LumRaiderFan Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, Porter said: I agree. What I find odd is Trump will meet with some of the worse evil leaders in the world Putin, Xi, Kim Jung Un, etc but he want meet with the Epstein survivors slash victims. Usually Trump will meet with anyone and take on the hard problem that pertains to the situation but not in the Epstein situation. He could shut all the talk down by meeting with the survivors and telling them his DOJ will go after the perpetrators that committed crimes against them as it pertains to the Epstein Saga. I am a Trump policy supporter but he has handled this situation horribly and it doesn’t look good on him in my opinion. I am not saying he’s guilty of anything but if he is he’s got to answer for it. This was not a hoax. There were lots of victims. This clip is an example. I don’t care for Kaitlyn Collins of NBC but she’s asking a legitimate question about justice for the survivors. I don’t think he embarrassed her, I think he made himself look like a callous fool. I don’t think it’s cool to be smiling when you’re asking about sexual survivors of Epstein’s Ring he was running. I certainly won’t defend how Trump handles this or anything, his tactics make me cringe sometimes, but for the most part, I like the results. Not sure why it’s demanded that he personally get involved in this when no one was concerned that it be dealt with the previous four years, other than many folks are hoping sooooo bad Trump is involved in this, the outrage for the victims is for the most part, fake. I bet if I made a list of the top 100 sex traffickers, Epstein’s name wouldn’t be on it, so why does the POTUS need to be hands on for this one, there are other law enforcement agencies built for this. Quote
Porter Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: I certainly won’t defend how Trump handles this or anything, his tactics make me cringe sometimes, but for the most part, I like the results. Not sure why it’s demanded that he personally get involved in this when no one was concerned that it be dealt with the previous four years, other than many folks are hoping sooooo bad Trump is involved in this, the outrage for the victims is for the most part, fake. I bet if I made a list of the top 100 sex traffickers, Epstein’s name wouldn’t be on it, so why does the POTUS need to be hands on for this one, there are other law enforcement agencies built for this. I say all of this because of all that has been released a few days ago. I hear you but he personally got involved in many of the rape/murder victims of illegals by meeting with their parents and even naming parks and laws after them when he was campaigning. I don’t see the difference with the Epstein victims. Innocent women were raped and some murdered. It would shut down a lot of the chatter if he did meet with the victims. Just my opinion. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Porter said: I say all of this because of all that has been released a few days ago. I hear you but he personally got involved in many of the rape/murder victims of illegals by meeting with their parents and even naming parks and laws after them when he was campaigning. I don’t see the difference with the Epstein victims. Innocent women were raped and some murdered. It would shut down a lot of the chatter if he did meet with the victims. Just my opinion. I don’t disagree, but his meetings with victims of illegals was to highlight the need for the tough policies and actions that we are now seeing. Quote
Porter Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago 57 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: I don’t disagree, but his meetings with victims of illegals was to highlight the need for the tough policies and actions that we are now seeing. I understand but sexually exploiting children to me falls in that category which is what was done in the Epstein Trafficking Ring. I believe the way he’s handled this is going to come back to bite him . JMO Don not forget he signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Quote
DCT Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago 5 hours ago, thetragichippy said: This is you, right?? You can't have it both ways.... This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Victims were not included. Quote
thetragichippy Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, DCT said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Victims were not included. Trump could decide to voluntarily waive his privacy rights Who knows if this report is true - but Trump as a private citizen should not be treated any differently than other private citizens... Quote
Reagan Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, DCT said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Victims were not included. Come on, man, the new republic is as far left as is the daily beast. So, since you keep posting these far left commie sites, you actually are that far left! Quote
Reagan Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago She never denied any of this. She said Bill, her ex, is going to have to answer for this. She said it's sad! Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Porter said: I understand but sexually exploiting children to me falls in that category which is what was done in the Epstein Trafficking Ring. I believe the way he’s handled this is going to come back to bite him . JMO Don not forget he signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act. He’s gone in three years, I don’t think this will hurt him too much. Personally, I would rather the POTUS and his administration focus on a secure border and about 100 other issues ahead of this, plenty of capable folks to handle sex trafficking crimes. Quote
Porter Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 43 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: He’s gone in three years, I don’t think this will hurt him too much. Personally, I would rather the POTUS and his administration focus on a secure border and about 100 other issues ahead of this, plenty of capable folks to handle sex trafficking crimes. Let me rephrase that “hurt the party” Of course I am not a party person. Both political parties take turn robbing the taxpayer. Then sometimes they do it together. One party is trying to drive us over the cliff in a Bugatti and the other in a Yugo. 40 trillion in debt is a National Security issue and none of them care it seems like. I think he’s done some good things but I am disappointed that a replacement plan for Obamacare was not already to go when he took office and voter integrity/voter id plan. The cost of Health Insurance and Food is smothering the middle class. Trump likes to think the Epstein Files are all about him and that can’t be further from the truth. Child trafficking is a huge problem in this country. Like I said the whole situation has been handled horribly. DCT and Boyz N Da Hood 1 1 Quote
