TheOutsider

Former Lum OC at BC

16 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I know for a fact that Bridge City AD/HC Josh Smalley has a masters degree.

But did he have it when he was first hired to be AD/HFC at OF or did he obtain after he got the job?

13 hours ago, Bobcat2 said:

Slot T beat Newton back to back years, can’t wait to see them try to run 5 wide against a Newton caliber team.

You must never have watched this guy call offense.  Even at WB he had a tight end on the field majority of the time and then at LCM played w/ 2 tight ends a lot and was run heavy.  Everyone thinks the spread is Air Raid.  In reality the base of it is spread triple option. Breaux has shown his offense is adaptable year to year based on his personnel.

3 minutes ago, Coach85 said:

He has a son that is a going to be a freshman and is a QB. OF already has starting QB that started as a freshman last year. If they bring him in you know he would want his kid to be the QB. That would not sit well with the community because the freshman starter is very well liked by the players and community. OF community is very tight knitted. That’s probably a big reason they shied away from him.

Or maybe this guy wasn't well known and Breaux has shown success locally and people know more about him than they got from a couple interviews.  

43 minutes ago, 2wedge said:

This is probably the primary reason the chirpers above didn't feel like he was a good "fit". Might get in Little Johnny's way of being the first air raid QB in the history of the Orangefield program. Either way, I do not know Coach Breaux, and I wish him the best of luck. I just can't get over the fact that a coach with state championship experience applied for the Orangefield job and didn't get it. That's probably the darndest thing I've ever heard on this site! If they'd do a little research, the reasons he has had so many job changes are understandable and clearly worked to advance his career. His oldest is heading to Lamar and his younger son is about to be a freshman. Sounds like a pretty good shot for, at least, a 4-year term. If he delivers to Orangefield in those 4 years what he has delivered in Harmony in his 2 years there, I promise you the candidates for the job next time would be significantly better than the list they had for this opening. But, hey, we gon' run da spread!!

Doesn't Breaux have state game experience?

Just now, Bobcat1 said:

College ranks at Lamar? I don't see where else he coached. 

I'm shocked we passed on Jenkins. 

If its the guy Im thinkin of, believe he spent time at Mcneese & Henderson. Guy knows his stuff.

1 hour ago, 2wedge said:

Going out on a limb here, but if the Harmony coach wants to come to Orangefield, they'd be insane not to give him the job. He has had a noted track record of success at each stop he has made and recently made a run to state. I cannot imagine there is another candidate on their list who is as credentialed as him. 

Do you know who the finalist are? If not how can you say they haven't had success and been to state before?

This one got quiet

On 12/15/2023 at 1:00 PM, LIBERTY82 said:

Is that the only two offenses available to play in football anymore?  Slot T or Spread?

What about pistol, zone read RPO, power wing or power I, double Wing, run-n-shoot,  60/40 series, veer ?  Are those obsolete? 

Always interested in how people define the "spread". If you look at modern "spread offenses" it's just a "spread version of triple option.  

23 minutes ago, SD_2 said:

Worst kept secret in SETX as many have said before. He's been denying it all year, which I don't understand. If it was to "protect" the players, they already knew and it showed by their demeanor this year. He's going "home" and getting paid more so not sure the reason for "hiding" it or avoiding what everyone already knew. Hopefully he's not making the move just to "make his best 5 years" for retirement. Knowing his track record I doubt that would be the case. 

No doubt.  Should've just got this done 2 years ago and avoided snowcones.

37 minutes ago, Pirates Plunder07 said:

Smalley to BC 

Peevey to OF 

Heard it here first!

Trying to get away from the Pirates losing more to the Bears already huh?

13 hours ago, MackLewis said:

I agree to a point.

PNG also has a history, culture, and quite a bit of talent.

PNG was no stranger to the 3rd and 4th round, they just needed to learn to play defense.   They went and found their answer.

