AthleticSupporter - Jock

You are only making yourself look less knowledgeable than what was previously obvious.

No he did not.  He went to Vincent Middle School.  

For those who are "whining" about the whiners, I would add this:    The conversation about what goes on at Yates has NOT come up just because a local team lost a game to them.   It's been oft mentioned  on this board for at least the last 7 or 8 years (aka- dozens and dozens of references to "communications programs" that take place year round, not just during basketball season.

They would need to go to the gym, work harder, watch more films, and become 6'8" in large numbers.

Wouldn't nobody here be apologizing for these squads if their teams were the ones that had to deal with it.
Hypothetical Super team - 150
Beaumont United - 40
If that something like that happened every year, you know good and well feelings would change.
I applaud Coach Davis for speaking the truth after the game.

I cant answer that just like you or they can't answer " would the results have been the same if the 4 seniors who suddenly showed up this year ( in a mysterious quest for a better education, of course) had not shown  up?

Wow. Lemme find that article.  Playing devils advocate, looking at it from Yates' end, Coach Davis' words can come off as a little 'salty' after a loss.

Last few paragraphs from Beaumont Enterprise article on tonight's game. Thought this was good:
Jaystan Davis was proud to represent Hardin-Jefferson and be coached by his father.
  “It was special moment for sure,” Jaystan Davis said. “It’s been a good three years playing for him and we have had had our ups and downs, struggles and success. I have become so much mentally stronger as a player and being a coach’s kid. I have learned how to work well with others and be a great teammate. I’ll take that with me when I graduate and enter the real world.”
While Clay Davis was hugging his son, he exchanged words with a Yates fan in the crowd where he became emotional and told the crowd that he was hugging his son.
Hardin-Jefferson never led in the game. Yates’ up-tempo offense and press defense cause problems for the Hawks.
  Austin Samaya led the Hawks with 20 points.
  Preparing for the No. 1 team in Class 4A can be challenging.
“Probably have to go recruit some players,” said Clay Davis on preparing for Yates. “Unfortunately, the system is a little broken right now. There is holes in the system and they choose to take advantage of them. It is what it is, and it’s hard to prepare for. We will take the kids we have in our system that come up in our system. I wouldn’t trade any of our kids for anyone else.”
The Lions scored 100 points in their 20th straight game. Yates senior guard Rubin Jones knocked down the 3-pointer with 2:58 left in the fourth quarter that lifted the team over the 100-point mark as the crowd from Yates cheered on the Lions.
As the season comes to an end for the Hawks, its five seniors made a name for themselves within the program.
“The legacy that they will leave is that they represented Hardin-Jefferson basketball the way it should be represented. I’m so proud,” Clay Davis said. “Those are our kids, Hardin-Jefferson kids from Day 1. We don’t go out and recruit our players. The kids that we put on the floor are Hardin-Jefferson kids from our program.”
 
I think Coach Davis says it all. Kudos to him and his team.

They tried to make adjustments, but their communications program was not good enough to induce 4  6'8" players to move in to the HJ district.

It's only a select few who do that from there when Lumberton loses in any sport against anyone. 

LCM travels to HF on Tuesday and the winner of that game is in the playoffs, I believe. 
And let me say for the record that as good of a coach as Rideaux is, he may be a better teacher in my book. He's old school and has kids put phones away and actually use the physical copy of their book. No Google or social media. Just in your face, challenging, confrontational discussions about real world, controversial topics. And he's not afraid to hurt a student's feelings if it will help prepare them better.  I hope HF knows how good of a teacher they gained in addition to a good basketball coach. Not many of those kids will earn a living in basketball. He prepares kids for life. In a world where we need good liberals for good honest debate with us conservatives, Rideaux is a breath of fresh air. 

LCM travels to HF on Tuesday and the winner of that game is in the playoffs, I believe. 
And let me say for the record that as good of a coach as Rideaux is, he may be a better teacher in my book. He's old school and has kids put phones away and actually use the physical copy of their book. No Google or social media. Just in your face, challenging, confrontational discussions about real world, controversial topics. And he's not afraid to hurt a student's feelings if it will help prepare them better.  I hope HF knows how good of a teacher they gained in addition to a good basketball coach. Not many of those kids will earn a living in basketball. He prepares kids for life. In a world where we need good liberals for good honest debate with us conservatives, Rideaux is a breath of fresh air. 

