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Navy is looking strong at their tackle as well. Like the post before, If you can stop them 2 or 3 times you got a shot.  Their D is not that good.  Really thought FWood O would do better than they did.

[quote name="speedkills" post="725721" timestamp="1260207274"] Cats play well against the run and pilot points strength appears to be the run Kirbyville wins in a close one. Kirbyville-22 [b]final seconds scoring a 2 point conversion[/b] Pilot Point- 21 [color=red][size=18pt]Go Big K[/size][/color] [/quote]Knowing Alvarez, That is what will probally happen. He has to have the biggest set on him in the state!!!! LOL!!!

here you go coach, [Hidden Content] 2009 FALL WORKOUT The Frontier League office has announced that it will hold a fall workout for NCAA student-athletes and players looking for exposure. The workout, which will be held at the Gateway Grizzlies’ GCS Ballpark, will take place Saturday October 24 and Sunday October 25. Registration for the workout begins at 8:00 a.m. Saturday. The cost of the workout is $50.00 and includes a workout shirt. “This is a great opportunity for undrafted and NCAA student-athletes to work out for the league,” said Grizzlies Events Coordinator Jeff O’Neill. “The timing of the event is based around the fact that most colleges are wrapping up fall ball and the players still being is baseball shape.” The Grizzlies and the Ramada Inn in Fairview Heights, IL are teaming up for lodging for the event. “Most student-athletes are unable to attend the May tryout since they are still in season,” said Grizzlies General Manager Steve Gomric. “The idea is to give these college kids the opportunity to work out in front of all of the league managers while they are still in baseball mode.” The official sign up for the event can be found on the Frontier League’s website, www.frontierleague.com. FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT: Jeff O’Neill or Steve Gomric in the Grizzlies office by calling (618) 337-3000. Click here to register online. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For information on individual or joint team tryouts click here.    

[quote name="rounder17" post="723909" timestamp="1259978123"] [quote author=GTBBaseball link=topic=63290.msg723879#msg723879 date=1259971352] Ben Broussard was a supplemental round draft pick by Cincy, a "Senior Sign" after MSU, not out of high school. Fackler [/quote] I know, I played baseball with Ben.  The guy didn't have his facts straight. First he wasn't the first pick, and second he played a little higher up than a couple of years of "semi pro". [/quote]McKeller was the player.... was first over all pick in independent ball....their is a draft after tryouts..... Which were held in Fort Worth..... He tried out up there in the Jacksonville league but was drafted by a team up north....(BANGOR - The Bangor Lumberjacks will sign the No. 1 overall pick in the Central League Draft, right hand pitcher Laine McKeller from McNeese State.)  you play 2 years as a "rookie" (paid minimum) then are considered a free agent which can negotiate your own contract... as for "simi pro"..."Independent ball"  its all the same. to me pro is pro. you get paid your a pro.   But Gilligan did say he had no talent and could not play at the next level.....Have this from a really good source...... as for Ben, Lamar passed him up..."whole in his swing"?????????? Now Coach Fackler, I am just wondering how much of those 18 area players mentioned have scholarships??? In the past, Lamar did have area players but [b]not many[/b] on scholarship. You may be right coach, things may have changed. I hope it has.......and you are right, still hold a grudge, but it is hard to forgive the past when you were one of the area players that was burnt. Former Player of yours (Fackler)

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[quote name="643" post="723588" timestamp="1259946370"] Some kids are NOT scholars, if not for BB I would have had to pay some serious $$$$, although mine was recruited and signed early with Lamar in 98 he elected to go the JUCO route, he/we have not regretted going that route, you will find most JUCOs are in a small town inviroment and easy to fit in, some are indeed Baseball factories. Some how mine even got a scholarship for summer school, I asked no question and got no lies...   [/quote]????? he signed with Lamar?? Lamar is a D1..... Or was he recruited by Lamar and turned them down and went JUCO???   Lamar does not offer many scholarships to SETX.  If Gilligan did, he would have a better team then he already has....... He expects these kids to come scholarship free....... He is obsessed on getting kids from NY (where he is from) and Australia (go scouting trip right paid by school). In one case, told a kid from Hardin Jefferson that he was no good and could not play at a D1 level. The kid went JUCO and was all conference, then got a full ride to Mc Neese and was their #1 pitcher for a couple years, then was drafted as a #1 pick in simi pro and played up north for a couple of years.  Gilligan was pissed at the JUCO coach did not send him back and would not send him any more players.  This kid went and tried out, Gilligan did not send him there........ Don't understand him at all.........

