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Was just stating that was an exaggeration of the facts.  As far as the rest, I have heard it all.  Heck even from some of the parents who's kids are playing next to mine.  Couple of points...  first, nothing about select baseball that takes away from that sense of community pride.  Second,  youth sports whether you are talking soccer, cheerleading, gymnastics, baseball, football,... is big business.  Even colleges are in on the gig.  I get two or three emails a week from colleges wanting my son to come to their prospect camp.  Guess what... they all cost money.  Then there is the recruiting services, talk about a racket.  Do these select ball coaches and teams get a player more exposure....  absolutely.  Do they make calls on behalf of your kid...  absolutely.  Would some of these kids get scholarships anyway... absolutely.  So what does that all mean nothing...  absolutely nothing other than it is each parents personal decision to do what they think is best for their kid.  But to just blindly blame select baseball for causing all the repetitive motion injuries and everything else that is wrong with the sport, is just flat out wrong.

Was just stating that was an exaggeration of the facts.  As far as the rest, I have heard it all.  Heck even from some of the parents who's kids are playing next to mine.  Couple of points...  first, nothing about select baseball that takes away from that sense of community pride.  Second,  youth sports whether you are talking soccer, cheerleading, gymnastics, baseball, football,... is big business.  Even colleges are in on the gig.  I get two or three emails a week from colleges wanting my son to come to their prospect camp.  Guess what... they all cost money.  Then there is the recruiting services, talk about a racket.  Do these select ball coaches and teams get a player more exposure....  absolutely.  Do they make calls on behalf of your kid...  absolutely.  Would some of these kids get scholarships anyway... absolutely.  So what does that all mean nothing...  absolutely nothing other than it is each parents personal decision to do what they think is best for their kid.  But to just blindly blame select baseball for causing all the repetitive motion injuries and everything else that is wrong with the sport, is just flat out wrong.

I have agreed with that from the beginning.  Just was making the point that he was not representing the facts 100%, and that college players play more than 5 1/2 months,  much more.  But to point the finger at select ball and say that is the problem is like point the finger at guns and say that the have to be banned because they kill people.  People pull the trigger, just like parents (people) have to decide what is right for their son or daughter (how much down time do they need).  To blame just select baseball is a short sided generalization.

Ok .. Then I'm pointing the finger at the parents .. Is that better ? 
And one question to all the people on here talking about how bad 
select ball is .. Do you even a kid that plays baseball ? And where at ? 

High school actually does have fall ball and now has baseball athletics....  I see by your user that you are a basketball person...  do think all these high school basketball players should stop playing in their summer leagues.  Colleges have a fall practice session and players play in summer leagues after their college season!!!

Gonna defend Select Baseball a little bit.  Most select teams at the high school level play June & July.  Take off August and may play a few Sunday DH games in the fall.  The coaches in select ball at the high school level are more about getting their kids seen and giving them the opportunity to get to play at the next level, than winning games... hence the term showcase!!!  Pitch counts are usually much lower in Select than in High School.  Select takes a bad rap for a lot...  some of it may be deserved, but a lot of it is not!!!  Do kids need down time, and not play year round?  Not going to argue that point, but that is up to the individual kid and parents to determine if and/or how to accomplish that.

No doubt our area is legit in HS baseball 

5-1 47K 14BB 1.455era .. This all off game changer 

Well said N844-GCM...........
 

I'm sure this will piss someone off, but oh well.  Hypothetically speaking of course, if I was a dad and my son decided to "make a stand", and said "stand" was him going to play volleyball during "baseball" season, in the middle of district play, id ring his damn neck, I'm not in the business of stepping on other parents toes, because being a parent is not an easy task, and we  all want for our kids to make all the right decisions and be the best at everything, but you're missing an opportunity here, to teach a lesson. Making stands are character defining, ego-boosting, admirable, courageous, and some instances, down right stupid. You can choose what category it falls into.  I'm only basing my "opinion off of "your" post and the info in this thread.  *the players played in a meaningless volleyball game that coach didn't want them playing in because the risk of injury could derail any playoff dream.  And the players played in the game anyway, and luckily came out injury free.  Coach found out and punished the kids who played, resulting in 2 other kids getting an opportunity to play a signifucant role int a key game, which you lost.  I think the pnemaking the true "stand" here, is the Coach. Did his team suffer from not having the services of 2 key players? Yeah it seems so, but coach didn't make that decision, that punishment to the team, was dealt by the selfish players who went against the will of their coach, and by all means common sense, by playing in a meaningless volleyball game, which now holds so much more significance, than it ever should have. The kids let their team down, the coach "made a stand"

