Dick Vitale

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1379722" timestamp="1361907556"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109454.msg1379721#msg1379721 date=1361907384] I 'm with Michael Jordan on this one...You cannot argue with rings... 8)...No, but seriously, I am saying that Bosha is a really good player that needs to do a few things over the summer to elevate his game if he wants to take it to the next level...Bottom line. [/quote] If you are with Jordan, then Bill Russell is the greatest player to ever step on a basketball court.  I am confident that Mr. Bosha will continue to improve. [/quote] Bill Russell had no equal in those days...It was not as difficult to win championships back in Russell's day...Kinda like the UIL PRE-integration... ::) ::)

I 'm with Michael Jordan on this one...You cannot argue with rings... 8)...No, but seriously, I am saying that Bosha is a really good player that needs to do a few things over the summer to elevate his game if he wants to take it to the next level...Bottom line.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1379659" timestamp="1361900324"] [quote author=Big girl link=topic=109454.msg1379655#msg1379655 date=1361899860] Blue Dove I am not mad at all. Not once did I say that Bosha did not have weaknesses. Lazeek I really dont know what you are talking about but I do know that I am not a bad apple, I am just giving my opinion. I have seen you write some really stupid stuff on this thread so dont judge me. SMH [/quote] I have posted one post on this thread.  And it was far from stupid. Just saying you are making an ass of yourself!!!! [/quote] Some people just GET it, and some don't...I will go out on a limb and say for sure that LAZEEK GETS IT... 8)

[quote name="2-2-1" post="1379651" timestamp="1361899435"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109809.msg1379645#msg1379645 date=1361898589] [quote author=2-2-1 link=topic=109809.msg1379638#msg1379638 date=1361896650] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109809.msg1379612#msg1379612 date=1361894322] [quote author=2-2-1 link=topic=109809.msg1379610#msg1379610 date=1361894124] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109809.msg1379598#msg1379598 date=1361892797] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=109809.msg1379593#msg1379593 date=1361892603] I took this thread as just being a thread about supporting one's team and trying to pump up the fan base. Didn't think it was necessary to start debating on who will win the game. There are plenty of threads discussing that topic. [/quote] And nothing can pump up the fan base like a little bit of pot stirring can! I am actually doing you guys a FAVOR! ;D...Relax, man, your guys will do fine...You KNOW they are going to play hard! Just enjoy it and let the chips fall where they may! I just hate that I can't be there to see it! 8) [/quote] Haha! DV, there are not enough hours in the day to "smite" you with. Very little respect for a man like yourself. And no, I don't care what you have to say so go ahead and reply with your best. Good luck Silsbee, from Big Sandy. [/quote] Well thats your prerogative.. You can NOT respect me on here all you like....Key word: ON HERE.. ;) [/quote] If you're implying that you lead two different lives, one on here and another elsewhere, then you have problems son. If you act anything like you do on here, disrespectful/obnoxious/annoying/childlike, then no, I don't want anything to do with you outside of this site. [/quote] Its a message board... ::) ::)...Whats obnoxious or childlike about stating FACTS or even one's opinions? Especially when they are coming from an insightful place... You are right...You don't know me and it would be best that we kept it that way. [/quote] The constant belittling of others is what is obnoxious and childlike, not to mention ridiculous. You are all those things I mentioned earlier. Insightful or not, if you used your opinions or facts as just that and left it as such then we would obviously not be having this conversation. Take for instance this thread. Quote from: Dick Vitale on Today at 09:17:47 AM BADSANTA, that was awe inspiring...You clearly have pride in your school and community...But tonight...will be the final game...Its been a great run...But it's over...Get ready for track and baseball season... Not necessary son. [/quote] Get back to me tomorrow and let me know if ANYTHING that I said was incorrect. If I am wrong in my prediction, I will gladly man up and say so.  ;) Question: How is THAT belittling? Really. I am still trying to figure out your self imposed definitions.  I post things just as everyone else on here. I just tell it like it is....and for some thats hard to swallow at times...Don't take it personal...I don't.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1379642" timestamp="1361897770"] Did NOT say Brandon couldnt shoot.  I am telling you that as a junior, Bosha is a better shooter than Brandon was as a junior.  As I said before, I am quite conversant with shooting and you and I are NOT in different "leagues" when it comes to that aspect of the game. [/quote] If they BOTH can shoot it, then how did you determine that Bosha was a BETTER shooter? Brandon was a better overall player as a junior, and had the hardware to back that. He was a key part to that state championship team. Do you actually think Bosha was BETTER as a junior? I don't. With that said, I think Bosha has GREAT upside. Length and skill...He has that.

