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Here is your problem or your crutch DV, you assume that anytime anyone says anything against another person and the person happens to be black, then that must be the cause. Obama hasn't caught nearly the flak (yet) that Bill Clinton ended up catching. Was it because Clinton was.... what? He wasn't black so that can't be it. Maybe it was because he was from Arkansas... yeah, that's it. The people that don't like Obama is because they don't like spending even more tax money on bailouts (they didn't like it under Bush either), they don't like the cutting of military programs, they don't like his anti-gun stance, etc. Put a white guy in the same place (like Clinton) and you will get the same responses..... and did.

There's no dodging the history of slavery, land grabs and conquests. Anyone that portrays it as a one race venture however, is ignoring the truth. All have partaken in the feast.

I'm sure that I could do a google search and come up with some examples of Africans taking land. But I will leave you with this about Africans and the taking of something. When slave trade was big business, it wasn't white people going into Africa and trekking cross country capturing slaves. It was other Africans. Worried about land? How about people's lives? Black Africans captured and sold other black Africans for money. As despicable as slavery is, it was not a completely white venture but a collaboration between black tribal chiefs in Africa who captured and sold slaves for money to the (mostly) whites. Who is the most guilty party? Is it the people that bought slaves (many of whom were black themselves) or was it the people that went into the regions to capture them and turn them into slaves to be sold for profit? While looking it up, I found quite interestingly, the first black African that was declared legally a slave in a court in what is now the USA was in 1654. A man named John Casor went to court in the Virginia colony and was declared the legal property for life of Anthony Johnson. Who was Anthony Johnson? He was a free black man.

Yep, we bullied our way in and took some land. As I said in another post, every piece of land ever owned by any person or the government was taken by somebody that lived on or used the land. Every group of people and every race did it. Heck, even the American Indians did it to each other. So what's the big deal? That is the very way countries were formed from mere collections of huts, then cities and then countries. So yes, you are correct. The Constitution does guarantee liberty for everyone. I see no slaves today. The fact is that many people back then knew slavery was abhorring, it was the law of the land in this part of England, of which we were a part at the time of the Revolutionary War. It is true that many people let it go because of political expedience. They may never have gotten the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution passed if they drew a line in the sand and said no slaves. If there had been no slaves, then there may have been no country. The Constitution that did not free everyone immediately, eventually did. The Constitution did not create slavery nor did it condone slavery. It did leave slavery in place that was here long before the Constitution was ever thought up, before any war of indepence was ever contemplated and within 74 years of its signing, the country fought the Civil War that ended slavery. The United States of America (not counting the Confederate States) lost 140,000 soldiers killed during the Civil War. The USA lost more people in a battle to free the slaves than in World War I, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the Afghanistan War and the Iraq War combined. Think about that for a minute.

Truthful like how? Do you mean that politicians will spin things their way or maybe they will not tell the parts that they don't want you to hear? Yeah, maybe. A couple of Democratic backers in this forum have spent time blasting Bush for being untruthful (not proven, just blasting). So is that the answer? They all do it. Being politically truthful as in, I will only say what I want you to hear, is one thing. Covering up evidence is another. Pelosi was one of the ringleaders in calling for investigations and jail time for many Republicans not only for waterboarding but for suggesting it or knowing about it. After all to some extent, she is correct that it is against federal law to know of a felony and not report it. She claims that the waterboarding was a felony torture crime. Great stuff Nancy.. call for all of those evil Republicans to be jailed. The only problem for her now that she has called for jail time for anyone that knew... it looks like she knew. If that is true (and it is sure getting deep for her), it leads to two things that I can think of. First, it makes her a criminal and available for prosecution and prison time. Second, it makes her an extreme hypocrite. Anyone want to bet that soon she will come out with some statement like waterboarding was not a crime after all, now that she has looked into it or something similar to deflect the heat away from her? While I fully expect politicians to spin things their way or dodge questions or talk all around the answers without saying anything, I don't expect them to outright lie and/or commit crimes. Richard Nixon was not a bad president. He won (even during the Watergate scandal) by two of the largest electoral landslides in history. He opened up trade and a more peaceful existence with China and ended the Vietnam War. I have never seen where it was shown that he orchestrated the Watergate breakin but he sure as heck covered it up once it was discovered that it was his employees that did it. That made him a felon, not for the fact that he told them to break in but for the fact that he lied to cover up what he knew. The Democrats and many Republicans didn't let him off of the hook and forced him to resign or be impeached and removed from office. Well it appears as though Queen Nancy just got caught with her hand in the same cookie jar. With a Democratic Congress and President, I don't expect much in the way of actual charges against her. The President won't appoint a special and independent prosecutor (or if he does, it will shock me). I do think the heat "might" get bad enough for her to lose her Speaker of the House position but that is yet to be seen. The way the Democrats usually circle the wagons, they might cover for her long enough to hope that a bigger faux pas is on the horizon to take the heat off of her. For her sake, it had better come fast as the Obama administration through CIA Director Panetta has come out and said that she is not telling the truth. Heaven forbid if the Democrats caught a leading Republican in a lie right now. They would be on it like a bunch of rabid dogs. The clock is ticking Nancy. I'll bet she isn't sleeping well tonight.