Sundgren on the hill!!.... I'll take Silsbee 5-1

Just a business decision...  Not bs or agenda...   If u were running a business, that hosted nations tournaments every other weekend and someone else came in to run ussa tournaments on your off weekends, you probably wouldn't be real excited about having your organization play in those usssa tournaments either.  As someone who's kid has had the privilege of playing for Mo and Wes for years, I can tell you they are very much about the kids and later on if your kid stays with it...  There is NOBODY that will work harder to get your kid the opportunity to play at the next level than the two of them!!!  

Worth the read... For everyone especially parents and coaches

In Nashville, Tennessee, during the first week of January, 1996, more than 4,000 baseball coaches descended upon the Opryland Hotel for the 52nd annual ABCA convention.
While I waited in line to register with the hotel staff, I heard other more veteran coaches rumbling about the lineup of speakers scheduled to present during the weekend. One name, in particular, kept resurfacing, always with the same sentiment — “John Scolinos is here? Oh man, worth every penny of my airfare.”
Who the heck is John Scolinos, I wondered. Well, in 1996 Coach Scolinos was 78 years old and five years retired from a college coaching career that began in 1948. No matter, I was just happy to be there.
He shuffled to the stage to an impressive standing ovation, wearing dark polyester pants, a light blue shirt, and a string around his neck from which home plate hung — a full-sized, stark-white home plate. Pointed side down. Seriously, I wondered, who in the hell is this guy?
After speaking for twenty-five minutes, not once mentioning the prop hanging around his neck, Coach Scolinos appeared to notice the snickering among some of the coaches. Even those who knew Coach Scolinos had to wonder exactly where he was going with this, or if he had simply forgotten about home plate since he’d gotten on stage.
Then, finally … “You’re probably all wondering why I’m wearing home plate around my neck. Or maybe you think I escaped from Camarillo State Hospital,” he said, his voice growing irascible. I laughed along with the others, acknowledging the possibility.
“No,” he continued, “I may be old, but I’m not crazy. The reason I stand before you today is to share with you baseball people what I’ve learned in my life, what I’ve learned about home plate in my 78 years.”
Several hands went up when Scolinos asked how many Little League coaches were in the room. “Do you know how wide home plate is in Little League?” After a pause, someone offered, “Seventeen inches,” more question than answer.
“That’s right,” he said. “How about in Babe Ruth? Any Babe Ruth coaches in the house?” Another long pause.
“Seventeen inches?”came a guess from another reluctant coach.
“That’s right,” said Scolinos. “Now, how many high school coaches do we have in the room?” Hundreds of hands shot up, as the pattern began to appear. “How wide is home plate in high school baseball?”
“Seventeen inches,” they said, sounding more confident. “You’re right!” Scolinos barked. “And you college coaches, how wide is home plate in college?”
“Seventeen inches!” we said, in unison.“Any Minor League coaches here? How wide is home plate in pro ball?”
“Seventeen inches!” “RIGHT! And in the Major Leagues, how wide home plate is in the Major Leagues?”
“Seventeen inches!” “SEV-EN-TEEN INCHES!” he confirmed, his voice bellowing off the walls.
“And what do they do with a a Big League pitcher who can’t throw the ball over these seventeen inches?” Pause. “They send him to Pocatello!” he hollered, drawing raucous laughter.
“What they don’t do is this: they don’t say, ‘Ah, that’s okay, Bobby. You can’t hit a seventeen-inch target? We’ll make it eighteen inches, or nineteen inches. We’ll make it twenty inches so you have a better chance of throwing the ball over it. If you can’t hit that, let us know so we can make it wider still, say twenty-five inches.’”
Pause. “Coaches …” Pause.
” … what do we do when our best player shows up late to practice? What do we do if he violates curfew? What if he uses drugs? Do we hold him accountable? Or do we change the rules to fit him? Do we widen home plate?
The chuckles gradually faded as four thousand coaches grew quiet, the fog lifting as the old coach’s message began to unfold.
Then he turned the plate toward himself and, using a Sharpie, began to draw something. When he turned it toward the crowd, point up, a house was revealed, complete with a freshly drawn door and two windows. “This is the problem in our homes today. With our marriages, with the way we parent our kids. With our discipline. We don’t teach accountability to our kids, and there is no consequence for failing to meet standards. We widen the plate!”
Pause. Then, to the point at the top of the house he added a small American flag.
“This is the problem in our schools today. The quality of our education is going downhill fast and teachers have been stripped of the tools they need to be successful….to educate and discipline our young people. We are allowing others to widen home plate! Where is that getting us?”
“And this is the problem in the Church, where powerful people in positions of authority have taken advantage of young children, only to have such an atrocity swept under the rug for years. Our church leaders are widening home plate!”
I was amazed. At a baseball convention where I expected to learn something about curveballs and bunting and how to run better practices, I had learned something far more valuable. From an old man with home plate strung around his neck, I had learned something about life, about myself, about my own weaknesses and about my responsibilities as a leader. I had to hold myself and others accountable to that which I knew to be right, lest our families, our faith, and our society continue down an undesirable path.
“If I am lucky,” Coach Scolinos concluded, “you will remember one thing from this old coach today. It is this: if we fail to hold ourselves to a higher standard, a standard of what we know to be right; if we fail to hold our spouses and our children to the same standards, if we are unwilling or unable to provide a consequence when they do not meet the standard; and if our schools and churches and our government fail to hold themselves accountable to those they serve, there is but one thing to look forward to …”
With that, he held home plate in front of his chest, turned it around, and revealed its dark black backside. “… dark days ahead.”
Coach Scolinos died in 2009 at the age of 91, but not before touching the lives of hundreds of players and coaches, including mine. Meeting him at my first ABCA convention kept me returning year after year, looking for similar wisdom and inspiration from other coaches. He is the best clinic speaker the ABCA has ever known because he was so much more than a baseball coach.
His message was clear: “Coaches, keep your players — no matter how good they are — your own children, and most of all, keep yourself at seventeen inches.
 