[quote name="2-2-1" post="1379638" timestamp="1361896650"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109809.msg1379612#msg1379612 date=1361894322] [quote author=2-2-1 link=topic=109809.msg1379610#msg1379610 date=1361894124] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109809.msg1379598#msg1379598 date=1361892797] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=109809.msg1379593#msg1379593 date=1361892603] I took this thread as just being a thread about supporting one's team and trying to pump up the fan base. Didn't think it was necessary to start debating on who will win the game. There are plenty of threads discussing that topic. [/quote] And nothing can pump up the fan base like a little bit of pot stirring can! I am actually doing you guys a FAVOR! ;D...Relax, man, your guys will do fine...You KNOW they are going to play hard! Just enjoy it and let the chips fall where they may! I just hate that I can't be there to see it! 8) [/quote] Haha! DV, there are not enough hours in the day to "smite" you with. Very little respect for a man like yourself. And no, I don't care what you have to say so go ahead and reply with your best. Good luck Silsbee, from Big Sandy. [/quote] Well thats your prerogative.. You can NOT respect me on here all you like....Key word: ON HERE.. ;) [/quote] If you're implying that you lead two different lives, one on here and another elsewhere, then you have problems son. If you act anything like you do on here, disrespectful/obnoxious/annoying/childlike, then no, I don't want anything to do with you outside of this site. [/quote] Its a message board... ::) ::)...Whats obnoxious or childlike about stating FACTS or even one's opinions? Especially when they are coming from an insightful place... You are right...You don't know me and it would be best that we kept it that way.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1379634" timestamp="1361896465"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109454.msg1379489#msg1379489 date=1361855533] [quote author=Stevenash link=topic=109454.msg1379482#msg1379482 date=1361854090] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109454.msg1379481#msg1379481 date=1361853882] [quote author=Big girl link=topic=109454.msg1379464#msg1379464 date=1361851011] LMBO......It is obvious that Blue Dove does not know anything about basketball. I played in college and we were required to run cross country. I even saw a posting where he said that Johnson was the only person on HJ's team that could create his own shot. LOL. Has he ever watched Bosha play? He is the compete package. He can shoot, he can drive, he is a great perimeter defender and he can hit the 3. Either Blue Dove is blind or he has never attended a HJ game. Wow!!!!! ;) [/quote] Sorry, but Bosha is not the complete package...Good player, but he has a few areas to improve upon...The fact that he did not lead his team to at LEAST a SECOND place finish IN 3A, tells a tale.  He definitely has the tools, but he needs to work hard this spring and summer....Trust me when I tell you...NOT the COMPLETE package. [/quote] Do tell, Dickie.  As an example, tell me what Brandon Chapelle had in his junior year that Mr. Bosha doesnt have? [/quote] As a junior, Brandon Chappell was the sixth man on an undefeated (36-0) Class 4A State Championship team, for starters...[b][color=red][size=12pt]He was a better shooter[/size][/color][/b], ball handler and playmaker than Bosha...And a MUCH better defender...NOT that Bosha will not GET there at some point, because he is a good player.  But Bosha was no comparison to Brandon Chappell as a junior...Not close... [/quote] Sorry, DV- but the shooting evaluation is incorrect..  I watched both play quite a bit and you are dead wrong on the shooting.  You can trust me when I tell you that the one thing that I understand very well is shooting. [/quote] Are you telling me that BRANDON CHAPPELL could not SHOOT?  :o....I think you are out of your league on this one, nash...WOW... :o

