thetragichippy

My guess she will say Alton Sterling.

The law will have to change for that to be acceptable. Would it not be easier if the person being arrested would just comply?

Talk about making something out of nothing...... A speech is not copyrighted, and the words were general words and statements that anyone can feel, and those words accounted for maybe 5% of the entire speech..... Plagiarized, no..... Now, what the Trump campaign should do is admit they did not check previous speeches and fire the writer of the speech and move on. This can be around for a day or so, or a month.......up to Trump.

If there was an ounce of truth to that, the media would be all over it....... I mean all over it........

Help me understand. What specific laws would you change to make it "fair"?

You should come ask some of the black folks that live in my neighborhood. It is funny, probably less than 1 or 2% black, yet our Wal-Mart is very diverse. I'm sure that is because it is much newer and cleaner that the Beaumont location. Our crime rate is well below state and national averages, so you really have nothing to fear. As for your open carrying comment, I would look at you suspicious. Since open carry passed, I have seen no one open carrying in Lumberton. I would look at anyone that is open carrying suspiciously, no matter what race. My suggestion is to conceal, that way you won't be a target/threat if someone does decide to pull a gun in a place you are at.

It took us 30 minutes to make a 10 minute drive because we kept having to go to "pokemon stops"

That is not the way law enforcement works. They do not have to say pretty please, they have to do their job. I respect your opinion of what you THINK should happen, but that is not the law. The officers are enforcing the law, and people are getting killed mostly for resisting, or attacking, or giving the cop to feel they are about to attack. We can debate as long as you want about what should happen, but if the laws are not changed, neither will Police procedure. I don't see how the laws could change. If someone does not want to get out the car once ordered, I can't see a cop going sit in his car and waiting him out........

My girlfriend is hooked......smh

Don Lemon is lucky all this was on video....I'm pretty sure that Sheriff wanted to kick his butt!

No one is asking you to change your perception...... You should learn the law though...... Police Officers will continue to protect themselves lawfully, like MOST have. The cops are following the law. It is the Facebook attorneys making these stupid claims, like a cop can't make you get out of a car, or you don't have to comply.......that is getting people killed......and the Cops acquitted.

Nash.....come on man......stay on topic That was WAY out there

Exactly my point. Who cares what questions were asked. Do you think these questions would of made a difference? They(some) think that a talk will make a difference. A talk won't change the law. Right now, in most of these cases, lethal force was an acceptable response. How can something change if doing it is legal? What is your answer?

Never considered you racist or too left wing..... fair answer

I believe on TV she claimed they did not mention the gun to the officer, which totally contradicts her streaming video....... She claimed no medical aid was rendered, when in fact CPR was preformed. She claimed she was detained for 6 hours, and it was only 2.

Thanks LumRaiderFan, I was beginning to think people didn't like me. Funny things about facts, they always seem to come out.

I agree, we are in a much better place now than then.

I watched Megyn Kelly interview a panel last night and was taken back by some of the comments. Most of the conversation centered around the cops changing and weeding out the racist and bad cops. Some said cops fear blacks because of skin color. Some said the cops were racist. One said Philando Castile was murdered by the cop for no reason, some said because he was scared. Some talked about the video of Alton Sterling as solid proof he was murdered. Some say the system itself is set up to be racist. I have a few questions that I would like to see if anyone can answer with facts. Please take all rules of this forum into consideration when responding. I will shut this down immediately if it gets out of hand. 1. We have seen several officer involved shootings in the last couple of years. Most of the officers have been cleared of any charges, so It appears the officers were following the law. So, if we want the cops to "change", the law will have to be amended or changed as well, otherwise they can legally continue to use the same lethal force. So, Under what circumstances do you feel an officer has a right to make a lethal shot/shots? Would you hold yourself to the same standard? Is there a specific law you would change? 2. If the "system" is a racist system, what would you do specifically to change it. In other words, what specific law do you think is racist, and how would you change it? 3. If you are 100% sure Philando Castile was murdered, how do you know? The only video I have watched was after the fact. If it is OK to convict this officer for murder based on a video after the shooting occurred, would you want that same standard used on you, if you ever had to use lethal force? Please stay on topic and answer the specific questions. Thanks!

I merged the Locker Room thread to this one.

I'm the same way......except I won't let a young cop give me "a lecture", when he starts I just ask for the ticket.....but I'm polite as heck:)

Why would a felon in procession of a gun resist a verbal command, a tazer, and finally a physical take down? Everyone close your eyes and pretend this guy is a love one of yours. If this was my Son(and that is even hard for me imagine because of the hurt), I would be so disappointed in HIS actions. I would be mad as hell at the cops, but I would be disappointed in MY Son. I would know deep down it could of been prevented had he just followed the officers commands. Justified or not, had the man complied we would 99.99% not be discussing this. I was discussing on Facebook with some people and found out even highly educated people have no clue of their rights versus cops rights. One guy told me that a cop could not legally handcuff you until he told you why he was putting the handcuffs on. WRONG! I gave a scenario of a guy with a gun in his pocket, with a cop repeatedly asking him to put his hands up. I said when would it be OK for the cop to fire on the suspect. One of the 3 answers was "when the suspect reaches in his pocket, pulls the gun out and points it at the officer" He said none of the answers were correct. "A perceived threat is not a reason to use lethal force". He thought the suspect must fire first so the cop could "meet lethal force with lethal force". I could not convince him otherwise. We have people on social media wrongly telling folks "their legal rights", and I think that is the root of the problem. Most of the deaths could have been prevented had they complied. Most of these deaths have people resisting. Stop RESISTING! I know cops make mistakes and their are crooked ones. If nothing else, not resisting increases your odds that you live....... We need a smart Cop that knows the law and case law to make a post about when lethal force can be used. Just sayin......might save a life

We are jumping to conclusions again without even seeing the initial contact that caused the death. The cop could be guilty as heck, or not. All I seen was a man bleeding and a cop in a panic stating he told him not to reach for the gun. Hopefully we can see his body-cam soon.

What exactly does this have to do with Republicans? We don't even know what happened other than her Facebook post. By the way, of I am ever shot by anyone, please get off Facebook, take your shirt off and apply pressure to as many wounds as you can....

Hopefully he will read this and get back on

Lots of unanswered questions for sure. This thing is blowing up on Facebook.