baddog Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago I think there are too many people who think the Epstein files are all about Trump. Look at some of the people whose lives may have been ruined from some simple photos. No mention of them on this thread because they only want Trump. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Porter said: Let me rephrase that “hurt the party” Of course I am not a party person. Both political parties take turn robbing the taxpayer. Then sometimes they do it together. One party is trying to drive us over the cliff in a Bugatti and the other in a Yugo. 40 trillion in debt is a National Security issue and none of them care it seems like. I think he’s done some good things but I am disappointed that a replacement plan for Obamacare was not already to go when he took office and voter integrity/voter id plan. The cost of Health Insurance and Food is smothering the middle class. Trump likes to think the Epstein Files are all about him and that can’t be further from the truth. Child trafficking is a huge problem in this country. Like I said the whole situation has been handled horribly. If we’re talking about lowering national debt then government run healthcare shouldn’t be in the conversation. And I’m middle class, I am not being smothered by food and healthcare. Back to the Epstein files. Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 59 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: If we’re talking about lowering national debt then government run healthcare shouldn’t be in the conversation. And I’m middle class, I am not being smothered by food and healthcare. Back to the Epstein files. I am talking about opening up health insurance to be able buy across state lines and other things to bring down cost and get government out of the health insurance business. I am sorry but the average family in Texas can’t afford $2300 a month for health insurance and that’s with the employer paying their part not to mention deductibles. Maybe we have a different definition of middle class. Glad to see you haven’t been affected by the ridiculous price of groceries. So yes let’s get back to the Epstein Files that you said weren’t important. Here’s a montage of ridiculousness of the handling of the Epstein files. Quote
DCT Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 41 minutes ago, baddog said: I think there are too many people who think the Epstein files are all about Trump. Look at some of the people whose lives may have been ruined from some simple photos. No mention of them on this thread because they only want Trump. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
DCT Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, thetragichippy said: Trump could decide to voluntarily waive his privacy rights Who knows if this report is true - but Trump as a private citizen should not be treated any differently than other private citizens... This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up She needs to be removed and Trump needs to stop calling this a hoax. Quote
baddog Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, DCT said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Try to find what his ex said about him. He caught a venereal disease from Russian girls. The links are out there. Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 45 minutes ago, baddog said: I think there are too many people who think the Epstein files are all about Trump. Look at some of the people whose lives may have been ruined from some simple photos. No mention of them on this thread because they only want Trump. Nobody made Trump sign the Epstein Files Transparency Act. There shouldn’t be a 2 tier justice system for the wealthy period. 47 minutes ago, baddog said: I think there are too many people who think the Epstein files are all about Trump. Look at some of the people whose lives may have been ruined from some simple photos. No mention of them on this thread because they only want Trump. Quote
baddog Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Porter said: Nobody made Trump sign the Epstein Files Transparency Act. There shouldn’t be a 2 tier justice system for the wealthy period. Agreed. I don’t see anyone making Trump do anything. Quote
Porter Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, baddog said: Agreed. I don’t see anyone making Trump do anything. What I am saying is if your going to sign a piece of legislation like the Epstein Files Transparency Act and release over 3 million documents you have to know you are going to questions about it. Nothing to see here your stupid let’s move on is not a good way to respond by Trump. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 39 minutes ago, Porter said: I am talking about opening up health insurance to be able buy across state lines and other things to bring down cost and get government out of the health insurance business. I am sorry but the average family in Texas can’t afford $2300 a month for health insurance and that’s with the employer paying their part not to mention deductibles. Maybe we have a different definition of middle class. Glad to see you haven’t been affected by the ridiculous price of groceries. So yes let’s get back to the Epstein Files that you said weren’t important. Here’s a montage of ridiculousness of the handling of the Epstein files. Never said they weren’t important, just shouldn’t be top priority for the POTUS. Quote
Porter Posted 56 minutes ago Report Posted 56 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Never said they weren’t important, just shouldn’t be top priority for the POTUS. Well he signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act so he’s got to man up and answer questions about it and not get so defensive about it. He really made a fool of himself yesterday. Trumps influencers Dan Bongino and Kash Patel made it a top priority when Trump was campaigning to be reelected to release the perpetrators names and prosecute them. As of right now it’s been a nothing burger. Maybe something will change. Who knows. Quote
baddog Posted 56 minutes ago Report Posted 56 minutes ago 25 minutes ago, Porter said: What I am saying is if your going to sign a piece of legislation like the Epstein Files Transparency Act and release over 3 million documents you have to know you are going to questions about it. Nothing to see here your stupid let’s move on is not a good way to respond by Trump. I can see where Trump would tire of the same questions……kinda like this thread. The first post is what Trump has been dealing with the whole time. Then he said…..ok, you asked for it. I wonder who looks at the videos? That would be right up CB’s alley. Someone has already seen them, even in the last administration. Probably why they didn’t release them. Quote
Porter Posted 46 minutes ago Report Posted 46 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, baddog said: I can see where Trump would tire of the same questions……kinda like this thread. The first post is what Trump has been dealing with the whole time. Then he said…..ok, you asked for it. I wonder who looks at the videos? That would be right up CB’s alley. Someone has already seen them, even in the last administration. Probably why they didn’t release them. Like I said he signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act recently so he has to deal with it. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted 35 minutes ago Report Posted 35 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Porter said: I am talking about opening up health insurance to be able buy across state lines and other things to bring down cost and get government out of the health insurance business. I am sorry but the average family in Texas can’t afford $2300 a month for health insurance and that’s with the employer paying their part not to mention deductibles. Maybe we have a different definition of middle class. Glad to see you haven’t been affected by the ridiculous price of groceries. So yes let’s get back to the Epstein Files that you said weren’t important. Here’s a montage of ridiculousness of the handling of the Epstein files. I consider myself very upper middle class (wife and I are retired) and we feel the strain of grocery and health insurance. Anyone calling themselves middle class and stating the economy doesn't effect them is not being realistic. Quote
Porter Posted 32 minutes ago Report Posted 32 minutes ago Just now, AggiesAreWe said: I consider myself very upper middle class (wife and I are retired) and we feel the strain of grocery and health insurance. Anyone calling themselves middle class and stating the economy doesn't affect them is not being realistic. Well I was beginning to think my wife and I fell out of the middle class. Lol These last 5 years has definitely affected our budget! I hear you! Quote
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