A very good showing by Vidor. They came in as the fourth place team and took on a heavily favored BH and took then to game 3. With 4 innings left in the series it was all tied up. Then Vidor gets slammed by the BH bats and still fights back to take the game another inning after being down 10-0. Pretty good stuff in my book. The best team won and will move on but a very young Vidor team at least made them work for it before BH pulled it out the last few innings. Good job by Kyle Green and his Pirates.

I don't think a boat is illegal since it is open waterways but I looked up the Big Thicket NP website. This is their frequently asked questions page. It says there is no charge for hunting or fishing in the preserve so I am assuming that if you comply with state laws, you are okay. [Hidden Content] This is from that website. Q – What’s the charge for entering the preserve, hiking a trail, or going backcountry camping? A – There is no charge for any activity in the preserve, including hunting and fishing.

Which statement? The one where she was clueless or the one where she had heard about it but had not been briefed or the one where she had been briefed by a staffer or the one where she knew what "may" be done but thought nothing of it and the CIA then lied to her because there is no way that she would have known. Of course, Obama's head of the CIA, Clinton Chief of Staff Leon Panetta, came out and said they have documentation that she knew and that there was no cover up by the CIA. I suppose that only Nancy told the truth and everyone is just against her, including the Obama administration. :

That is something that many (or more likely, most) Texans don't understand about our legislative process. They only meet two once every other year and it is only for 140 days. That means that they have less than 4 months once every two years to make laws unless the governor calls a special session in case of an emergency. Legislators (House members and Senators) can file any bill or resolution that they want but it has to be in (I think) by the 90th day of the session. There are literally thousands of bills proposed and very few days to act on them. I hear a few people saying things like, my senator is filing a bill to get this taken care of. Well that may be true but the odds are that the bill will never even be heard in a committee. If it does get to be heard in the committee, it likely won't get out of the committee. If it gets out of the committee, it will then have a "chance" at passing on the floor. Then it has to go the other house for the same action. Then if there are any amendments in either version, they have to go through a compromise version that both houses accept and then it has to go back to the floor of both houses for a final vote. If it happens to pass that, it goes to the governor for a signature, veto or no action and hoping to beat the 10 day deadline for automatic passing. Assuming it gets past all of that, you pet bill will become law. Good luck but don't hold your breath. Not that anyone really cares about the process and I suppose that most would rather remain clueless. It does however say why there are always thousands of bills left to die without any action taken on them. Fortunately in my opinion, by meeting only once every two years and only having four months to take action, it weeds out a lot of the nonsene that many states with permanent or full time legislators face. They are always debating the hot story of the day instead of simply staying out of people's business. So that people don't think that Texas can take action if needed between sessions, the governor can call them back into session for an emergency if he feels that something needs to be passed quickly however it can be for a single purpose and he can't simply continue to call new sessions. Special sessions are rarely called as there are very few occasions where something can't wait for a pet project for another two years or less.

I think a lot of people shoot at carp also.

Yep. Now only down 3-1 and by only 11 total runs.

I think that you are okay as long as it is not game fish (Bass for example) or unless that law pending in the legislature passes about limiting bowfishing to one gar per day. I forgot what the outcome of that proposal was.

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Not much of it was Obama's fault when he was in the Senate. He never showed up to vote.

Let's knock off the personal attacks against other members. I have deleted two posts so far. One by DV and one by bb. Quit attacking each other and stick with the rules of the forum or the thread will be removed.