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1379616" timestamp="1361894526"] [quote author=Big girl link=topic=109454.msg1379601#msg1379601 date=1361893171] I live in Houston, I once lived in Dallas. I meant to say that I have lived in Dallas and have seen alot of kids play [/quote]Okay, let me break this down to you for you to understand what I am saying. Especially since we see your 'real" reason for[s] promoting [/s]your kin. Go watch or play against real D1 talent. It will give you an idea what you as a player, handler, promoter, wannabe-coach, or interested relative will need to see what weaknesses your kin will need to work on. You won't see it here in district play. I can't think of one kid in this area 6'4" or taller who would be able to create from the wing playing against the top elite summer teams. Keep bragging about what these kids do in these watered down district games. Its a whole "nother" big league out there that obviously you have no clue about. [/quote] He shoots....He scores!! AND THATS THE GAME!!!  ;D ;D ;D  Talk about telling it like it IS!!  ;)

OK, OK....Touche'... 8)

[quote name="2-2-1" post="1379610" timestamp="1361894124"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109809.msg1379598#msg1379598 date=1361892797] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=109809.msg1379593#msg1379593 date=1361892603] I took this thread as just being a thread about supporting one's team and trying to pump up the fan base. Didn't think it was necessary to start debating on who will win the game. There are plenty of threads discussing that topic. [/quote] And nothing can pump up the fan base like a little bit of pot stirring can! I am actually doing you guys a FAVOR! ;D...Relax, man, your guys will do fine...You KNOW they are going to play hard! Just enjoy it and let the chips fall where they may! I just hate that I can't be there to see it! 8) [/quote] Haha! DV, there are not enough hours in the day to "smite" you with. Very little respect for a man like yourself. And no, I don't care what you have to say so go ahead and reply with your best. Good luck Silsbee, from Big Sandy. [/quote] Well thats your prerogative.. You can NOT respect me on here all you like....Key word: ON HERE.. ;)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1379600" timestamp="1361893162"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109809.msg1379598#msg1379598 date=1361892797] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=109809.msg1379593#msg1379593 date=1361892603] I took this thread as just being a thread about supporting one's team and trying to pump up the fan base. Didn't think it was necessary to start debating on who will win the game. There are plenty of threads discussing that topic. [/quote] And nothing can pump up the fan base like a little bit of pot stirring can! I am actually doing you guys a FAVOR! ;D...Relax, man, your guys will do fine...You KNOW they are going to play hard! [b]Just enjoy it and let the chips fall where they may![/b] I just hate that I can't be there to see it! 8) [/quote] How can one enjoy it when one is constantly reminded they have no chance of winning? One cannot have a little thread to support their team without "someone" coming in and throwing the "negative waves" around. My point is, Silsbee coaches, players and fans know exactly what they are up against. Doesn't mean they cannot have confidence and support and believe in their team even when the deck is stacked against them. It just comes across DV that you just enjoy raining on folks parades. [/quote] Not at all, just enjoying the friendly debate and back and forth from the Silsbee contingent...Good luck to you guys, tonight.

