all time great at Jasper, but never has Jasper overall athletic department been this bad in his tenure.

You said what I said, just longer winded. You must be trying to let other people may be know something. There is nothing you can inform me of  personally about Jasper athletics. BARBAY  could not catch lighting in a decade?  Wtfe!

Never have kids for the most part had such "not interested " attitudes. Look at Jasper Band never in my life did I think it would dwindle down like it has. As far no playoffs you right with 4 teams going never should we not make playoffs. (In football )When I watched Shepherd handle the DAWGS that night not only did it sicken  me but proved the overall skill level is way below.  There are teams that should be beat  by Jasper just because of talent regardless who is coaching. 

As far as Ty' Anthony goes he  is a naturally gifted athlete & generational talent. So really He needed no help moving forward after highschool. Coaches are a substantial part in those young men's lives and not only me but all of Jasper watched countless players under Barbay get very little help with going somewhere/anywhere after highscool.  Again Barbay in ten years(and the talent was there  for sure 2 of those) couldn't get passed 3rd round. 

[Tiger33]

Barbay didn’t have shabby numbers first 3 years at Jasper 26-11 career at Jasper 86-32. By glancing at the numbers he’s the 2nd winningest coach there. 

[AggiesAreWe]

32 minutes ago, Tiger33 said:

Barbay didn’t have shabby numbers first 3 years at Jasper 26-11 career at Jasper 86-32. By glancing at the numbers he’s the 2nd winningest coach there. 

I was never much of a Barbay fan but his numbers aren't bad at all.

These are his official records at Jasper:

87-34 overall (.719)

40-6 in district play (.869) (4 district championships)

14-10 playoff record (.583)

 

His first 4 seasons at Jasper:

33-17 overall  (.660)

16-4 district record  (.800)

6-4 playoff record   (.600)

 

He made the playoffs all 10 seasons. His worst record was 6-5 (his last season). Lost only 6 district games in 10 years.

[Tiger33]

25 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I was never much of a Barbay fan but his numbers aren't bad at all.

These are his official records at Jasper:

87-34 overall (.719)

40-6 in district play (.869) (4 district championships)

14-10 playoff record (.583)

 

His first 4 seasons at Jasper:

33-17 overall  (.660)

16-4 district record  (.800)

6-4 playoff record   (.600)

 

He made the playoffs all 10 seasons. His worst record was 6-5 (his last season). Lost only 6 district games in 10 years.

I guess Texas history isn’t accurate. But no his numbers wasn’t bad 

[Bulldogs92]

3 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I was never much of a Barbay fan but his numbers aren't bad at all.

These are his official records at Jasper:

87-34 overall (.719)

40-6 in district play (.869) (4 district championships)

14-10 playoff record (.583)

 

His first 4 seasons at Jasper:

33-17 overall  (.660)

16-4 district record  (.800)

6-4 playoff record   (.600)

 

He made the playoffs all 10 seasons. His worst record was 6-5 (his last season). Lost only 6 district games in 10 years.

We were blessed to have him for ten years and he got Mansfield (LA) into the playoffs this year for the first time in forever. He's a really good coach. Sure, they should have gone farther in the playoffs a few times, but injuries derailed those runs. 

Coach Crumedy has had a lot work against him (talent level being the biggest), but our athletic program doesn't win much outside of track and soccer. I've heard that there's better talent coming in the football program, so there's that. It's just a question of whether Kendrick will be there to coach them. He's a good man and a good coach, so I really hope he can have success there soon and be able to stay until he chooses to leave. It just doesn't always work that way.

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

Putting two names out there as "players to watch" Qb Beatty and Rb DJ Clark

If we can put together an o line that's just average Bearty can drop dimes all day!  And Clark for a freshman on varsity played really well.

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

4 hours ago, Tiger33 said:

Barbay didn’t have shabby numbers first 3 years at Jasper 26-11 career at Jasper 86-32. By glancing at the numbers he’s the 2nd winningest coach there. 

And the big reason for that is the talent he was fortunate to coach.

[Reagan]

33 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

And the big reason for that is the talent he was fortunate to coach.

Or -- he was able to cultivate the personnel he had.  Like maybe this coach can't!  

[89Falcon]

13 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Or -- he was able to cultivate the personnel he had.  Like maybe this coach can't!  

The current personnel are the worst seen in several decades. They were that way before the current coach arrived and everyone knew this would happen.

FYI, when the current freshman arrive on varsity, Jasper will be good again regardless of who the coach is at the time.

[Reagan]

13 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

The current personnel are the worst seen in several decades. They were that way before the current coach arrived and everyone knew this would happen.

FYI, when the current freshman arrive on varsity, Jasper will be good again regardless of who the coach is at the time.

Feel free to blame the kids all you want.  I personally stay away from that!

[89Falcon]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Feel free to blame the kids all you want.  I personally stay away from that!

Good for you. Win/loss in sports is directly proportional to talent. 
 

Check out Tarkington when you get a chance.

[Reagan]

26 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Good for you. Win/loss in sports is directly proportional to talent. coaching
 

Check out Tarkington when you get a chance.

Always blaming the kids won't win you friends and influence people.  Tarkington just hasn't got the right coach yet.  Will they?  Maybe -- maybe not.  

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Or -- he was able to cultivate the personnel he had.  Like maybe this coach can't!  

No sir that isn't the case. Especially in 2013& 2018. The record overall for 2013 team is mis leading. The beginning of season had some bad losses. Toward the end of season they had collectively found themselves was clicking.  I am not saying win it all clicking at least title game appearance. We lost in the 3rd round to the blue&silver in beaumont on last minute of the game td pass.

[Reagan]

6 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

No sir that isn't the case. Especially in 2013& 2018. The record overall for 2013 team is mis leading. The beginning of season had some bad losses. Toward the end of season they had collectively found themselves was clicking.  I am not saying win it all clicking at least title game appearance. We lost in the 3rd round to the blue&silver in beaumont on last minute of the game td pass.

The first two years of the present coach was playing off the residual of the previous coach.  The 3rd year and this year was all on this coach.  The same situation happened with the former Nederland coach.

[CDub86]

23 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Good for you. Win/loss in sports is directly proportional to talent. 
 

Check out Tarkington when you get a chance.

Definitely a good point, being a closed district we have to play the kids we have. That being said we weren’t devoid of talent completely. Good coaches that care and aren’t just cashing a check should know how to get the most out of the players they have.

The team we had this year was undisciplined, not in football shape and that is a direct correlation to coaching no matter the talent level.

Been in this area all my life, graduated from Shepherd and have seen my fair share of crappy teams and coaches. Will say the one we’ve fielded In Tarkington the past few years takes the cake.

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

Skill level is not. That why we had so many underclassmen playing varsity. If residual that one or two seasons why he able to farther then previous coach ever did?

Man if you had seen how Shepherd plain out handled Jasper a couple weeks ago f****ing Shepherd (One of teams should always beat just because they out talent them  regardless who is coaching instead they had first loss ever in football to Shepherd) it would be much more clear about talent level.