Yeah, let's bring up the Clinton years. He led a pretty decent economy.... which coincided with the first Republican controlled Congress in 40 years. Clinton could sign nothing that a Republican Congress did not send him. Bush continued with that even with a slight recession at the end of Clinton's term and then the big financial hit of 9-11. After that, Bush and the Republican Congress again led the strong rally and the stock markets reached all-time record highs...... UNTIL... the Democrats took over Congress two and half years ago. Then it all came crashing down again. Remember, just like Clinton with the Republican Congress, Bush could not sign anything into law that a completely Democratic Congress didn't send him. That's right DV. The first Republican Congress in 40 years led to the highest stock market rate and one of the best economies in history. I suppose you will conveniently dismiss that the biggest growth in history came under 12 years of a completely Republican controlled Congress. It continued until... well, until the Democrats took over Congress two years ago. You do remember two years ago when the Republicans lost control. The crashing of the banking system and then the bailouts came from a completely Democrat controlled Congress. I'll guess that you didn't watch the congressional video that I posted from three years ago where the Republicans in open session of a committee said that the banking industry and in particular Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were in trouble. Barney Frank (D Chairman) and Maxine Waters (D Bimbo) praised the fine job that the manager of the two were doing. They were reported to be financially sound and it was nothing but Republican fear tactics. Oops, the Republicans were right three years ago when they said it was in trouble. The Democrats ignored what they were being told and the Kool-Aid Democrats were all too ready to claim that the Republicans were just using fear tactics. No way it could fail. Then when it did fail, they ignore the prior warnings like they were never told... except it is all on video... which I am sure the Democrats will ignore also. I am sure that DV will have a very sound and highly thought out response like an "Oh yeah!!" or a "Says you!!".

Two of my favorite sayings after a game from the losing side.... 1. "You have to give the other team credit though..." 2. "I'm not taking anything away from them" Translated to mean, "Gee, I thought we were supposed to win but my more talented team lost". LCM showed that the definition of "team" is last night. They didn't boot the balls at a bad time and they put the ball into play when needed. Way to go, LCM. Let the 'team' keep playing "team ball"...... but I'm not talking anything away from Crosby.

I like to call these kinds of people, sheeple. You can hear them go "baaaa, baaaa...." everytime they come out of the house. They are waiting for the shepherd (federal government) to come get them together in a flock so they can do as they are told like sheep. When it comes to self defense, they (like the sheep) wait for the protection of the sheep dog or in the sheeple's case, the government in the form of the police. The sheeple for the moment have the upper hand. The government is going to bail them out, the government is going to individually protect them, the government is going to provide housing, the government is going to tell companies how to sell products to them and it will all be okay. Until......... the bills come rolling in, which may not be very long from now. There is already some trouble brewing with America's bond standing in the world due to its massive debt that was just incurred from the "stimulus" package. We will soon have taxes on every drink, each bullet, every glass of water, every piece of candy.... but income taxes won't be raise right, so it won't be a tax on the middle class. Anyone that believes that, repeat after me..... Baaaa, Baaaaa, Baaaa, ......... I guess the sheeple believe that. It will all come crashing down soon enough. Obama has within four months figured out that he can't release the pictures that he claimed that he would. He has also figured out that he can't release the Gitmo detainees like he claimed that he would. So has he become a conservative in some areas or is it that he has learned that once he got into the job, he has found it is easy to criticize from the outside when you don't have the same facts to look at. Carter made the same mistake in 1977 when he took office. The world isn't the same as it appeared from Plains, GA. Probably like Obama though, he stubbornly stuck to his economic policies and left office with one of the worst economies that this country has ever seen with high unemployment (the highest since the Great Depression until this month), way higher interest rates (prime interest rate reached 21% in 1980 from the Carter economy) and much higher inflation (13.5% in 1980) with a Democratic Congress and President. Unfortunately, I am sure that we are in for the same deal in this administration. Baaaa..... Baaaaa .... Obaaaaaamaaaaa..... Obaaaaaamaaaaa......

But other than that...... :

From the article (assuming the article is correct), the coach for Hallsville still thinks that he is within the rules. His claim is that it is according to the interpretation of the rules. If it is that close of an issue, I don't know if it is "cheating", even if the district committee turns out to be correct in their ruling. One of my old bosses described it as two ways to make a mistake. There are mistakes of the head and mistakes of the heart. A mistake of the head is one where you just didn't know the answer, even if you should have. It was an education or a judgment error. A mistake of the heart is where you knew fully well that you are breaking the rules and said to heck with it, I am doing it anyway. Was this a mistake of the head or a mistake of the heart?

Amen! Though I will have my 9mm on my hip for "close encounters". ;D 9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP, a big knife....whatever. ;D

LOL..... Raider is wanting to whip some old men's tails. Bring it Raider! ;D

When we used to hold department fishing tournaments at work, we had a spring tournament and a fall tournament. The fall tournament was in September or October so as not to interfere too much with hunting season. Even then there is Teal hunting in September but probably not a lot of duck hunters in here. There is archery and squirrel season in October but again, probably not too many. The November generally deer season takes away most people so as long as it is before then, a fall tournament might not be a bad idea. I am open for either. I can go for the May 30th date but I need to know fairly quickly so I can take a vacation day. I can take vacation any time that I want as long as I can find a replacement and the sooner, the better.

I thought that no one was indicted. There may have been physical evidence but that alone means nothing in many cases. Simply saying that it happened doesn't mean how it happened.