[quote name="Big girl" post="1379599" timestamp="1361893075"] Wow, people seem to be a little touchy. I dont live in SE tx, I live in Dallas and I have seen alot of kids play. Would the "little doves" still be playing if they had to face Yates? If your kids are not in competition with Bosha why are you always talking bad about him. I could say a few things about your kids but I won't. Isnt one of them only 5'5? Dick Vitale I need stats. You telling me that someone is better does not cut it for me. I need statistical data. There is no need to get so upset. It is not good for your body. Stay calm and cool. 8) [/quote] You don't NEED statistical data to evaluate players.. ::)..Its OK...You don't have to believe me....I only have the ability to provide TUITION, ROOM, BOARD & BOOKS for him after next year....thats all...  ;)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1379593" timestamp="1361892603"] I took this thread as just being a thread about supporting one's team and trying to pump up the fan base. Didn't think it was necessary to start debating on who will win the game. There are plenty of threads discussing that topic. [/quote] And nothing can pump up the fan base like a little bit of pot stirring can! I am actually doing you guys a FAVOR! ;D...Relax, man, your guys will do fine...You KNOW they are going to play hard! Just enjoy it and let the chips fall where they may! I just hate that I can't be there to see it! 8)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1379585" timestamp="1361891983"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109809.msg1379580#msg1379580 date=1361891867] BADSANTA, that was awe inspiring...You clearly have pride in your school and community...But tonight...will be the final game...Its been a great run...But it's over...Get ready for track and baseball season... 8) [/quote] Some just can't let it be. Got to have a negative when there is a positive. You are all about balance, huh DV. ::) [/quote] Just giving BADSANTA a hard time... 8) 8)...But you have to admit that you can say all the positive things you want, until you are blue in the face, it still will have zero effect on the outcome of this game...Those Silsbee kids are in for the fight of their life and are facing LONG odds...CAN it be done? Sure, it can.  Doesn't matter what we say on here.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1379581" timestamp="1361891873"] [quote author=Big girl link=topic=109454.msg1379572#msg1379572 date=1361891342] Bosha is the real deal even the Yates coach said so. Do you think that your kids are better Blue Dove? ;) [/quote]Big Girl, my kids are not in competition with your kid.  ;) [/quote] ESPECIALLY not now...Aren't the Little Doves STILL in playoffs? ::) ::) ;D

BADSANTA, that was awe inspiring...You clearly have pride in your school and community...But tonight...will be the final game...Its been a great run...But it's over...Get ready for track and baseball season... 8)

[quote name="Big girl" post="1379518" timestamp="1361885284"] What was Brandon's shooting percentage? Free throw percentage? You cant say he was a better shooter if you dont know what Bosha's percentage is. How many steals did he avg per game? In my opinion Zjori is the complete package. Tell me what his flaws are? ( I know he's not perfect). You said that Brandon was a better defender, how many steals did he average? This is the most accurate way to compare two players. [/quote] Lady, let me explain something to you...I coached Brandon at Ozen, and I have evaluated Bosha this year and last..Chappell is CLEARLY the better player AS A JUNIOR..Thats not to say that Bosha will not or can not reach his potential, because in my estimation, he HAS some upside..He is long, he can shoot it, and is fairly athletic...I like his handle, but he can work on getting it a bit tighter over the summer.  Is he a "lock down" defender? No, but he can keep smaller guards in front of him, which is a good thing....He CAN play on the next level, my only statement was that he WAS NOT the complete package RIGHT NOW...Can he get there? Thats up to him.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1379482" timestamp="1361854090"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109454.msg1379481#msg1379481 date=1361853882] [quote author=Big girl link=topic=109454.msg1379464#msg1379464 date=1361851011] LMBO......It is obvious that Blue Dove does not know anything about basketball. I played in college and we were required to run cross country. I even saw a posting where he said that Johnson was the only person on HJ's team that could create his own shot. LOL. Has he ever watched Bosha play? He is the compete package. He can shoot, he can drive, he is a great perimeter defender and he can hit the 3. Either Blue Dove is blind or he has never attended a HJ game. Wow!!!!! ;) [/quote] Sorry, but Bosha is not the complete package...Good player, but he has a few areas to improve upon...The fact that he did not lead his team to at LEAST a SECOND place finish IN 3A, tells a tale.  He definitely has the tools, but he needs to work hard this spring and summer....Trust me when I tell you...NOT the COMPLETE package. [/quote] Do tell, Dickie.  As an example, tell me what Brandon Chapelle had in his junior year that Mr. Bosha doesnt have? [/quote] As a junior, Brandon Chappell was the sixth man on an undefeated (36-0) Class 4A State Championship team, for starters...He was a better shooter, ball handler and playmaker than Bosha...And a MUCH better defender...NOT that Bosha will not GET there at some point, because he is a good player.  But Bosha was no comparison to Brandon Chappell as a junior...Not close...

