Dick Vitale

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1378509" timestamp="1361605474"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109733.msg1378505#msg1378505 date=1361604114] It does not even matter...They could play at Silsbee Middle School, and Yates would STILL beat that team by 30....OK maybe just 20 at SMS! ;D [/quote] Just so I understand you DV, you taking Yates -30? I'll take Silsbee getting 30, how much you want to wager? [/quote] Naw, not plus 30, because I think honestly Silsbee is a bit tougher than HJ, and would not go down without swinging...It will be at least 20 though, due to Yates' depth, and Silsbee's lack of any real size.

It does not even matter...They could play at Silsbee Middle School, and Yates would STILL beat that team by 30....OK maybe just 20 at SMS! ;D

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1378053" timestamp="1361566317"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109663.msg1377965#msg1377965 date=1361558719] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=109663.msg1377963#msg1377963 date=1361558497] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109663.msg1377928#msg1377928 date=1361556158] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109663.msg1377918#msg1377918 date=1361555528] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=109663.msg1377908#msg1377908 date=1361554472] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109663.msg1377902#msg1377902 date=1361554301] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=109663.msg1377900#msg1377900 date=1361554028] Now 3A can see what 4A has been dealing with. You just can't compete on an even playing field with teams like Yates that recruit. Come on, a 7'4 from another country coming to play at Yates. Gimme a break.  Quit hiding recruiting under the "Wise coaches AAU, but they're not Yates players" or the "Yates is a magnet school" garbage. [/quote] Its not the coach's fault that he is approached by handlers, who are looking for the better programs to put their kids ;) [/quote] Some coaches simply have character and ethics while others do not. It is what it is. [/quote][b]If Nederland is offered a 7'4 kid, I guess they gonna say, "no , go to PN-G?"[/b][/quote] EXCELLENT POINT! Hmmmmm, I wonder what they would say? ::) ::) [/quote] There are better schools in the nation for athletics, and we all know there are better high schools in the nation for an education. So why would someone come into the country and pick Jack Yates.? [/quote] Perhaps you didn't know this so I will tell you...Yates has one of the TOP schools of communications programs in TEXAS..They work closely with the University of Houston's communication department, AND they serve as the training ground for most of the area media outlets...Shocking, isn't it? ::) ::)...That could be ONE reason... 8) [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  ;D :D ;D ;D ;D.......please, you can't be serious. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] I was being sarcastic about that being the reason, but the magnet school of communications IS a really good one...Phylicia Rashad (Claire Huxtable on the Cosby Show) and her sister Debbie Allen are alums that back the school financially still...

[quote name="ST413" post="1378050" timestamp="1361565937"] DV I don't think meant anything deragatory towards him.  I believe it was more towards the language those players must have used. [/quote] You may be right, I read it again, but, just in case he THOUGHT about saying something negative, he should re-think that one.... ;)

[quote name="Team Game" post="1378007" timestamp="1361562201"] The communication on display during and after the game last night by the Yates guys was outstanding.  The vocabulary, just incredible!  The Reverend Yates would have been so proud. [/quote] Don't know you , but you are going to keep Rev. Jack Yates name out of your mouth...Don't know what you meant, don't care, but THAT name you need to not refer to in any negative way. So serious. EDIT** Upon further review, I see your statement meant no harm...I recant the previous statement... 8)

[quote name="5 on 5" post="1377963" timestamp="1361558497"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109663.msg1377928#msg1377928 date=1361556158] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109663.msg1377918#msg1377918 date=1361555528] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=109663.msg1377908#msg1377908 date=1361554472] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109663.msg1377902#msg1377902 date=1361554301] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=109663.msg1377900#msg1377900 date=1361554028] Now 3A can see what 4A has been dealing with. You just can't compete on an even playing field with teams like Yates that recruit. Come on, a 7'4 from another country coming to play at Yates. Gimme a break.  Quit hiding recruiting under the "Wise coaches AAU, but they're not Yates players" or the "Yates is a magnet school" garbage. [/quote] Its not the coach's fault that he is approached by handlers, who are looking for the better programs to put their kids ;) [/quote] Some coaches simply have character and ethics while others do not. It is what it is. [/quote][b]If Nederland is offered a 7'4 kid, I guess they gonna say, "no , go to PN-G?"[/b][/quote] EXCELLENT POINT! Hmmmmm, I wonder what they would say? ::) ::) [/quote] There are better schools in the nation for athletics, and we all know there are better high schools in the nation for an education. So why would someone come into the country and pick Jack Yates.? [/quote] Perhaps you didn't know this so I will tell you...Yates has one of the TOP schools of communications programs in TEXAS..They work closely with the University of Houston's communication department, AND they serve as the training ground for most of the area media outlets...Shocking, isn't it? ::) ::)...That could be ONE reason... 8)

