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I dont think expelled and suspended is the same as handcuffed and arrested....just my opinion

"dang president wouldn't get involved if a white kid got arrested for building a clock that people assumed was a bomb!!!!"
 
...but wait...that would never happen because if the kid weren't muslim everybody would have said "hey cool clock" and he wouldn't have been arrested
too many paradoxes here, by brain hurts...I better listen to some more Rush Limbaugh and Toby Keith songs and get myself more smarter

I'm not a fan of QX, but I know this ISN'T the first time he's done this....just the first time it's made news...we all know the media decides what it want's it's sheep to see.

tragic situation. I just hate how everything turns into a political/seperation agenda.
Remember "United we Stand, Divided we fall"?
 
Division is everywhere now.

tragic situation. I just hate how everything turns into a political/seperation agenda.
Remember "United we Stand, Divided we fall"?
 
Division is everywhere now.

​In that situation then, you're probably right because white guy saying "act like us" is "offending" someone. I have no issue with what Haley said. The best way to offend someone is to try not to offend them IMO...be you, get to the point. I'd rather someone tell me "Hey, I don't like blacks" opposed to someone who's  pretending. You can't say, or do anything without offending SOMEONE these days.

​In that situation then, you're probably right because white guy saying "act like us" is "offending" someone. I have no issue with what Haley said. The best way to offend someone is to try not to offend them IMO...be you, get to the point. I'd rather someone tell me "Hey, I don't like blacks" opposed to someone who's  pretending. You can't say, or do anything without offending SOMEONE these days.

I don't see why. It's not offensive. It's the truth and most people don't want to hear it.  Truth...you see more black players with entourages, in strip clubs throwing money, blowing money on fancy cars, etc.....They make it to the league and it's "I made it, I'm partying and buying everyone a house and a car".......ignoring the fact that your average career is about 4 years and you dont have anything to fall back on......While most of the white guys make it, get married, settle down.......what's wrong with what he said? If Young or Aikaman said it...it really wouldn't make sense if you thought about it. Why would he tell them to "Act like the black guys"?

​Good points, but it also has to do with Class......I grew up with with Whites, Hispanics, Vietnamese, etc...and the thing we had in common...we were poor. So I can't say I flocked to the people that looked like me, I flocked to the people I could relate too.

I remember when Bill was on everyone's "Good guy" list for "telling the truth" about blacks...I called him a hypocrite then......funny how everyone FINALLY saw it. lol

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​Good points, but it also has to do with Class......I grew up with with Whites, Hispanics, Vietnamese, etc...and the thing we had in common...we were poor. So I can't say I flocked to the people that looked like me, I flocked to the people I could relate too.

I also think Thug is the new "N" word.....Heck, Richard Sherman graduated from Stanford and he was a Thug after an interview? All these facebook posts from weird sites "Thug gets embarrsed by old man"...."Thug gets this...that" all reference blacks. As far as race relations...describe "Better".....I think a lot of postering went on for years.  For instance...Sandra Bland. Many(non blacks) say..well she should've just did what the officer told her....but I'm pretty sure the conversations and apporach to whites and blacks are different....I got pulled over on the way to Austin.......sat in the car a good 10 mins, looked out the window and asked what was going on....found out later he was waiting for another squad car(Me and my 15 year old son in the car)....before I even knew what I was being pulled over for I was handcuffed and sat on the side of the road like a spectacle as people drove by...Again, I asked "Sir, what is going on?"....he told me to chill out....and I just asked him could he move me to the back and not talk down on me in front of my son. He told me if I be quiet he'd let my son sit in the front seat instead of the backs seat with me....finally the K9's came...searched my car.....when it was all said and done...I was doing 55 in a 45 and got off with a warning. That's the type of harrasment I"M used to, and it gets old.......
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I'm sure some will disagree with me, but I feel like "thug" is the new "n" word.  To me race relations aren't any better because it is only discussed during times of tension, after some crazy event.

​North Shore and Westfield run the ball, true, but not that power run game that Katy and Cy-Ranch used, those 2 teams run more out of the shotgun formation....in those 3 games(1 vs Cy-Ranch, 2 vs Katy) Manvel's D forced 1 punt. I wouldn't say they did well against Pearland. A soph rb went for 160 against the Manvel D. It gets overlooked because Manvel won the game. They have a saying in Katy, "Do not ignore in victory what you wouldnt ignore in Defeat"....Things like that can't be ignored. Manvel may have the best secondary, but are they physical enough when a Qb, Fullback and TE turn the corner attacking them as lead blockers? I just don't see them getting past Katy. Their best bet is for them to somehow end up D1. This Katy team will be better than the 2007 team and is VERY experienced. 3 Year starters that went 16 games every year...those extra weeks of practice are a huge advantage.

​Not ready to make that bold prediction....Manvel has yet to prove the can stop a team that can move the chains constantly on the ground.....Cy-Ranch in 2012....Katy in 13 and 14, their defense took beatings.....bad match up for Manvel and this Katy D is full of 3 year and a couple of 4 year starters....will be one of, if not the best defense in the state.

Probable cause: No
Illegal knife: No
Injuries from prior auto accident: No
Injuried himself in the van: No
 
 
this is 2015....times have changed :rolleyes:

Probable cause: No
Illegal knife: No
Injuries from prior auto accident: No
Injuried himself in the van: No
 
 
this is 2015....times have changed :rolleyes:

And the knife was NOT a swithblade...and isn't against the law to carry.

