Cu Chulainn
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On 1/20/2024 at 8:38 AM, Bobcat1 said:
Broke 1,000 career points last night against Kirbyville!
Great young man and teammate! Everyone is super proud for Zane and his family! It's a real honor to join his brother Peyton Wrinkle on that 1,000 Point List!
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1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said:
Sometimes. Of the turnovers, some were of the dead ball kind and not live ball turnovers. Kountze would have to inbound the ball which allowed Orangefield to get back on defense.
Fair enough, I'm just saying that collectively as a team it was the best effort that I have seen from them on D all season. Especially with a deep high powered team like Kountze. We look forward to the rematch at home on Feb 9th.
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4 hours ago, Unbelievableee said:
Yeah that was OF chance to beat them last night. The Scales kid can BALL. Very impressed with him. But they have got to get more help from their supporting cast.
Kountze by 25 next game
Thank you very much for saying that sir!
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20 hours ago, Bobcat1 said:
How or why is Kountze not taking advantage of 27 turnovers - That's crazy!
When mistakes were made they hustled to get back on D. Bobcats understood their assignment, just came up a little short.
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17 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:
Final stats
Score by quarters
1 2 3 4 F
OF 12 6 13 15 46
Kountze 16 9 9 21 55
FT
OF 4/8 50%
Kountze 16/24 66% (went 12/14 down the stretch and made last 8 FT)
3 Point
OF 6/20 33%
Kountze 3/20 15%
Rebounds
OF 30
Kountze 30
Turnovers
OF 28
Kountze 13
Fouls
OF 14
Kountze 10
I don't have the shooting percentages from the field for both teams but I would guess neither team shot better than 30% overall.
You can look at this game two ways. If Orangefield cuts down on turnovers they have a real good shot at winning this game. But, if Kountze would have converted on those turnovers by shooting the ball better, they probably win this game by 20+.
We appreciate you being there and the coverage of the game. I agree, either scenario could have taken place. Hats off to both teams for executing good game plans that made it difficult on each other and the battle it was supposed to be. In Orangefield's case our big 2 in Scales and Wrinkle did what they do and their percentages backed up who we all think they are. They just needed to take care of the ball better and get more help from other role players in the big games. We all look forward to running it back in Orangefield next time and hope officiating will be better as well.
Sells, Donald, Wrinkle & Scales all crossed each other out. It came down to the supporting cast and who was more big game ready. We believe in our boys as a team and that they will figure it out. I look forward to the next game being even better!
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ORANGEFIELD @ KOUNTZE RESCHEDULED FOR THIS WEDNESDAY JANUARY 17TH.
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10 hours ago, Coach 01 said:
I think both teams have been thinking about this game for a while now. The top 2 teams in the district, both undefeated, two great coaches, two great guards. This is going to be a great game! I’ll take Kountze by 11
We really appreciate the kind words and the fair assessment. There is no denying Kountze is deeper than we are, but our Cardia Cats have a special unselfish bond that makes us all believe. Myself and my son totally believe in his teammates and their ability to pull together as brothers and support each other. Going to be a lot of fun to see so much talent executing their coaches game plans for sure!.
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55 minutes ago, BBfan061 said:
Saw where Kountze is having school tomorrow.. is Orangefield?
Yes, as of 4:40 this afternoon Orangefield school was still scheduled.. There could be more alerts through the night though.
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8 hours ago, Coach 01 said:
From understanding, from other sports with similar schedules, It would need to be scheduled on the first available date that isn’t already having a game played. But yes, you can plan an extra game under those circumstances
Thank you sir!
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9 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:
UIL can issue a waiver in the case of weather. Would allow another game during the week if the DEC needed it.
Thank you sir!
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4 hours ago, Coach 01 said:
I’m hoping the weather doesn’t move this game.
Any idea how that will work if they do push it out due to weather? Can we play an extra game during the week to make it up or would we play again at the end of District? I'm not sure about UIL Rules on this one.
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3 hours ago, CowboyJeffR said:
Technical was on Scales for saying something I think. But it could have been a delay tech since they received a warning for it previously. I wasn’t paying enough attention to know if it had anything to do with the ball after the take foul on Manning.
Yes, Im told Scales got the tech for saying "they have to go for the ball when fouling". The player had grabbed Smith from behind to foul, so he felt he needed to address it. We are still working on that, lol. I am on nights and wasn't able to be there, but I was told this directly.
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8 hours ago, TxHoops said:
Kountze’s depth along with the defense they play will cause 95 percent of teams serious problems. It’s the 5 percent that have elite guards where it falls apart because it leads to easy buckets on the other end. Then the question becomes how good is your half court defense? As often as not, it’s relatively weak due to reliance on the press. This is why relatively few teams do this at the next level and the ones that do, use it to eat shot clock vs causing turnovers
Having said all that, Kountze could win every game by 20+ until they play a Hitchcock and then they could get beat by 20+ if they are unable to adjust. In terms of Orangefield, Scales is probably the best ball handler I’ve seen there in the almost 30 years I’ve been following (and only a sophomore). This will definitely be the most interesting matchup of the district imo
Thank you very much for saying that sir! It means a ton!
- TxHoops and TrojanMoJo
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7 hours ago, BBfan061 said:
Kountze’s 4 losses
5A La Porte 57-64, 56-59
3A #5 MP Chapel Hill 65-69, 73-81
Orangefield’s 3 losses
4A Vidor 55-61
3A #12 Palestine Westwood 35-49
4A #22 Tyler Chapel Hill 40-66
Common Teams played
Kountze. Orangefield
Splendora W 81-38 W 48-40
Hardin W 100-21 W 79-28
Warren W 77-46 W 70-23
EC W 72-23 W 53-46
I appreciate you sharing the numbers. Interesting stuff for sure. I can tell you in our blowouts, Scales and Wrinkle both set most of the 2nd half, and by most I mean at least a quarter in a half out each. Im not sure how Kountze runs it but Kountze is deeper and going to their bench probably isnt as much of a drop off as we see in OF. There have been several games where we could have gotten 100, but we back off the gas and let the bench have fun.