[b]For those who think their child might get a baseball athletic scholarship should read this:[/b] The Myth of the Athletic Scholarship ASA News OFFLINE By JOHN MILLEA, Star Tribune Kevin Kray's dream was coming true. The Osseo High School senior wanted to play baseball at the University of Minnesota, and his parents wanted to hear the words that all parents of college-bound athletes dream of: We are offering your child a free education. "When somebody comes and says they're interested in your son, you think, 'Hey, maybe he can get a full ride,' " said Ann Kray, Kevin's mother. Kevin is the oldest of Ann and Dana Kray's three children, and the family had no prior experience with the mysterious world of college athletic scholarships. The family had assumed, as many people do, that full rides are commonplace. "I don't come from a family with a lot of money, and I was hoping the U would be able to help me out," Kevin Kray said. Said Ann Kray: "It's kind of like people's wages, you don't hear people discuss it. In the back of your mind you maybe think they got a full ride. At least that's your perception." Like it does for countless families, though, perception turned into a much different reality for the Krays. Full scholarships are rare in many college sports, and the realities of the scholarship world are just as elusive as the scholarships themselves. But this much is certain: A precious few high school athletes are rewarded with college scholarships each year. The numbers don't lie: • For every 100 high school athletes, there is one full athletic scholarship available. • More than 60 percent of all NCAA athletes receive no athletic scholarship aid. This includes Division III, which does not give out athletic aid. • The average NCAA athlete on scholarship gets, per year, about $10,000 less than the value of a full scholarship. Minnesota offered Kevin Kray a scholarship that would cover less than half the cost of a year's education -- a total that is about $19,000 at the U of M, including room, board and books. He accepted, knowing that the size of his scholarship can be increased in the future, depending on his pitching performance. "We had to kind of take a step back," Ann Kray said. "At first we thought, 'Wow, you don't get full rides, huh?' Initially he had the dream of being able to get college paid for through athletics. It's kind of a bummer, you work just as hard and train just as hard, but there's not as much money for sports like baseball." Think about that the next time you hear of high schools holding signing-day ceremonies, when top athletes put pen to paper and agree to accept college scholarships in front of television and newspapers cameras, proud parents and envious classmates. Because it's likely that most of those young athletes are receiving a very small slice of the scholarship pie. "They invest all this money to get potentially 25 to 33 percent of a scholarship," Gophers baseball coach John Anderson said. "I shake my head a little bit and think, 'You're better off taking that money and putting it in the bank.' People are a little bit shocked by how little aid we have. If you get 30 to 40 percent of a full ride, you're doing pretty good." The myth of money Like most college sports, baseball doesn't have nearly enough scholarships to give everybody a full ride. [b]The NCAA Division I baseball limit is 11.7 full rides[/b], which Anderson tries to split up over a roster that can have [b]35 players[/b]. Men's tennis has only 4.5 scholarships, wrestling 9.9, softball 12 and cross-country/track and field has 12.6 for men and 18 for women. Those are some of the "equivalency" sports, which generally spread small amounts of scholarship money throughout the roster. Athletes in such sports, like track and field, are considered to be "on scholarship" even though they are likely getting a very small percentage of their school paid for and footing the bill for the rest out of pocket. Then there are the Division I "head count" sports -- football, men's and women's basketball, women's volleyball, women's tennis and women's gymnastics. That designation means every athlete receiving a scholarship in those sports gets a full ride. "There is so much misinformation out there. And the biggest one is that full rides grow on trees," said Phil Lundin, the longtime Gophers men's track coach who this year became men's track and cross-country coach at Division III St. Olaf College. Lundin said he felt like a Robin Hood figure when breaking up scholarships for his track team, which averaged 60 athletes in his 13 years as Gophers coach. "One year we had close to 50 on some form of athletic aid," he said. "I sliced that pie so thin you wouldn't have believed it. But everybody got a little bit." Very few of Lundin's athletes received a full ride. Many more got what are called "starter" or "book" scholarships, usually enough aid to pay for books and little else. Even fewer scholarships are available on the Division II level. Scholarship athletes in D-II receive, on average, $6,000 a year -- less than half of the $14,000 those at the D-I level get. The Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference, comprised primarily of Division II schools in Minnesota, allows its football programs to offer only 24 scholarships while the NCAA permits D-II schools to offer up to 36. Even so, NSIC member Minnesota Duluth won the D-II national championship game Saturday. The D-I Gophers, by contrast, give out 85 football scholarships. The NCAA allows no athletic aid on the Division III level, although that doesn't mean some D-III colleges don't find ways to help their top athletes. One way is by awarding "leadership" scholarships to athletes who have displayed some form of leadership, even if it was just being a class officer in high school. Talking about money creates an uneasy dynamic between coaches, players and their families. It's a process coaches often go into with feelings of dread -- a sentiment families soon share. "I think the hardest thing in our business is you have to put a value on somebody," said Anderson, the Gophers baseball coach. "Somebody will say, 'How come you think I'm worth 25 [percent of a scholarship] and so-and-so [at another college] says I'm worth 55?' That's the most demeaning part of my job, having to put a value on a player. It's not that you don't like them as a player. You want them in your program, but 'here are our limitations.' People have a hard time with that." Myth: Athletes have it easy For all the athletes who land full rides and have a great college experience, there are many stories that go wildly off script. Some athletes are promised a scholarship, only to see it yanked because of a coaching change or other reasons. Some start at the Division I level but are overwhelmed by the total commitment that is necessary, the 16-hour days of practice, training, meetings, classes and mandatory study halls, which leave room for nothing else, not even a social life. Gophers football player Ned Tavale, a junior from Cretin-Derham Hall, said coaches joked about "signing my life over to them," but the reality is it isn't far from the truth. Some overwhelmed Division I athletes transfer to Division II or III schools, hoping to strike a greater balance in their lives. The trade-off is giving up a dream of playing at the highest level for the overall college experience. Money also is a factor. Former Wayzata football player Tommy Becker left the University of Minnesota, where he was receiving a full ride, for D-III St. Thomas and no athletic aid. He hesitated about leaving his full ride behind, "but I was unhappy and I didn't want to cheat the Gophers out of a scholarship by not being committed," he said. Mike Moberg played basketball at Maple Grove and accepted a scholarship at Division I Niagara (N.Y.) University even though he said he "didn't have a huge passion" for the D-I level but didn't want to pass up the opportunity. "When you're recruited by D-I schools, people kind of expect you to go D-I," said Moberg, who left the Niagara team after the first seven games of his freshman year and now plays basketball at Division III Bethel. "If you're not all the way in, you're not going to make it," he said of the Division I athletic environment. The myth perpetuated Bill Maresh, father of two sons who received football scholarships -- Mike is a senior at North Dakota State and Sam had his career with the Gophers put on hold by heart surgery this summer -- said the biggest lesson his family learned was that questions must be asked. "We kind of learned as we went, and we tried to ask the right questions," he said. "Any question you have, you've got to be able to ask. 'What about books?' 'How's housing work out?' A lot of people are nervous about asking the questions." Lynn Otto, who visited Division I, II and III colleges with her three sons from Hill-Murray -- two are now at Bethel and one goes to Stanford -- offered this warning: "The key is coaches. You never know. They talk a good talk." But some parents -- many who have paid tens of thousands of dollars for training sessions, camps, clinics, and teams that travel the country -- would rather believe a lie than accept a tougher truth. That's part of the reason scholarship myths still exist. In the late 1990s, when Dan O'Brien was the football coach at Concordia (St. Paul), it was an NAIA institution that did not award athletic scholarships. O'Brien, now Gophers director of football operations, had sent a few recruiting letters to players in Texas and one of them, from Houston, wanted to come to Concordia. But he and his parents also wanted a scholarship. What followed was an elaborate ruse. The player's parents paid for O'Brien to fly in for the signing-day ceremony. Before leaving for Houston, O'Brien went to the Concordia bookstore and purchased a cap that would rest on the table in front of the young man as he signed. But the fact remained that the Golden Bears did not offer scholarships, so O'Brien had no document for the player to sign. The solution? O'Brien asked the secretary in his football office to create an official-looking "letter of intent." And on signing day, the future Concordia player and his fellow college-bound classmates were celebrities. Parents, grandparents and other relatives were on hand, the local newspaper took photos and pride was abundant. Only a few people knew that one of the kids was signing a piece of paper that meant absolutely nothing. But everybody smiled.