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1377955" timestamp="1361557987"] [quote author=BADSANTA link=topic=109663.msg1377950#msg1377950 date=1361557540] Yates has a team full of recruits and a bully for a coach! Wise thinks he owns Houston. Yates isn't the best school in Houston. FB Bush, FB Travis, Seven Lakes, and North Shore are better without recruits every year! [/quote]Here's the difference: Those schools you named are NOT in Houston. They are in the suburbs. Do you live in Houston? No. You live in Cypress. [/quote] Could not have said it better myself, Abe!  And furthermore, North Shore and FB Bush are the ONLY LEGITIMATE PROGRAMS of the ones you named. The others are "IF a player lands there" driven. Watch how BAD FB Travis gets after this season... ;)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1377918" timestamp="1361555528"] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=109663.msg1377908#msg1377908 date=1361554472] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109663.msg1377902#msg1377902 date=1361554301] [quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=109663.msg1377900#msg1377900 date=1361554028] Now 3A can see what 4A has been dealing with. You just can't compete on an even playing field with teams like Yates that recruit. Come on, a 7'4 from another country coming to play at Yates. Gimme a break.  Quit hiding recruiting under the "Wise coaches AAU, but they're not Yates players" or the "Yates is a magnet school" garbage. [/quote] Its not the coach's fault that he is approached by handlers, who are looking for the better programs to put their kids ;) [/quote] Some coaches simply have character and ethics while others do not. It is what it is. [/quote][b]If Nederland is offered a 7'4 kid, I guess they gonna say, "no , go to PN-G?"[/b][/quote] EXCELLENT POINT! Hmmmmm, I wonder what they would say? ::) ::)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1377915" timestamp="1361555168"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109587.msg1377880#msg1377880 date=1361551546] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=109587.msg1377749#msg1377749 date=1361540864] [quote author=Kountzer link=topic=109587.msg1377697#msg1377697 date=1361509745] Coach Brazos, Coach Carmen Stewart, Danny Thomas.  They were all at Lamar Fleming when I was there.  My cousins kept me up to date on them when I went back to Silsbee. [/quote]Actually, Coach Brazos, Stewart, & Yates were at E.O.Smith first, the feeder school for Wheatley. Danny attended Smith maybe one year and went to Fleming Junior. [/quote] I don't know if you knew this, but Coach Brazos was the SOLE REASON my father left Madison to go to Kashmere to coach. You know he was like a father to my dad...He told him about his pancreatic cancer, and asked that he come back to the north side and get that program where it needed to be, because it was in "bad shape"...My father never told anyone outside of family why he went there...Coach Brazos passed in September of 1999, and Stewart died last year... [/quote]Man, we could start a whole new thread on these people. Last time I saw Stewart :'( was in high school.  I'll never forget after he became a counselor,  he showed me a wad of money. He said "son, just stay in school." I stayed in school but still ain't had the money he had. ;)  And Frankie B,  :'( the man was like a God among basketball coaches. [/quote] Hey man, when Coach Brazos was still coaching at Kashmere, my sophmore season, we were playing against them in a tournament in Fort Worth, and I had hit four threes by halftime and had 16 points, but I don't think I took a shot after about the 3:00 minute mark in the 2nd qtr....This man CAME IN OUR LOCKER ROOM at halftime and started first fussing at my dad for not getting me the ball at the end of the half, THEN fussed at me about not taking over the game!! He said, "nevermind being a 10th grader, son, you need to KEEP SHOOTING the ball, BOY!! What is wrong with you, son? SHOOT IT!" I never forgot that moment, and I never will... ;D ;D

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1377891" timestamp="1361553035"] Let me say what some don't want to hear.................... Does he anyone know what Vince McMahon's entrance them is on WWE? That is the odds of someone from Region 3 beating Yates!!!! [/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D..That is EXPERIENCE talking right there!!!  8)

