Snapshot day (realignment)

[AverageJoe86]

4 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I agree about the opt up. It should only be for schools with major travel issues. (i.e. El Paso, etc.) Not for schools that are are only traveling 60 or less miles. BC, HJ and Liberty all opted up for competition reasons. Not travel. You'll never convince me otherwise. I can see BC opting up because they are actually very close to DI numbers anyway. HJ and Liberty are not even close.

Also, I am not all that hip on all the other sports going to divisions but if that is how it's going to be, then have divisional districts like football and not decide the divisions after district play. That actually allows a larger school to get in D2 depending on who makes playoffs.

If they do go with divisional districts this next realignment for all sports (I am hearing they won't) then schools that opt up for football should have to play all the rest of their sports in that football district. You shouldn't be able to pick and choose what sport you want to opt up in and not.

100% agree. You shouldn't be able to pick and choose...

[Darth Texas]

5 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I agree about the opt up. It should only be for schools with major travel issues. (i.e. El Paso, etc.) Not for schools that are are only traveling 60 or less miles. BC, HJ and Liberty all opted up for competition reasons. Not travel. You'll never convince me otherwise. I can see BC opting up because they are actually very close to DI numbers anyway. HJ and Liberty are not even close.

Also, I am not all that hip on all the other sports going to divisions but if that is how it's going to be, then have divisional districts like football and not decide the divisions after district play. That actually allows a larger school to get in D2 depending on who makes playoffs.

If they do go with divisional districts this next realignment for all sports (I am hearing they won't) then schools that opt up for football should have to play all the rest of their sports in that football district. You shouldn't be able to pick and choose what sport you want to opt up in and not.

I thought HJ and BC didn’t even deny opting up for competition reasons — They pretty openly were trying to get away from Silsbee, WOS, and HF. I don’t remember a source, and I may be remembering what people were publicly assuming. Regardless, I agree: Opting up shouldn’t be allowed unless there are compelling non-competitive reasons justifying it, like travel distance. 

[Vini vidi]

Good chance that there is a school or two knocking on the 4000+ door will be in 6a d2. Once realignment numbers come out. We will see if I’m right

[oldschool2]

4 hours ago, DukeS said:

I’m for keeping competition fair within reason. Maybe splitting 6a makes sense because those schools tend to be in closer proximity to each other in major metros, but I don’t know that it’s a good idea for even 5A and below to be split.

Not everyone has to make the playoffs and we certainly don’t need 12 different state champions. 

You're ok with schools playing another school with double their enrollment in district competition?  Think about the top enrollment number of 5A D1 (2274) compared to the bottom number of 5A D2 (1315).  Bottom of 4A D2 (545) vs. top of 4A D1 (1314).  Bottom of 3A D2 (254) vs. top of 3A D1 (544).  etc..

Whether it two schools with 6A numbers or 2 schools with 1A numbers.. in the average athletic/academic competition, the school with twice as many students to choose from will have somewhat of an advantage.

Surely you're not saying that's not true.

[DukeS]

34 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

You're ok with schools playing another school with double their enrollment in district competition?  Think about the top enrollment number of 5A D1 (2274) compared to the bottom number of 5A D2 (1315).  Bottom of 4A D2 (545) vs. top of 4A D1 (1314).  Bottom of 3A D2 (254) vs. top of 3A D1 (544).  etc..

Whether it two schools with 6A numbers or 2 schools with 1A numbers.. in the average athletic/academic competition, the school with twice as many students to choose from will have somewhat of an advantage.

Surely you're not saying that's not true.

If those schools don’t have to make multi-hour trips just for district games, then yes I would support that.  I realize that I might place a higher value on reasonable travel compared to most in this forum.  

Long travel distances can become a significant burden for districts and the community. 

[Matthew328]

16 hours ago, setxathlete14 said:

Yeah I missed that comment. Thats not even close to being correct on any planet lol

Shepherd in our computer models is a 4-point favorite over H-J not unrealistic by any means

[Matthew328]

4 hours ago, DukeS said:

If those schools don’t have to make multi-hour trips just for district games, then yes I would support that.  I realize that I might place a higher value on reasonable travel compared to most in this forum.  

Long travel distances can become a significant burden for districts and the community. 

Schools always can opt up to play closer to home....so for example PNG could opt up to D1 and play in 9-5A D1

[DukeS]

1 hour ago, Matthew328 said:

Schools always can opt up to play closer to home....so for example PNG could opt up to D1 and play in 9-5A D1

Similarly, Bryan Rudder, Huntsville, and the Montgomery isd schools could opt up to play closer to the two college station 5a D1 schools. At least those would be about an hour apart. 

I’m sure that would be a tough sell to the coaches and ADs though. There’s not a perfect solution that would make everyone happy in such a big state.