I think some people are getting confused with the "select" ball. If your community putts together a team from around the area, have a dad coach it, and then putting them into a "select" tourn in Beaumont than that is not the "select" ball we are talking about. I still have a problem with this but not as much as the other. I will tell you why later....   The "select" ball we are talking about are the "coaches" which get paid by parents to treat their 10 and 12 year olds like they are professional athletes, traveling everywhere and dropping them off their team due to performance. THIS HAS NO BUSINESS IN LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL !!!!! The reason why I have a problem with the first is that you are already stereotyping those kids... kids grow...... some faster than others, and "Select" makes the ones that grow or develop later give up on a sport because you are saying their not good enough. and select ball are taking the all-stars out of what ever the comunity ball (little league, Babe Ruth, etc.) so they don't have enough teams to play and shuts down the whole league.   Now "select" coaches, which get paid, are persuading their kid to quit high school, and play select year around.  This will destroy high school baseball!!!! example: my cuz was told he was he was not good enough. so he gave up. his body and coordination caught up with each other in high school, tried for the varsity baseball team his JR. year in high school, did not make it until his Sr. year, then was drafted by the Astros and is currently playing in AAA in round rock. He can't be the only one. How many more kids does this happen to???  Most would not have gone back after being told he was not good enough to play. I wish people would just realize the problem and just go back the way it was.  Community league then all-stars after. this would solve all the problems. And for all you parents who fall for the "the select ball will get your kid more exposure", remember this, only 11.7 scholarships for a div 1 school baseball team on a 30+ man roster.  Which means that they will more than likely receive a part scholarship if any.   ACEDEMIC SCHOLERSHIPS PAY FULL ADMISSIONS. GRADES ARE KEY TO A BASEBALL PLAYERS FEATURE.  The first thing a college scout asks is GPA, ACT scores, class rank, then how is his attitude.  If they can't get you in, they ant gonna waste their time. If you want to push your kid, do it in the class room just as much or even more than on the field.

