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Obviously they are the big time favorite. This will be a one game winner take all affair though. Get to the championship game and who gets a break might win it. Calallen lost a game in the Regional Semifinal by a score of 7-3. They beat Ray by a score of only 1-0. While Calallen is good, they are not unbeatable and some of their playoff games have been one swing away from a loss. Moody has had a 4-2 game win this week. Again, a swing away from a loss. While these teams are the easy favorite, in a one game winner take all, they are not guaranteed the championship.

Funny stuff. Kind of makes you wonder why, if they can do all of that, why not play the game?

This from a guy whose team walked away with $130. ;D Congrats on the good fishing. Next time, we will charge a bonus for the pro in your boat. 8)

They sure were...... and black females. Not only was it morally wrong but it was much of the time done with indescribable violence and callousness. I've never seen anyone denying it. Does that make up for any transgressions today? To put it in more plain English, if it was found that a great grandfather of mine killed a great grandfather of yours 150 years ago, does that justify the killing of one of my relatives today by a relative of yours?

In March or October. ;D It was kind of surprising how many of us had common friends or almost knew each other in another life. I am sure that I have spoken to hippie a few times at work when we crossed paths a few years ago when we were both first responders. I coached VP's head baseball coach in Vidor for four years in Little League and it goes on from there. We need more people to show up next time. You can't go wrong with most people that are outdoorsmen and that fish.

But speculation drives forums. ;D

It is not 4 to 1 or even close. CNN, CBS, MSNBC are almost exclusively liberal in their viewpoint and more power to them. Radio talk shows are overwhelmingly conservative but it is run by the free enterprise system. How come liberal shows fail? No shock there...... no one is listening. No conservative has been run off of anything. Not agreeing with far right wing kooks didn't turn them into liberals. Far from it. They might go underground or they might stop watching/listening to some of the shows but their political views haven't changed. Conservatives that don't like the higher taxes, do like a strong military, hate many social engineering and welfare programs, don't like socialized medicine are not all of a sudden for those things because they may be made at Rush Limbaugh for a statement that he made or because McCain is a moderate at best. Nope, they haven't run off. They're simply waiting for someone else to latch their wagon to or waiting for Reagan to be reincarnated.

A Bullfrog, 3rd Class.

cause they're white.... racist!! Nope! :D I think he is saying that you are a Nascar fan. ;D

I was there but..... ho-hum (pardon me while I yawn), I was bored.

One left. I wonder where all the conspiracy theorists are that said there were hundreds if not thousands of bodies and Governor Perry has them all hidden in refrigerated trucks. I guess he still has them parked somewhere... and the black helicopters are circling overhead to protect them.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE STILL ON FOR SATURDAY!! I'm going to ask TVC to make a large sign to hold up at the boat ramp. ;D ;D Actually, everyone look for my boat. It's a white BayHawk center console with a 200HP Evinrude. Sounds more like we should be running the north end of Lake Sabine looking for birds. ;D

Tell that to George Steinbrenner and the Yankees.

I still plan on being there in hippie's boat.

Yeah, I can see your point. It would really look bad when we win yet you fish there weekly. ;D

Are we going to have enough boats to fish?

There not.......besides a police officer can use reasonable force to secure a suspect. What is reasonable force to a guy on PCP? You got part of what I was going to say. NEWFLASH: The police are allowed to use force against people that are resisting arrest, even an unlawful arrest. I've been in many fights while taking people into custody. Hitting people with the hands, feet or baton is not the illegal use of force. Every fight looks brutal. How do you fight someone and make it look like a ballet? The issue in this case as in all cases, was the force reasonable under the circumstances. Looking at the autopsy results, I don't see anywhere that injuries are consistent with a "beating". If they hit him, so what? I would have been hitting him also if he was resisting. People that are on the outside looking at someone getting hit always claim that someone was beaten. Add to the fact there there was more than one officer, it always looks bad. Here is another newsflash, the police don't have to fight fair. If there is one guy resisting arrest, the police don't need to send in one guy at a time. This is not television wrestling where points are score and there are rules. It is called, getting the guy in handcuffs. Now if the police overstepped the bounds of being reasonable like if they hit him and he was not fleeing or resisting or if they continued to hit him after he was subdued, then they were wrong. Nothing from the autopsy indicates that. Maybe these "witnesses" saw something different than what was discovered during the autopsy. Knowing about such witnesses in a fatal police shooting, I have seen that some people can talk a good story but when asked to put their story on paper under oath for the police or the FBI (and risk perjury or obstruction of justice charges), they seem to fade away. Rather than hide any witnesses, they need to step forward and be heard. Any takers on odds of that happening?

More like pretty stupid. I've seen a lot worse videos on tape and this one only lasted a few seconds. It was like they were preprogrammed to hit the guy. No one checked if he was actually resisting for a few seconds. Idiots.

The adrenaline effect of the chase. Got to watch the pursuit mentality. The sirens screaming and the close calls with other traffic get the adrenaline pumping pretty hard. People get hit on pursuits where they would not be in almost the exact same situations but without the chase.

Failed to mention a small part of it huh? Where is the video?

I look at it like this. Every man is someone's son. Every woman is someone's daughter. Most of the time (but not always) if something tragic happens, it is heartbreaking to the family. No matter the cause, it is still a terrible thing. Is it upsetting to the family? Most of the time the answer is yes. Surely the person's stupidity may have caused his own death and maybe the person was not a productive member of society (and may in fact have been a burden) but the family still grieves. So let's get that out of the way, we all know that it is tragic and some of us on this board may have a friend or family member that has met an untimely death due to his/her own decisions. Most of the time, people make their own course in life. Many times, the course dictates how you will be seen by others and sometimes, how you will meet your end. People that are outside of the circle of family or friends might not see the pain but we know that it exists. While it is easy to feel sympathy for the family left behind, it is not so easy to feel sympathy for the person that made his own bed. Think of a person is shot and killed by the police while he is holding a hostage or worse, after he has killed a hostage. Does his family still grieve? Surely in most cases. That doesn't mean that he public will have much empathy in the dead guy's demise. In fact, many members of the public may revel in the fact that the guy that committed murder, has met his own such fate. I don't see how it is rude or crude to feel that way. Look at the people in the news each year that are caught after kidnapping, raping and killing a child. Do we feel like we can't talk about him because he was someone's son or that we shouldn't ridicule the person for such stupid decisions because he had a family? Are we not happy (most of us) when such people get the death sentence? Yes, the person probably has family. Yes, they probably feel terrible about him being executed. That doesn't mean that the public shouldn't talk about it or feel good at the ultimate end. So if a guy goes out and does drugs and causes his own death, so be it. If I go nuts next week and rob a bank and the police shoot and kill me, then I got what I had coming. My parents might be devastated at the news but many people will say that it saved the taxpayers money and I got what I deserved..... and they would be correct. ....and I really don't think my parents would be reading bulletin boards and forums to see what other people felt like.

That makes a lot more sense for both schools rather than Lufkin. Good change.

Well, I was 2/3's right.

IH10 to Beltway 8, north to IH45, west on 105 out of Conroe. If you don't get caught in rush hour traffic on the beltway, it should go fairly quickly.