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For all of you illiterates... from my earlier post. 
 
The fact is that his actions mirrored those of your beloved Insurrectionists on 1/6.  You can argue all you want, but he's did the same thing that your heroes did.  More effectively, I might add.  At least he wasn't bonking cops on the head with a fire extinguisher. 
 
Ah, the good old days when some of you were arguing that it wasn't an insurrection because nobody had been indicted.  Y'all sure decided that an indictment was no longer a litmus test once they started indicting the insurrectionists.
Anybody care to bet on whether or not Trump gets indicted?  It's coming, and the cries of "witch hunt" from the sounding board will fill the air, lol.  

It was a protest right up until they tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power by keeping Congress from certifying the electoral votes.  That's the difference between the BLM riots and what happened on 1/6.  
And I agree with Fatso.... Trump DID coordinate the worst executed insurrection in history. 

Oh, I know for fact that I'm no better than anyone else.... I just recognize that somebody isn't thinking before following the rest of the sheep.  
 
Maybe if someone makes a movie on OAN about it, you'll believe it? 

No, there's not.  
You can find article after article about election fraud, but they are just reports ABOUT reports.... and nobody ever pops up with "here's the photos.... here's a video.... here's the electronic records.... here's the dead voters who voted."  It's always just some whackjob making crazed allegations without a single shred of tangible evidence.  
"oh, this blogger isn't mainstream media.... of course it's true, the media just won't report it." 
Like I said.... there are tons of threads and articles about how Earth is actually flat if you ever get bored with the election lie.

That's my point.... the Republican Party is ran by people who believe that anything less than complete capitulation to the Trump Mafia is a sign that one is just a "squishy moderate Republican" or a "RINO," when in fact the typical conservative voter doesn't agree with the Hard Right-wing stances. Just like I'm fairly certain that your average liberal voter doesn't agree with a lot of the positions of the hard-core left wingers that run the Democrat party. 

Unfortunately, your myopic (you'll probably have to google that ) view of the world makes you useless when it comes to seeing any other points of view, the same way that the Republican Party is useless when it comes to bringing voters into the fold and actually winning elections.  
 
Do you like to eat shrimp and catfish from time to time?  How's about we outlaw that since some even MORE orthodox believers think that consuming those scavengers is sinful?  THAT is actually in the Bible, unlike the abortion argument.  Before you throw out the "Old Testament vs New Testament" argument, I'd like to point out that the ten commandments are in the Old Testament.  You pick and choose your own morality, but wish to deny others the same privilege. 

That's my problem with the whole fiasco.  I personally expected to see widespread voter irregularities.  They never appeared, so I accepted the truth.  So many people refuse to do the same thing.  
If there was credible evidence of voter fraud, you could get the diesel and I'd bring the matches.  THERE JUST WASN'T ANY PROOF.  There's no problem with having questions about the outcome. We SHOULD ask questions in a constitutional republic like ours.  But at some point you have to realize that it had been two months after the election and no evidence was found, yet the Trumpers were storming the Capitol on 1/6 based on lies perpetuated by the losing party.  
I had a drink on the night of the election and told myself that I was gonna pretend like Trump won, because I knew that the results would shift towards Biden when the absentee votes were counted.  Rs went to the polls and voted in person in defiance.... Ds mailed their ballots from home while probably wearing a mask..... Just like so many of them continue to mask up today. And they just didn't have the mechanisms in place to count the absentee ballots as quickly.  It's not rocket science.  I hoped his lead would be sustained, but it wasn't, and it wasn't a surprise to the intelligent. 
Here we are two years late and an overwhelming majority of republicans on the ballot nationwide are still claiming that the election was stolen from Trump in 2020.  THAT is dangerous.  It doesn't matter what the blue collar and white collar Republican voters think.... when the elected officials from the R party are a bunch of flat-earthers when it comes to the 2020 election, it's not a good thing. 
 
 

I'm a Gen Xer who talks to tons of younger folks.  Those Boomers and Gen Xers got tons of Sunday School lessons, but then couldn't be bothered to take our kids to church and it shows up in their level of ambivalence on issues like abortion.  People like LumRaiderFan don't have any idea what to do about unwanted kids... they just know what they believe, and therefore everybody else should be held to his standard. 
99% of the people who are adamantly opposed to abortion aren't getting any, and that's what they're really angry about.  

Yeah... go to a meeting of your local republican group(s)... the party at the grassroots level is run by people who are complete righty nutjobs.  Like.... You can't support from the local party to run for dogcatcher as a republican unless you're willing publicly proclaim that Trump won the 2020 election but it got stolen. 