OF has a long ways to go to be playing in Arlington.   They should be happy with the leader they’ve had.   Hiring a man to come in and take them from the 1st round, to the 3rd or 4th round would take a miracle.

Not that it shouldn’t be the goal, just don’t let the goal be the expectation.

I agree with that. Goals are different than expectations. Good point. 

On 12/9/2023 at 4:02 PM, MackLewis said:

No doubt Orangefield has tough, hard working kids.   And that’s a start to developing a program.    Most years, Orangefield lacks size, and speed.   Hard to win at an unrealistic level without that combination.

The Orangefield 4x100 record was broken last year.   Does anyone know how long the old record stood?   I was born in 1978, and it was set before I was born.   Orangefield lacks speed.

Orangefield kids are disciplined as well.  Despite their lack of athleticism, Smalley, and others have had success because of the work ethic, toughness, and discipline.   Not because they out athlete anyone.

Being the biggest school in your district and entire classification helps too.  As long as the Bobcats stay 3A-D1 they will be ok with Smalley, and most anyone else.

But even then, they have a ceiling.

I remember people saying PNG had a ceiling and wouldn't be able to beat teams like FBM but here they are in Dallas again.  Not saying OF is PNG, just saying it's all about the standard thats instilled in the team and community.  

Let’s stop the “Orangefield don’t have those type of kids” when every year we watch state championship games and some teams look like Orangefield. 
Orangefield has tough, decently athletic kids most years and should be disciplined. Also maybe you hire a guy that is great hire, doesn’t want to coach at a big school, and wants to raise his family in a great community. Even it means not getting paid as much. 

BC did not opt up.

When will list of applicants come out for this or has it not been enough days?

4 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said:

Jeff matthews ?

Oh athlete with a curveball no one has talked about.  BC guy.  Never really retired if you watched Vidor this year.  Slot T returns to BC?

54 minutes ago, Indianforever said:

That’s what I’m thinking 

Is BC a better job than OF?...

17 hours ago, Mustang1980 said:

Great points from all regarding the money. Agree that we have best overall facilities although concrete seating could be upgraded. Having said that, best athletes and best facilities deserve the very best coach. Since money appears to not be an issue then open up the wallet and get the best coach we can get. 

Idk them concrete bleachers been man makers and developing speed for about 40 years now.  May not wanna get rid of em.

2 hours ago, HasBeen36 said:

Prouse is a stud. Let’s go!

 

Been saying it!

48 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

Not refuting the comments about the awesome winning tradition and community pride. Y’all have always had great community support in the past. But I think the school district’s financial stability is a non-issue in regards to the money brought in by athletics. Also, (just my opinion) the community should stick by their team and go to games whether they’re winning or not. That’s the real definition of community support. 

Agreed.  District is definitely not hurting for money.  Probably best overall facilities in SETX and have all the chem road money plus the giant check they got from CP.  

1 hour ago, buccaneers4lyfe said:

What program is in better shape right now? LCM or WOS, it seems like both programs are having their struggles.

Well one of the programs just finished a season where for the 1st time in school history had 3 winning seasons in a row and made the playoffs all 3 years while all the while returning 95% of the roster. The other was the winningest program in Texas by % and has had back to back losing seasons. Tough question to answer though. 

1 hour ago, Bobcat101 said:

Would hate to see him leave, He's been a good role model to my kids.  He does practice his convictions on the sidelines.

What exceptions are you talking about? To be top 4 in a 6 team district.

Peevey - Not leaving LCM/  He's got a stable base of athletes coming in and up.

Prouse would be a DEFINITELY NO in my book.

Smalley great guy and coach and has done a great job at OF.

Why so negative on Prouse? Your kids play for him?

19 hours ago, png742 said:

Just my thought on this is that the UIL should not allow teams to opt up. You play the teams that fall in your classification. Then everyone has the same advantage based in student counts. 

HJ will get the nod.  They got a guy in the UIL.

But he did play in playoff games & state championship as a freshman. Idk anything about the kid this year, must be a dog though.