Only one House Dem voted in favor of voter ID, proof of citizenship in US elections

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[Reagan]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

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Democrats!  🤦‍♂️

[Reagan]

The Dems CANNOT allow this to pass because it would hard for them to win anything ever again!  

[tvc184]

40 minutes ago, Reagan said:

The Dems CANNOT allow this to pass because it would hard for them to win anything ever again!  

It certainly brings into question such a strong opposition.

NO!! We cannot allow people to identify themselves when they vote! 

Of course the same person has to have a photo ID for almost anything in life. 

[UT alum]

14 hours ago, Reagan said:

Democrats!  🤦‍♂️

Still no proof illegals affect outcomes. Dems voted against PHOTO ID, not voter ID. Voter ID has always been part of a remarkably accurate and transparent election process. Find the evidence otherwise. You can’t because there is none. Ergo, all efforts to “clean” the system are disguised attempts at vote suppression. They don’t care how, just reduce turnout. 

[LumRaiderFan]

13 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Still no proof illegals affect outcomes. Dems voted against PHOTO ID, not voter ID. Voter ID has always been part of a remarkably accurate and transparent election process. Find the evidence otherwise. You can’t because there is none. Ergo, all efforts to “clean” the system are disguised attempts at vote suppression. They don’t care how, just reduce turnout. 

Nonsense, it's not voter suppression.

Only white liberals believe that the poor and downtrodden don't have the ability to get an ID.

[OlDawg]

Maybe a newsflash to some, but the Constitution doesn’t guarantee the right to vote for President. In fact, if a State decided they didn’t want to vote for the Office of the President position, SCOTUS would have to turn itself into pretzels to make them.

The Constitution and other Amendments and rulings only guarantee that if one person in the state is allowed, all must be equally allowed within rules set by the State.

As a libertarian, I’m not against photo ID for voting. I think it’s pretty common sense. But, if required, the burden should be on the State to provide a uniform, acceptable form of ID. The burden shouldn’t be on the individual.

Texas offers a free EIC card for voting. They even have mobile units for folks that might have transportation issues. I don’t know about all the other States.

Of course, as I mentioned to @baddog, if the voting machines/tabulators/officials have integrity issues, photo ID’s are kind of a moot point.

[thetragichippy]

48 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Dems voted against PHOTO ID, not voter ID

I work at a bank, possibly protecting YOUR money if you use a bank. 

To open an account we require two forms of ID, which 1st form is typically a DL or State ID.  

How would you like of the bank gave away your money because someone stole your wallet, grabbed your Social security card, came to the bank pretending to be you and the bank gave him 10 grand out of your account? I bet you and every other Dem would support photo ID when it comes to taking money from your account. 

Nothing is fraud proof, including photo id, but it helps.....just like the wall helps but people, with time, can figure out a way around it. 

The newest fraud is stealing bank statements and ordering a fake DL with your info and their picture....then walking into a bank you bank out in a different town, they claim to be traveling and get a couple thousand to stay under radar.....They can do that at a few different banks before they are caught.  It is difficult to claim someone is not who they claim to be,,,,,,because if you are wrong, it's a bad look.....

This will pass the senate

[UT alum]

3 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

I work at a bank, possibly protecting YOUR money if you use a bank. 

To open an account we require two forms of ID, which 1st form is typically a DL or State ID.  

How would you like of the bank gave away your money because someone stole your wallet, grabbed your Social security card, came to the bank pretending to be you and the bank gave him 10 grand out of your account? I bet you and every other Dem would support photo ID when it comes to taking money from your account. 

Nothing is fraud proof, including photo id, but it helps.....just like the wall helps but people, with time, can figure out a way around it. 

The newest fraud is stealing bank statements and ordering a fake DL with your info and their picture....then walking into a bank you bank out in a different town, they claim to be traveling and get a couple thousand to stay under radar.....They can do that at a few different banks before they are caught.  It is difficult to claim someone is not who they claim to be,,,,,,because if you are wrong, it's a bad look.....

This will pass the senate

I’ll ask you like I did Reagan. Where is the evidence of election fraud? Where is the proof that any race anywhere anytime has been statistically altered because of fraud of ANY kind? Our election system is the safest in the world. Why take efforts to restrict voting when historically it has been made easier and more accessible to the citizenry? Because Trump is a natural born cheat.

[UT alum]

4 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Nonsense, it's not voter suppression.

Only white liberals believe that the poor and downtrodden don't have the ability to get an ID.

Still no proof of fraud. Still no proof the system is rigged or corrupt. None. Zero, zip, nada. Like I say, the Republican Party loves to fix problems that don’t exist.

[OlDawg]

Voter participation has increased since 2000 regardless of ID requirements. The argument that requiring an ID to vote is restrictive is bogus.

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[baddog]

I carry a photo ID everywhere I go. What’s the problem?

[thetragichippy]

22 minutes ago, UT alum said:

I’ll ask you like I did Reagan. Where is the evidence of election fraud? Where is the proof that any race anywhere anytime has been statistically altered because of fraud of ANY kind? Our election system is the safest in the world. Why take efforts to restrict voting when historically it has been made easier and more accessible to the citizenry? Because Trump is a natural born cheat.

There has been examples of election fraud the last several years, but Democrats discount it as not significant….at the same time claiming every vote should count….

Banks eat fraud all the time…….and ask for id…..think about that in the votes…..what get ls missed?

[thetragichippy]

1 minute ago, baddog said:

I carry a photo ID everywhere I go. What’s the problem?

Apparently some women have the brains to complete all the paperwork to get married, but if they get a divorce they become stupid, and can’t figure out have to change their name back so they can vote……at least that is what several democrats claim

[baddog]

10 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Apparently some women have the brains to complete all the paperwork to get married, but if they get a divorce they become stupid, and can’t figure out have to change their name back so they can vote……at least that is what several democrats claim

Unless the divorce decree says they must change their last name, a woman can still use her married last name. Dems can’t define a woman anyway. 
I think they’re worried about the men who think they’re women. They’re so confused, they shouldn’t vote anyway. 

[OlDawg]

I can’t count on both hands how many times I’ve been at a polling location waiting in line, seen a bus pull up and many folks who were down on their luck exit, get their paperwork to vote from the driver or their helper, and say they’ll get fed after they get done voting.

I’m not sure who they were voting for…(/sarcasm)

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, UT alum said:

Still no proof of fraud. Still no proof the system is rigged or corrupt. None. Zero, zip, nada. Like I say, the Republican Party loves to fix problems that don’t exist.

Like the border?

[Reagan]

 

WOW!  Real difficult.!  LOL! 

Are the Democrats, and some here, racist for saying that blacks do not have the intestinal fortitude and intelligence to know what to do if an ID is required to vote?  BTW, 71% of blacks favor voter ID.  

[LumRaiderFan]

1 minute ago, Reagan said:

 

WOW!  Real difficult.!  LOL! 

Are the Democrats, and some here, racist for saying that blacks do not have the intestinal fortitude and intelligence to know what to do if an ID is required to vote?  BTW, 71% of blacks favor voter ID.  

It’s absolutely ridiculous, anyone with any sense knows exactly why democrats push back on ID.

[OlDawg]

I can understand someone saying the Feds shouldn't be requiring anything to be able to vote. I can understand them saying it should be left up to each State. That--to me--is a valid argument. The argument of requiring an ID to vote is a hardship has been disproven over and over through the years via voter turnout. The Parties have modified their voter turnout operations to compensate. They educate their voters and make sure they have what they need to vote.