Ltown with another playoff appearance making it 2 straight years!! Congrats to Coach Mitchell and the Raiders 

LCM travels to HF on Tuesday and the winner of that game is in the playoffs, I believe. 
And let me say for the record that as good of a coach as Rideaux is, he may be a better teacher in my book. He's old school and has kids put phones away and actually use the physical copy of their book. No Google or social media. Just in your face, challenging, confrontational discussions about real world, controversial topics. And he's not afraid to hurt a student's feelings if it will help prepare them better.  I hope HF knows how good of a teacher they gained in addition to a good basketball coach. Not many of those kids will earn a living in basketball. He prepares kids for life. In a world where we need good liberals for good honest debate with us conservatives, Rideaux is a breath of fresh air. 

LCM travels to HF on Tuesday and the winner of that game is in the playoffs, I believe. 
And let me say for the record that as good of a coach as Rideaux is, he may be a better teacher in my book. He's old school and has kids put phones away and actually use the physical copy of their book. No Google or social media. Just in your face, challenging, confrontational discussions about real world, controversial topics. And he's not afraid to hurt a student's feelings if it will help prepare them better.  I hope HF knows how good of a teacher they gained in addition to a good basketball coach. Not many of those kids will earn a living in basketball. He prepares kids for life. In a world where we need good liberals for good honest debate with us conservatives, Rideaux is a breath of fresh air. 

LCM travels to HF on Tuesday and the winner of that game is in the playoffs, I believe. 
And let me say for the record that as good of a coach as Rideaux is, he may be a better teacher in my book. He's old school and has kids put phones away and actually use the physical copy of their book. No Google or social media. Just in your face, challenging, confrontational discussions about real world, controversial topics. And he's not afraid to hurt a student's feelings if it will help prepare them better.  I hope HF knows how good of a teacher they gained in addition to a good basketball coach. Not many of those kids will earn a living in basketball. He prepares kids for life. In a world where we need good liberals for good honest debate with us conservatives, Rideaux is a breath of fresh air. 

Crickets. We need bedelmon back!

I have to give a huge thank you to Martin for making one of Lumberton’s little ones happy tonight. If you’re from lumberton I’m sure you know Trace White, after the game Chris played basketball up and down the court with him. 

Coming from a Lumberton Raider fan, ya'll earned my respect when we played ya'll. Congratulations on your State Championship!!! I was rooting for you at Buffalo Wild Wings in Beaumont! Great game !!!

Dang Carthage looks overrated...Vega will need 80 points to win by 50 if they can hold them lol

That puts Lumberton back in 4A

Carthage is a great team. They did what they were supposed to do which is advance without getting any kids hurt. I hope that part happened because I saw a few kids leave the field. What I'm most proud of is that our coaches and kids came in ready to fight and let the chips fall where they may. We killed ourselves early with bad snaps, a chop block, etc which would have made for a closer game. But even into the 4th quarter, I saw kids launching their bodies into a bigger stronger opponent and never giving up. I would never question a coach using timeouts at the end of an unwinnable game to try to score again. It's one more chance to teach kids that it is never ok to give up or lay down. If someone can't understand that, then they need to spend some time looking in the mirror.  The Lumberton players had nothing but good things to say about the Carthage players. That says a lot about those kids, their parents and coaches. Great job Carthage!!!  I think some other parents could learn a few things from your example.  Great season Raiders!!

Carthage is a great team. They did what they were supposed to do which is advance without getting any kids hurt. I hope that part happened because I saw a few kids leave the field. What I'm most proud of is that our coaches and kids came in ready to fight and let the chips fall where they may. We killed ourselves early with bad snaps, a chop block, etc which would have made for a closer game. But even into the 4th quarter, I saw kids launching their bodies into a bigger stronger opponent and never giving up. I would never question a coach using timeouts at the end of an unwinnable game to try to score again. It's one more chance to teach kids that it is never ok to give up or lay down. If someone can't understand that, then they need to spend some time looking in the mirror.  The Lumberton players had nothing but good things to say about the Carthage players. That says a lot about those kids, their parents and coaches. Great job Carthage!!!  I think some other parents could learn a few things from your example.  Great season Raiders!!

Carthage is a great team. They did what they were supposed to do which is advance without getting any kids hurt. I hope that part happened because I saw a few kids leave the field. What I'm most proud of is that our coaches and kids came in ready to fight and let the chips fall where they may. We killed ourselves early with bad snaps, a chop block, etc which would have made for a closer game. But even into the 4th quarter, I saw kids launching their bodies into a bigger stronger opponent and never giving up. I would never question a coach using timeouts at the end of an unwinnable game to try to score again. It's one more chance to teach kids that it is never ok to give up or lay down. If someone can't understand that, then they need to spend some time looking in the mirror.  The Lumberton players had nothing but good things to say about the Carthage players. That says a lot about those kids, their parents and coaches. Great job Carthage!!!  I think some other parents could learn a few things from your example.  Great season Raiders!!

Aw, c’mon! I was really hoping to sit next to you and hear what it was like to play back before helmets had facemasks.