What will it take for SETX to start getting the respect that DFW & ETX currently gets?

[Bigdog]

2 minutes ago, Stattrax said:

Football is no fundamental...... PAM is not a factory.....1 good run since the Dodger......

exactly.  I wouldn't lump PAM in with WOS and Newton, they have the same amount of runs as Ned, PNG and Crosby.

[Stattrax]

Nope.. Have not since 99.... However, the point was PAM is not a powerhouse.... 1 in the last 3 Decades?

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

2 minutes ago, Stattrax said:

Nope.. Have not since 99.... However, the point was PAM is not a powerhouse.... 1 in the last 3 Decades?

Who said they were? 

 

 

TO EVERYONE IN GENERAL DO YOU GUYS NOT READ OR YOU CHOOSE NOT TO? 

 

Sorry for all caps but some of you guys need a reading test or comprehension test. 

[Cougar14.2]

10 minutes ago, Stattrax said:

Nope.. Have not since 99.... However, the point was PAM is not a powerhouse.... 1 in the last 3 Decades?

I was in Chicago last week doing some training. The instructor happened to be from Lumberton and did refer to Crosby as a ". . . powerhouse team that gave us in Texas what we refer to as a good 'ole fashion a*& whoopin' ". If you think schools like Foster or Elkins are powerhouses then PAM will be too in 5A. If you look around the state there aren't a lot of teams with over 40 wins the last 4 years, Crosby has that but I'm still sure you would refer to a team like Angleton as a powerhouse with their 32 wins.

[navydawg31]

That's why I questioned PAM being a "powerhouse" lmao! Joke of the day.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

41 minutes ago, Cougar14.2 said:

I was in Chicago last week doing some training. The instructor happened to be from Lumberton and did refer to Crosby as a ". . . powerhouse team that gave us in Texas what we refer to as a good 'ole fashion a*& whoopin' ". If you think schools like Foster or Elkins are powerhouses then PAM will be too in 5A. If you look around the state there aren't a lot of teams with over 40 wins the last 4 years, Crosby has that but I'm still sure you would refer to a team like Angleton as a powerhouse with their 32 wins.

+1. 

 

We had that kinda run of wins on the 6A level during a certain timeframe, but of course you know on here you gotta erase memory of "certain" programs. I know you know what I mean

[Stattrax]

38 minutes ago, Cougar14.2 said:

I was in Chicago last week doing some training. The instructor happened to be from Lumberton and did refer to Crosby as a ". . . powerhouse team that gave us in Texas what we refer to as a good 'ole fashion a*& whoopin' ". If you think schools like Foster or Elkins are powerhouses then PAM will be too in 5A. If you look around the state there aren't a lot of teams with over 40 wins the last 4 years, Crosby has that but I'm still sure you would refer to a team like Angleton as a powerhouse with their 32 wins.

First of all.... Any football knowledge from a Lumberton resident is almost a JOKE of the day....... I do not think of Schools that are not in this area period.. SETX  means local to me.. I understand through all your posts that Crosby is the "Cats Meow"... But IMO, I have never seen them as anything more than a Dayton tail grabber.. I do know that they have had recent success... And I am sure you know all the percentages.. And i am sure you can give me all of PN-Gs... But my original statement was the PAM has done nothing in the history of the school to be considered a Powerhouse.. Its just my opinion.. I make a ton of my assessments from watching these kids from the work they do in the gym... I see PNG, Nederland, and PAM.... you would be amazed the dedication of a few mentioned vs another mentioned... PAM has the best talent, the best athletes......... It ends there in my mind.. Average at best on everything else.. That average will get them through our district rather easily... I am not quite sure it turns them into a POWERHOUSE, just yet. Only time will tell.. But if I was putting money on a DC.... I would put it on them... I think they have the wheels to go deep... I just do not know if they have all the other things to go with it to keep it together yearly...

[Bigdog]

I wouldn't lump Crosby in with WOS and Newton either, they are about the same as most of this area.

[Stattrax]

The correct answer to the title of this thread is easy... Better recruiting, Better facilities, Better area, and Better jobs.....

[TradenupBH]

There is no powerhouse in the upper classifications in SETX. WB is the only 6A team left in the area. If you look at 21 and 22-5A playoffs teams in the last 10 years, there's not one team that would be considered a powerhouse. Teams that have went past 2 nd round the most in last 10 years is Dayton 5 times, Crosby 2 times, Central 2 times and Nederland 2 times. Mediocre teams with a local powerhouse flavor. That's about it.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

5 minutes ago, TradenupBH said:

There is no powerhouse in the upper classifications in SETX. WB is the only 6A team left in the area. If you look at 21 and 22-5A playoffs teams in the last 10 years, there's not one team that would be considered a powerhouse. Teams that have went past 2 nd round the most in last 10 years is Dayton 5 times, Crosby 2 times, Central 2 times and Nederland 2 times. Mediocre teams with a local powerhouse flavor. That's about it.

Yeah 2 times for us too, oh, oops I forgot, it never happened. 

[TradenupBH]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Yeah 2 times for us too, oh, oops I forgot, it never happened. 