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1377886" timestamp="1361552713"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109663.msg1377885#msg1377885 date=1361552472] [quote author=Farmer Fran link=topic=109663.msg1377884#msg1377884 date=1361552195] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109663.msg1377881#msg1377881 date=1361551711] [quote author=Farmer Fran link=topic=109663.msg1377879#msg1377879 date=1361551530] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109663.msg1377867#msg1377867 date=1361550957] You people on here for the most part are just not being realistic...ASK HJ!! They are a really GOOD 3A squad that could LIKELY win region 3 in 4A as well...Its not worship, its just common sense...And furthermore as far as the negotiating goes, those of you that have never coached before have NO CLUE how it really works...Its a BIG part of the playoff process...You DO NOT want to play in a venue that your opponent has played in and you have not, IF you can help it...Playoff games are different...BUT..I will be on here all day trying to explain to some of you, so nevermind.... ::) ::) [/quote] You don't have to explain anything. I am not saying Silsbee is going to beat JY, they have to beat Kashmere to get that chance. You come here and constantly belittle teams that you claim that are not worthy of even being on the floor with Yates. I know that you do it just to get everybody's jocks in a knot, but Dang DV!!! Enough is enough!! [/quote] Well just accept it!  :D...BLUEDOVE and I have BEEN telling all you this since last year's re-alignment, but NO ONE believed us! You will all  learn very soon! Ask Hardin Jefferson....They will tell you! ;) [/quote] I will never accept the fact that you a "supposed" coach would come on a message board and belittle certain teams. [/quote] No sir, not "supposed" that is what I am...I come on here for fun and laughs with friends in my down time...I am not above talking hoops with my friends along with some other people who happen to know very little about what is actually going on, but I try to educate when I can... :D [/quote] remember Dickie- try harder [/quote] Stevenash, that was not a very humble statement? I am not above chatting with people that are not my collegues in the coaching profession...HUMILITY at its finest! ;) 8)..I am still a work in progress, nash! ::)

[quote name="Farmer Fran" post="1377884" timestamp="1361552195"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109663.msg1377881#msg1377881 date=1361551711] [quote author=Farmer Fran link=topic=109663.msg1377879#msg1377879 date=1361551530] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109663.msg1377867#msg1377867 date=1361550957] You people on here for the most part are just not being realistic...ASK HJ!! They are a really GOOD 3A squad that could LIKELY win region 3 in 4A as well...Its not worship, its just common sense...And furthermore as far as the negotiating goes, those of you that have never coached before have NO CLUE how it really works...Its a BIG part of the playoff process...You DO NOT want to play in a venue that your opponent has played in and you have not, IF you can help it...Playoff games are different...BUT..I will be on here all day trying to explain to some of you, so nevermind.... ::) ::) [/quote] You don't have to explain anything. I am not saying Silsbee is going to beat JY, they have to beat Kashmere to get that chance. You come here and constantly belittle teams that you claim that are not worthy of even being on the floor with Yates. I know that you do it just to get everybody's jocks in a knot, but Dang DV!!! Enough is enough!! [/quote] Well just accept it!  :D...BLUEDOVE and I have BEEN telling all you this since last year's re-alignment, but NO ONE believed us! You will all  learn very soon! Ask Hardin Jefferson....They will tell you! ;) [/quote] I will never accept the fact that you a "supposed" coach would come on a message board and belittle certain teams. [/quote] No sir, not "supposed" that is what I am...I come on here for fun and laughs with friends in my down time...I am not above talking hoops with my friends along with some other people who happen to know very little about what is actually going on, but I try to educate when I can... :D

FYI, what you are doing is a noble thing...Really it is..HOWEVER if there is not enough exposure with their high school team and summer ball, they are probably just not good enough to play at the next level...Remember less than 3% of high school players even play at the next level. If they are out there, trust me, we know about them...and if we don't, luckily there are people like yourself that hip us to them at times, but it is rare...Remember, it's OUR JOB to know... ;)....Keep doing what you are doing though, because its a good thing, but just know your battle is an uphill one...

[quote name="Farmer Fran" post="1377879" timestamp="1361551530"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109663.msg1377867#msg1377867 date=1361550957] You people on here for the most part are just not being realistic...ASK HJ!! They are a really GOOD 3A squad that could LIKELY win region 3 in 4A as well...Its not worship, its just common sense...And furthermore as far as the negotiating goes, those of you that have never coached before have NO CLUE how it really works...Its a BIG part of the playoff process...You DO NOT want to play in a venue that your opponent has played in and you have not, IF you can help it...Playoff games are different...BUT..I will be on here all day trying to explain to some of you, so nevermind.... ::) ::) [/quote] You don't have to explain anything. I am not saying Silsbee is going to beat JY, they have to beat Kashmere to get that chance. You come here and constantly belittle teams that you claim that are not worthy of even being on the floor with Yates. I know that you do it just to get everybody's jocks in a knot, but Dang DV!!! Enough is enough!! [/quote] Well just accept it!  :D...BLUEDOVE and I have BEEN telling all you this since last year's re-alignment, but NO ONE believed us! You will all  learn very soon! Ask Hardin Jefferson....They will tell you! ;)

