Putin steamrolls Trump

[baddog]

3 minutes ago, Big girl said:

You need to go back and reread this thread.

Not…..

[PA98]

On 8/21/2025 at 8:47 AM, OlDawg said:

For better or worse, it's been ruled unconstitutional. They won't be displayed in public school classrooms unless appealed and overturned.

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Just what we wanted, right!?

[OlDawg]

29 minutes ago, PA98 said:

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Just what we wanted, right!?

Not really sure how I feel about this. I’ve always been one that believed family came first, parents were primary, and religion was best left to be taught by the parents and their belief group.

On the other hand, the moral lessons are sorely needed among our youth, and just seeing them—without even discussing formally—may give some pause to think more about how they treat others.

Similar to cell phones being taken away is making them have actual face-to-face interactions. Also a good thing to me.

I know at the La Porte town pep rally at the new stadium tonight, the School Board President led the entire crowd (probably 5.000 or so) in a prayer before the festivities. Everyone—even the smaller kids—were at least respectful and quiet. Even if they didn’t pray along. So, some schools still do keep those traditions alive.

[PA98]

8 hours ago, OlDawg said:

Not really sure how I feel about this. I’ve always been one that believed family came first, parents were primary, and religion was best left to be taught by the parents and their belief group.

On the other hand, the moral lessons are sorely needed among our youth, and just seeing them—without even discussing formally—may give some pause to think more about how they treat others.

Similar to cell phones being taken away is making them have actual face-to-face interactions. Also a good thing to me.

I know at the La Porte town pep rally at the new stadium tonight, the School Board President led the entire crowd (probably 5.000 or so) in a prayer before the festivities. Everyone—even the smaller kids—were at least respectful and quiet. Even if they didn’t pray along. So, some schools still do keep those traditions alive.

You're not sure how you feel about the First Amendment? 

Moral lessons are needed among the adults running this state, country, and the bigots that post here daily. 

[DCT]

On 8/24/2025 at 10:21 PM, baddog said:

Not…..

Not surprised.

[5GallonBucket]

It starts at home and sadly kids can’t pick their parents.….

parents want to blame everyone else but themselves.

[tvc184]

15 hours ago, OlDawg said:

Not really sure how I feel about this. I’ve always been one that believed family came first, parents were primary, and religion was best left to be taught by the parents and their belief group.

On the other hand, the moral lessons are sorely needed among our youth, and just seeing them—without even discussing formally—may give some pause to think more about how they treat others.

Similar to cell phones being taken away is making them have actual face-to-face interactions. Also a good thing to me.

I know at the La Porte town pep rally at the new stadium tonight, the School Board President led the entire crowd (probably 5.000 or so) in a prayer before the festivities. Everyone—even the smaller kids—were at least respectful and quiet. Even if they didn’t pray along. So, some schools still do keep those traditions alive.

The traditions have mostly been ruled unconstitutional.

 The Supreme Court doesn’t set statutory laws however. They can’t fine or jail a person for violating the Constitution. That is left to state and federal district judges or juries who can assess penalties in a lawsuit.

What that means is, until someone files in lawsuit, there is no harm. As soon as someone does then there might be a temporary restraining order soon, followed by an injunction, pending the outcome.

So when someone finally files with the court and the judge issues that restraining order or injunction and when he starts assessing a $1000 a day contempt of court fine to the school district if they continue, they will have to reevaluate their decision. 

[OlDawg]

5 hours ago, tvc184 said:

The traditions have mostly been ruled unconstitutional.

 The Supreme Court doesn’t set statutory laws however. They can’t fine or jail a person for violating the Constitution. That is left to state and federal district judges or juries who can assess penalties in a lawsuit.

What that means is, until someone files in lawsuit, there is no harm. As soon as someone does then there might be a temporary restraining order soon, followed by an injunction, pending the outcome.

So when someone finally files with the court and the judge issues that restraining order or injunction and when he starts assessing a $1000 a day contempt of court fine to the school district if they continue, they will have to reevaluate their decision. 

My tradition is that I don’t typically respond to a poster who—without actually knowing other posters—regularly throws around the ‘bigot’ and ‘racist’ cards just because they don’t agree with their viewpoint. That applies whether it’s directed at me or not.

In answer to your post…Yes. Well aware. However, a School Board member isn’t a public school employee and isn’t governed by the Establishment clause. Even an employee (like a coach) can pray—voluntarily—at an extracurricular activity. That has been found constitutional in Kennedy vs. Bremerton.

I don’t see Texas having a major issue with voluntary prayer before a high school sporting event in most locales. But, having the Ten Commandments (regardless of whether I think they should be followed or not) posted in classrooms is a different matter.

Some people (not you) have a very limited understanding of the Establishment Clause and the First Amendment. I would venture to guess that most couldn’t even name the rights included in the First Amendment. They only think of one. Two at most. Talk about the Establishment & Free Exercise Clauses and eyes glaze over.