Was getting on to say exactly this.  She was pretty moderate for a democrat 20 years ago, so you can only imagine how far she is from the more liberal left now.  that being said, she's also probably closer to your average Republican these days than someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene is. 

The loons having control of the Democrat party is no different that the Trump-lovin', truth-denyin' whackjobs that are controlling the Republican Party at the moment. 

Big deal... .Trump paid for eight abortions himself, and Trumpkins still think GAWD HIMSELF sent Trump here (just like He sent Jesus) to save us from those evil Democrats. 
Remember..... you don't have to against abortion as a Republican-You just need the morons (ie, most posters here) to believe you're against abortion and they'll do the rest. 

Because the GOP pretends to be the party of morality and family values.

When “whatabout” is all you got, you know you have no response to the actual occurrence. I can see you’re one of those who DeSantis could starve and would still vote for hm.

Well it’s on twitter so it must be……

Because he is a criminal 

If only we had a cell phone picture of the theft.  Maybe a video?  How about some documentation?   
Trump's rallies were huge, but he still got molly-whopped.  The average (sane) person doesn't buy Presidential merch and go to rallies.  Trump supporters are nowhere near a majority.  They're literally a radical fringe group.  

You care bout debt depending on who's spending... SMH
You think bidens a dictator lol

Here’s the problem… with all of those true things about the democrats that you just stated, the Republicans are still on the verge of losing again.  How do they end up losing when the deck is rightfully stacked against the Ds this cycle?
By continuously aligning themselves with the most hated politician I can remember. 
 
And y’all can all stop yelling about Trump being “America First.” That’s not a reason to vote for somebody. There has never been a politician more “country first” than Adolph Hitler… y’all act like it was every Germans duty to support Hitler because he obviously had Germany’s best interests at heart. y’all just like a biggo bunch of Nazi sympathizers. 

Trump will get annihilated by any Democrat… Biden, Harris, Buttigeig,Pelosi, Clinton …. At this I believe Jimmy Carter could still whip him. 

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Latest polling indicates that The "Red Wave" predictions might have been a little premature.  It appears that the Dems will likely retain control of the Senate but mention a much more murky path towards retaining the House.  But the margin of victory IF the Republicans hold on is now predicted to be less than ten. So much for the complete return to congressional prominence by the Rs.
 
It's everything from Herschel Walker falling on his face in Georgia to decreasing gas prices to a general public that is just sick of all things Trump.  Week before last the Republicans were all rushing to defend Trump after the "political hitjob" by the DOJ and FBI at Trumps residence.  These days the Republicans kinda look like those people who rushed to support Jussie Smollet after he was attacked in Chicago.
 
The average American voter has had enough of the garbage.  Trump needs to just go away, but here he is today calling for an uprising within the FBI. Yeah, that's just what the masses want... More headaches from the Don. And Republicans keep aligning themselves with this clown is the scary part. 

Answer to your first question - Yes. 
Second answer - Yes. 
We're doing the "well a democrat did it, Trump can too" argument?  Seems childish. 
How many HOURS did H. Clinton have to testify in front of Congress? 
I'm I use your logic, she was vilified also and I don't recall her pleading the fifth. 
 

"Documents are deemed declassified when I take them."  Makes perfect sense to me.
He should have pardoned himself when he had the chance, too.  Or better yet, just have the VP refuse to recognize the electors and remain president.  
 
Being this stupid should hurt. 
 
FWIW, I don't want Obama or any other ex president to be holding documents with the highest possible security clearance in their closet at the house.  Y'all would all be crying that a democrat had threatened our national security if they did the same thing that Trump did. 

It's well documented all over the internet by every major news outlet out there, as well as news outlets in the Minneapolis area.  There are a lot of fake news stories on this site from a lot of dubious sources, but sadly this story is really happening.  It's mind-blowing.  

So you agree that you don't have to be baptized to enter heaven

You keep going back to the same thing.  If I went back to everything you've posted on here that I disagreed with or thought was wrong, I'd have to start a new forum.  It's always pretty obvious when you have no rebuttal once you start going back to a completely unrelated issue I haven't even mentioned in over a year and a half as the reason that I'm wrong.  That being said, you're being intentionally dense if you can't understand the clearly stated, and completely inarguable point that I'm making in this thread.  There's nothing to debate on that point.  And talk about me spinning things: Joe Biden would've been a democrat in the 1860's?  That's hilarious.  You ARE an 1860's democrat. All of your political beliefs line up with theirs.  It's inarguable.  Like I said in another response, for the most part, so am I.  We can look back a century and a half later and say that, yes, slavery was a terrible thing.  But that doesn't change the fact that the people with the same conservative beliefs and policies that Republicans have today were the ones who benefitted from slavery and fought to keep it from being abolished.