[quote name="Big girl" post="1379464" timestamp="1361851011"] LMBO......It is obvious that Blue Dove does not know anything about basketball. I played in college and we were required to run cross country. I even saw a posting where he said that Johnson was the only person on HJ's team that could create his own shot. LOL. Has he ever watched Bosha play? He is the compete package. He can shoot, he can drive, he is a great perimeter defender and he can hit the 3. Either Blue Dove is blind or he has never attended a HJ game. Wow!!!!! ;) [/quote] Sorry, but Bosha is not the complete package...Good player, but he has a few areas to improve upon...The fact that he did not lead his team to at LEAST a SECOND place finish IN 3A, tells a tale.  He definitely has the tools, but he needs to work hard this spring and summer....Trust me when I tell you...NOT the COMPLETE package.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1379477" timestamp="1361853415"] [quote author=no-look link=topic=109731.msg1379451#msg1379451 date=1361847032] The big question is there any good eating places in the neighborhood? [/quote] Sure Clyde Drexler's family has a barbecue business nearby. Subway, French's Chicken, downtown is about[color=red][size=14pt] 2 miles .[/size][/color]...................... [/quote] Drexler's BBQ is out of business....THANK GOD! That place was AWFUL! YUK! :-[.....Big Girl is really hating on Yates, isn't she?  8)

[quote name="OvieDotson" post="1379434" timestamp="1361845404"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109680.msg1379005#msg1379005 date=1361735423] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109680.msg1378989#msg1378989 date=1361733907] [quote author=Honest Abe link=topic=109680.msg1378975#msg1378975 date=1361732600] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109680.msg1378968#msg1378968 date=1361731685] Abe, can I ask you a serious question? What do you think that Brian English would have done with THAT bunch at Central? [/quote]That's a hard question. That's a lot of talent to coach! ;D Don't know if Coach E would implement his style of play/coaching or play a more up tempo style. His record shows that he can do more with less, and suggests that Central would still be playing if he were their coach. I didn't see the game (obviously), so it's hard to say what would have happened in THAT game. He may have done a better job at adjusting (during the game) to the matchup against a team like Georgetown. Sometimes though, the coach can put his players in the right position, but kids gotta execute that plan. What do you think? [/quote] I think you hit the nail on the head! In the playoffs its ALL about coaching adjustments and match ups...I know what Coach E can do adjustment wise, and I also know what the Central coach lacks in that area...NOT that Coach Lee is just that terrible, but Coach English is just that much better.  I do understand that this Central team is a very young group, but with that you also must implement another coaching dynamic, and thats taking advantage of the "too young to know any better" factor, and allow them to play loose as well... English HAS done more with less, and I feel that with more he would DO more!  ;) [/quote]DV this is an interesting comment. Did you know your dad started 4-5 freshmen on varsity during one of his coaching gigs?  He allowed those freshmen the latitude to screw up but learn from their mistakes, and probably the best contribution he made was to allow those freshmen to play to[color=red] their strengths[/color]. His system matched the players he had, not the system trying to mold the players. [/quote] You just can't let anything alone, can you DV?  I wonder what you had to say about Central when your "brother" was coaching and they never went more than one round in the playoffs?  Did you run him down?  And by the way, why did you leave BISD, and not take Boutte's team? [/quote] OK one question at a time, please!! 8)...When my brother was coaching at Central, it was hard for him to compete against Ozen while Boutte was at the helm, always finishing in that runner up spot in district. He had good teams, but he NEVER got the talent that is at Central now...NOT EVER..And as a matter of fact I DID give him fits about not beating Ozen, but he did a good job with what he had to work with, while being constantly stabbed in the back by his loyal assistant, Coach Lee...(Yes I said it)..I left BISD to become a head coach in Houston. I WOULD have taken over at Ozen had I not been in MID SEASON when Boutte left! 8)...any more questions? ::)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1379349" timestamp="1361831142"] [quote author=DXTR link=topic=109731.msg1379348#msg1379348 date=1361831072] Silsbee.  198 Yates.  196 [/quote] Maybe a bit high but I would not be surprised if both teams hit the century mark. ;) [/quote] Yeah right... ::)..If they did the final score would be Yates 131, Silsbee 101...STILL 30!  ;D ;D 8)