I was there. I am a PNG fan. But his actions were uncalled for. No matter what the environment is like, as a kid ,which he still is, should not act like that in any game no matter the intensity of it. He is a highly thought of prospect and his dad charging the field makes him look even worse. He needs to show he can handle the adversity and control hisself. My son is on the sophomore team and if he acted like that I would not be charging the field to get at the umpire as Henry's did. I would be charging it to yank my kid off the field and tear his arse up. The actions of both the son and dad are totally uncalled for and should be dealt with some sort of punishment.

Silsbee needs  to get back on track tonight.. Sundgren on the bump.. playing at home in a must win I'll take Silsbee 3-2 ... Hopefully that doesn't offend anyone !!!

I think you would count your eggs just not your chickens LOL

Getting officials from Waco chapter was a huge plus.   Allowed us to play our style of play.

Freshmen definately don't play like freshmen do they!  No stage too big!!!! Geaux Tigers!!!!

Freshmen definately don't play like freshmen do they!  No stage too big!!!! Geaux Tigers!!!!

So glad to see MOSSHILL has come over to the dark side.  Went from a non believer to one of our strongest supporters!  Just have to witness these Tigers to truly appreciate the rare speed, depth and talent that hits the floor!!!  Welcome to the family & Geaux Tigers!!!

Per game? Per Week? Per year? I really think it is a terrible idea because every arm is different. If the UIL wants to start a pitch count then they need to start a tackle count and pass attempt in football as well as a shot attempt in basketball. I would hate for anyone to get tennis elbow

BC is always tough and never rebuild just reload. But after playing Silsbee last year in the playoffs, I will give them the nod, those boys are tough and never quit. They will be a big force in that district for years to come. Silsbee has plenty of pitching and they have some pretty good bats also.

Here we geaux!!!!!

Bedelmon you are a true peach!  Sounds like you are reliving your childhood thru your son.