Oh yea, I always forget about PAM. They have depressed me over the years after combining 3 schools and under performing. Thought for sure with the athlete's that come out of PA, ya'll would've made some deep runs. So add Memorial to the mix. Not impressive for our area for sure to only get past the 2nd round a handful of times in past 10 years.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

1 minute ago, TradenupBH said:

Oh yea, I always forget about PAM. They have depressed me over the years after combining 3 schools and under performing. Thought for sure with the athlete's that come out of PA, ya'll would've made some deep runs. So add Memorial to the mix. Not impressive for our area for sure to only get past the 2nd round a handful of times in past 10 years.

West Brook been depressing me since 1983.

[TradenupBH]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

West Brook been depressing me since 1983.

LoL, hey our 91 team was hot, but WB reminds me of BH, we struggled to get out of 1st round every year after going undefeated. Then Ozen opened up and the rest is history.

[TradenupBH]

Buddy, I have to admit, I miss the days of donkey stomping them Yellowjackets and Bumblebees. The Honeybee's made halftime worth it though.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

10 minutes ago, TradenupBH said:

Buddy, I have to admit, I miss the days of donkey stomping them Yellowjackets and Bumblebees. The Honeybee's made halftime worth it though.

I dont miss it, good riddance, shoulda been done with in the 90s. No sense for 3 schools. 

[Cougar14.2]

2 hours ago, Stattrax said:

First of all.... Any football knowledge from a Lumberton resident is almost a JOKE of the day....... I do not think of Schools that are not in this area period.. SETX  means local to me.. I understand through all your posts that Crosby is the "Cats Meow"... But IMO, I have never seen them as anything more than a Dayton tail grabber.. I do know that they have had recent success... And I am sure you know all the percentages.. And i am sure you can give me all of PN-Gs... But my original statement was the PAM has done nothing in the history of the school to be considered a Powerhouse.. Its just my opinion.. I make a ton of my assessments from watching these kids from the work they do in the gym... I see PNG, Nederland, and PAM.... you would be amazed the dedication of a few mentioned vs another mentioned... PAM has the best talent, the best athletes......... It ends there in my mind.. Average at best on everything else.. That average will get them through our district rather easily... I am not quite sure it turns them into a POWERHOUSE, just yet. Only time will tell.. But if I was putting money on a DC.... I would put it on them... I think they have the wheels to go deep... I just do not know if they have all the other things to go with it to keep it together yearly...

Cool, I didn't realize Manvel was the only 5A powerhouse in the entire Houston metro area or that Manvel and Cedar Park were the only 5A powerhouses in the region. I would throw in Ennis into the regional power mix but they only have 1 more win than Crosby the last 4 years so I know you don't see them as one. Other than Manvel, which just dropped from 6A and will move back up at the next alignment, Crosby has more wins than every team in the Houston/SETX area. There are currently 65 teams in the region, Crosby has more wins than all but 3. Interesting to know we're Dayton tail grabbers after being up 4-3 in our last 7 game series.    

[Stattrax]

3 minutes ago, Cougar14.2 said:

Cool, I didn't realize Manvel was the only 5A powerhouse in the entire Houston metro area or that Manvel and Cedar Park were the only 5A powerhouses in the region. I would throw in Ennis into the regional power mix but they only have 1 more win than Crosby the last 4 years so I know you don't see them as one. Other than Manvel, which just dropped from 6A and will move back up at the next alignment, Crosby has more wins than every team in the Houston/SETX area. There are currently 65 teams in the region, Crosby has more wins than all but 3. Interesting to know we're Dayton tail grabbers after being up 4-3 in our last 7 game series.    

Every team mentioned in your post I do not consider SETX.... We have been through this before..... 

[Cougar14.2]

9 minutes ago, Stattrax said:

Every team mentioned in your post I do not consider SETX.... We have been through this before..... 

We're past SETX, stop being myopic. We're trying to quantify the criteria it takes, as you see it, for being good before we decide what powerhouse definitions are? I just laid out the facts to you. Manvel is the only 5A powerhouse in the entire Houston area, correct? Very simple yes or no would do. IMO, after we beat them 34-0 the calisthenics Angleton performed on y'all made them look like a powerhouse to me. You can either answer or choose to again deflect like a good politician does.

[navydawg31]

What round in the playoffs would it take for a Manvel vs Crosby showdown could take place? 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

2 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

What round in the playoffs would it take for a Manvel vs Crosby showdown could take place? 

Manvel is D1. 

[NDNation]

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[WOSgrad]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Manvel is D1. 

Manvel could be D2 if both FB Elkins and Galena Park make the playoffs. Possible, but not likely.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

3 minutes ago, WOSgrad said:

Manvel could be D2 if both FB Elkins and Galena Park make the playoffs. Possible, but not likely.

And Crosby would be D1 if BH instead of Humble or KP make the playoffs, true like above, possible but not likely. 

[Cougar14.2]

7 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

What round in the playoffs would it take for a Manvel vs Crosby showdown could take place? 

If Crosby were to go D1, the rematch would most likely happen in the second round.