Sadly it's normal.....my 9 year old was watching the news and asked "What happened" I told her A cop shot someone. She asked "On purpose?"... I said yes. Her reply was "Why is he in trouble?", cops shoot people all the time"...Now the fact that she thinks this is normal is because it's on the news every day...now it's up to me to explain to her the other layers to these situtations...the same conversations my grandparents had with me. I have to give my son the same speeches they gave me to make sure he comes home alive....nothing has really changed

Thank you...I try to be. My Mother (And wife) always say communication is important. You can make your point or voice your opinion without shooting down someone elses....

First...it was an pre exsisting injury from a car accident.....LIE
Next....he did it to himself banging in the van.....LIE
 
"Breaking News: Thugs looting CVS in Baltimore"
 
Love it.
 
$10 that HIS criminal history is brought into play now.

first thing I want to know WHY you ran...maybe you have drugs or weapons on you....Maybe in some instances(personal experience) you didnt do anything and you know this cop and what his reputation is...consider this...growing up, we all "KNEW" the cops...we had nicknames for them, we knew their reputations. We called one "Carl Lewis" because he would sit on the hood of the car while his partner cruised the streets and when he saw you, he would jump off the hood and run after you...he was pretty fast. Then we had THIS guy who made the news recently:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/houston-police-officer-arrested-by-federal-agents/32237590
 
This guy would pull you over, no reason, what ever money, loose change you had, he would take you. Then arrest you and you had to sit around and guess what you were arrested for until you faced a judge...it was like a game show. The cops in these areas know everyone on a first name basis...they know your family and the more they "Jump out" on you and find nothing...the more irrated they get..that's when the beating's drug planting and all the extra stuff takes place...they want to make your live miserable.
 
Now...if you break your spine by running and falling...pretty much your fault. But if they beat the ish out of you because you ran, that's not justified....running should not be a death sentence.
 
Again, In my opinion the issue that needs to be addresed is WHY we run, and realize that the interaction between cops and civillians is different in different areas...like I say, I considered myself a good kid, but based on where I lived.....I was always treated like a suspect first. When you're constantly treated like a suspect, you lose respect for the cops...not saying it's right, but it's a reality. Not everyone in the "Hood" is a bad person, but we're all guilty until proven innocent. Growing up there were some cops you knew to run from and then there were some cops you were happy to see. Thetragichippy, I don't know you from Bob, but you seem like a cool guy but I'm willing to bet if you and me were pulled over for the exact same thing...the interaction would be totally different. Because of my past dealing with bad cops...I'm going to be nervous and sweaty......they will probably approach my car cautiously, hand on weapon because of my appearance making things uneasy for both of us.....you can probaly say things to the cop that I can't say lol...that's just the way it is...it's a reality but as long as we try to pretend that these things don't  happen, we will alway be at odds.

if only the real world was like HS Football forums where we could all sit down and have civil conversations :)

Sadly it's normal.....my 9 year old was watching the news and asked "What happened" I told her A cop shot someone. She asked "On purpose?"... I said yes. Her reply was "Why is he in trouble?", cops shoot people all the time"...Now the fact that she thinks this is normal is because it's on the news every day...now it's up to me to explain to her the other layers to these situtations...the same conversations my grandparents had with me. I have to give my son the same speeches they gave me to make sure he comes home alive....nothing has really changed

first thing I want to know WHY you ran...maybe you have drugs or weapons on you....Maybe in some instances(personal experience) you didnt do anything and you know this cop and what his reputation is...consider this...growing up, we all "KNEW" the cops...we had nicknames for them, we knew their reputations. We called one "Carl Lewis" because he would sit on the hood of the car while his partner cruised the streets and when he saw you, he would jump off the hood and run after you...he was pretty fast. Then we had THIS guy who made the news recently:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/houston-police-officer-arrested-by-federal-agents/32237590
 
This guy would pull you over, no reason, what ever money, loose change you had, he would take you. Then arrest you and you had to sit around and guess what you were arrested for until you faced a judge...it was like a game show. The cops in these areas know everyone on a first name basis...they know your family and the more they "Jump out" on you and find nothing...the more irrated they get..that's when the beating's drug planting and all the extra stuff takes place...they want to make your live miserable.
 
Now...if you break your spine by running and falling...pretty much your fault. But if they beat the ish out of you because you ran, that's not justified....running should not be a death sentence.
 
Again, In my opinion the issue that needs to be addresed is WHY we run, and realize that the interaction between cops and civillians is different in different areas...like I say, I considered myself a good kid, but based on where I lived.....I was always treated like a suspect first. When you're constantly treated like a suspect, you lose respect for the cops...not saying it's right, but it's a reality. Not everyone in the "Hood" is a bad person, but we're all guilty until proven innocent. Growing up there were some cops you knew to run from and then there were some cops you were happy to see. Thetragichippy, I don't know you from Bob, but you seem like a cool guy but I'm willing to bet if you and me were pulled over for the exact same thing...the interaction would be totally different. Because of my past dealing with bad cops...I'm going to be nervous and sweaty......they will probably approach my car cautiously, hand on weapon because of my appearance making things uneasy for both of us.....you can probaly say things to the cop that I can't say lol...that's just the way it is...it's a reality but as long as we try to pretend that these things don't  happen, we will alway be at odds.