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1377749" timestamp="1361540864"] [quote author=Kountzer link=topic=109587.msg1377697#msg1377697 date=1361509745] Coach Brazos, Coach Carmen Stewart, Danny Thomas.  They were all at Lamar Fleming when I was there.  My cousins kept me up to date on them when I went back to Silsbee. [/quote]Actually, Coach Brazos, Stewart, & Yates were at E.O.Smith first, the feeder school for Wheatley. Danny attended Smith maybe one year and went to Fleming Junior. [/quote] I don't know if you knew this, but Coach Brazos was the SOLE REASON my father left Madison to go to Kashmere to coach. You know he was like a father to my dad...He told him about his pancreatic cancer, and asked that he come back to the north side and get that program where it needed to be, because it was in "bad shape"...My father never told anyone outside of family why he went there...Coach Brazos passed in September of 1999, and Stewart died last year...

[quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="1377865" timestamp="1361550869"] I don't think that I have ever been so proud of my Hawks as I was last night. I have to say Dickie V is 100% correct, they are as good of a high school team as I have ever seen. They should be, they are the best that Houston has to offer. Hawks were in great shape until we lost our post presence. The final score was not a true indication of how close the game was. Great job by the coaching staff they put together a great game plan that made their press look silly sometimes.I cant say enough about the young men on the floor last night. They were NOT intimidated by them one bit. IMOHO I think that we played our best game of the year. You truly played with great resolve and the heart of a champion.......Great Job Hawks! [/quote] Experience is the GREATEST teacher, Poppabearstarr! ;)....Some just think the world STOPS at the Jefferson/Hardin County line! 8)...Honestly, Yates has no business even BEING in 3A, because they are moving right back up after next year...It was a move for football...an experiment...Should have never been.

You people on here for the most part are just not being realistic...ASK HJ!! They are a really GOOD 3A squad that could LIKELY win region 3 in 4A as well...Its not worship, its just common sense...And furthermore as far as the negotiating goes, those of you that have never coached before have NO CLUE how it really works...Its a BIG part of the playoff process...You DO NOT want to play in a venue that your opponent has played in and you have not, IF you can help it...Playoff games are different...BUT..I will be on here all day trying to explain to some of you, so nevermind.... ::) ::)

Whatever! You meant HJ, with your shady self!! Typical kid! Crawfishing.... ::)

You ever hear of waking up a grizzly bear with a stick in your hand the size of a small twig? That's what Silsbee just did! Not smart...now instead of getting beat by 30, Yates will likely put 45-50 on them!!  ;D

Are you insane? That's EXACTLY what you said!! :o

Carmen Stewart coached at Yates, not Kashmere.

Listen...Silsbee has had a really good season...They are tough, fearless, and they play hard...They are entirely too SMALL for this Yates team that actually utilizes their size...It will be 20+, just like tonight against HJ...If Silsbee trys to play FAST, it may be a 30+ loss for Silsbee...Silsbee has not seen anything like what they will see if they play Yates...A BIG team that plays just as fast as they do...Copy this, write it down, take a picture...20 PLUS.. ;)

[quote name="BADSANTA" post="1377643" timestamp="1361504936"] Silsbee has a very different type of swagger than HJ!! [/quote] You're right....and that "country" swagger will get them beat by 40 instead of 30! 8)

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1377456" timestamp="1361492345"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=109588.msg1376600#msg1376600 date=1361378996] No. Next question.... ::) ::)...Are you guys serious? :o...We all knew that Yates would rip through region 3-3A when they announced the re-alignment...Don't act surprised now! 8) [/quote] I'm so gonna enjoy calling you out on everything you said about Yates when they lose. I really am Dickie. [/quote] What was that? Crickets? I thought so....It was a 30 point nailbiter, right? ::) ::)..I am not new to this! This is what I do....This is how I EAT! ;)

I understand all of the HJ fans optimism, but.....You got beat by 30....in a playoff game...and some are saying that Silsbee can hang with these boys from Yates?  ::) ::) ::)....Seriously guys.... ::)