Sometimes the numbers can be misleading though. Last year, we lost to EC by 16 and 18 (if I'm not mistaken), Kountze split with EC in very close games but none the less beat them once. Oddly enough, we beat Kountze pretty decisively both times we played them. I guess that is why it is called a sport, and on any given night, anything can happen.
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1 minute ago, Coach 01 said:
Coach Whitmire has had alot of success against Coach Joubert in the past 7-8 years. It’s going to be a lot of fun watching what these two have planned. Two talented teams, and two very good coaches. It should be a lot of fun.
Totally agree, Coach Whitmire is great and we are glad to have him. Joubert's resume speaks for itself as well. I think Tuuesday will be a lot of fun as well!
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11 hours ago, KHSAlum400 said:
No it won't. Look at Orangefield's strength of schedule compared to Kountze's.
I understand man, but I didnt pick our schedule. We travel the country all offseason trying to play the best so Ghost can keep getting those matchups. I wish all the games were the tough ones in high school as well, but that just isnt how high school sports work. Like I said, if both teams show up the way I know they can, then it will be an all out war. If the Bobcats dont show up and execute a very good game plan form tip off it will show very quickly. Nothing worth having ever comes easy and that is what makes it fun! I hope Tuesday night is all its cracked up to be!
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10 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:
I do agree that Kountze has played the much tougher schedule.
Those losses to Westwood and Tyler Chapel Hill kind of stick out to me in regards to Orangefield.
But, that's why we play the games.
I certainly will be there Tuesday night.
To me Orangefield's biggest issue when we play elite caliber teams is the fact that they face guard Scales and the others try to play 4 on 4 rather than finding ways to keep our best scorer involved. He had 15 in the 1st quarter against EC the other night, but only 5 more for the rest of the game. He finished 7/11 for a game high 20 points. At the half, no one else had scored outside of Wrinkle and Scales. What would the score have been if there was more focus on screening to get Scales free and clearing out the floor? He doesnt average near the shot attempts that others get to put up the same kinds of numbers. I realize that if they facegaurd and commit others to not letting Scales get any decent looks then it should leave others open to score, but that doesnt work for us against really elite teams that can put up big points like we can when Scales is involved. Wrinkle consistently puts up numbers along with Scales but we have to get more from the supporting cast to be able to beat Kountze's, the Westwoods, and the Chappel Hills. And by consistency, I dont always mean scoring, I mean doing whatever it takes to win. Playing D, rebounding the basketball, sprinting up the floor. Passing up a decent shot to get a great shot, etc . Alot of our downfalls against the really good teams, is just nerves and some of the boys needing to s ettle in under the bright lights.
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50 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:
The lions have deep roster this year
continuous fresh legs for their style is a dangerous thing for opponents
Yes, the Kountze depth I believe is the key to their success as well. I also think that their role players know their roles and stick to them. Sells has always been their leading scorer and now Donald has emerged as their 1,2 punch. Add that to some good outside shooting and guys that know what the right play is, and you will have a winning team.
In Orangefield's case, we are very talented, but aren't as deep as we'd like to be. Losing 7 Seniors last year didn't help with depth and we definitely struggle rebounding the ball. The team is very unselfish and we have guys settling in, so I know we will keep getting better.
I'd anticipate Anuhuac being another good game Friday night, and Kountze next Tuesday to be an all out War if the both teams show up the way I know they can.
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5 hours ago, Sports86 said:
EC lost
Yes, OF beat EC but I knew they were better than what they had showed against Kountze last Friday. They gave us a good game and played well.
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It's all about matchups, and anyone who knows basketball knew a Coach Sutherland Team would respond to the loss they took against Kountze the other night. Proud to come out with the win and appreciate the close game because it forces players to understand where they need to improve to become better as a team.
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PNG has the talent to be better than what they are showing. Coach Chris needs to address shot selection, situational awareness & selfishness with his players. I have watched them play including against us and their role players aren't utilized enough. When role players get involved and show they can knock down shots, it will free up the lane and force single coverage for Adams and Eddison. Right now teams aren't worried about going out and guarding any of their role players, because they don't get the ball enough. At the end of the day, Adams & Eddison will be your best players and should have the most shot attempts, but you have to feed the family too! Just my opinion, but we know Langston (Great young man) personally and some of the other kids as well, so I hate to see them not playing to their potential.
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3 hours ago, setxathlete14 said:
No shots. Just have a good idea and info. you're in the know around OF without speculation on here.
I do agree that was a great move but the admin on the community survey and hearsay says there's a bunch of great candidates
Didn't know this could trigger such a childish reaction With the "taking shots" comment
If nothing negative was meant, then you have my sincerest apology. I'm sorry I took the post the wrong way.
I do personally know some folks who have inside information on things sometimes, but I wouldnt want to lose their trust by sharing anything they tell me in confidence. On this particular "AD/HC Situation" I can just say that I believe it will be filled quickly since there is an immediate need to fill the role.
- CowboyJeffR and WOSdrummer99
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Kirbyville 41 Orangefield 65/FINAL
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Not taking anything away from Kirbyville or making any excuses for the team shooting percentage, but the boys total focus was on Zane's 1,000 point night and getting up enough to unload the bench. Whitmire never really runs it up on anyone and as a parent we are totally good with that. He is teaching our boys more than basketball.