[quote name="5gallonbucket" post="1379253" timestamp="1361814763"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109731.msg1379231#msg1379231 date=1361809731] Truth is folks and this may sound harsh, but the Yates fan base is not really USED to winning in basketball..They were a football power for many years and had that same "swag" about their football program back in the day...This does not excuse inappropriate behaviors by any means, but its still kind of "new" to them...HJ fans have been used to winning basketball, and have a tendancy to be less cocky about their teams success...This has become their time to "shine" over the last few years and they are doing just that..Doesn't make it right, but its one of the major reasons they do it...[b]They can't act like they have been there before, because before a few years ago...They really hadn't. ;)[/b][/quote] I was on a college team that won our conference tourney and made it to the big dance,  but i didnt act inappropriate nor did my teammates or fans and that was the [b]first[/b] time our university won the tournement in 17 years.  WINNING OR LOSING should not dictate how you act as a human. [/quote] From a FAN perspective, though, not a player or coach....Fans have NO REAL boundaries, really...We both know how they are SUPPOSED to act, but it does not always happen like that, especially when they are not USED to winning like they are..

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1379240" timestamp="1361811218"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109731.msg1379236#msg1379236 date=1361810471] [quote author=mytwocents link=topic=109731.msg1379232#msg1379232 date=1361809884] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109731.msg1379231#msg1379231 date=1361809731] Truth is folks and this may sound harsh, but the Yates fan base is not really USED to winning in basketball..They were a football power for many years and had that same "swag" about their football program back in the day...This does not excuse inappropriate behaviors by any means, but its still kind of "new" to them...HJ fans have been used to winning basketball, and have a tendancy to be less cocky about their teams success...This has become their time to "shine" over the last few years and they are doing just that..Doesn't make it right, but its one of the major reasons they do it...They can't act like they have been there before, because before a few years ago...They really hadn't. ;) [/quote] You always have an excuse huh don't ya Dickie. [/quote] If you ever really learn how to read, you would see that I said, "ITS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR"...Just trying to shed a little light on here for some people about the situation... [/quote] Just because you say it's not excuse doesn't make it not an excuse. I can sit in the ocean and say I'm not wet but it won't change the fact that I'm wet lol. [/quote] OK I am done talking to you, for that was the DUMBEST statement ever placed on any message board EVER! I'm off to the film room now...You have FORCED me to get some work done...THANK YOU! :o 8)

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1379232" timestamp="1361809884"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109731.msg1379231#msg1379231 date=1361809731] Truth is folks and this may sound harsh, but the Yates fan base is not really USED to winning in basketball..They were a football power for many years and had that same "swag" about their football program back in the day...This does not excuse inappropriate behaviors by any means, but its still kind of "new" to them...HJ fans have been used to winning basketball, and have a tendancy to be less cocky about their teams success...This has become their time to "shine" over the last few years and they are doing just that..Doesn't make it right, but its one of the major reasons they do it...They can't act like they have been there before, because before a few years ago...They really hadn't. ;) [/quote] You always have an excuse huh don't ya Dickie. [/quote] If you ever really learn how to read, you would see that I said, "ITS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR"...Just trying to shed a little light on here for some people about the situation...