IMO....select does give better competition during the summer BUT Here lies the problem....  many of those so called coaches are not trained and are PAID!!  They pick and dump their players based on performance.... even 10 and 12 year olds.... Their is some trouble coming and people are not wise to it.... it has already started in Houston in baseball and is starting in football.. people think that select is the way to go and are being persuaded by their so called select "coach" to NOT play high school and just play select..... saying that to get a scholarship that select is the way to go....NOT THE TRUTH!!!!!!! Look at it from a select coach's point of view: to get paid I have to have players...... they have to have money to pay me... so how can I get paid??? persuade them!!!! IMO select can destroy high school baseball!!!

kville fake punt and the cats get it !!!

end of 1st Kville 7 Arp 6 4&1 on thier side of the field!!

A couple of late bombs let montgomery back in the game....crosby made a D stand at end of game to win... way to hang in their coogs. ..... Coogs had over 350 yards on the ground... Way to go coogs.......now on to dawson!!!!!

contracts are contracts. and no they can not just terminate based on performance.  maybe if he did something wrong that was against the law.  I have known many of coaches who re fussed to leave and played out their contract. then did not get their contract renewed....I knew of a principal who had a buy out of his contract at Hardin-Jefferson as well.  Don't know if it was that much but it had to be somewhere in that ball park!!

bring your frog toggs tonight boys... it is raining here and has no intention of letting up till tom!!!! I bet y'all are glad that y'all are playing on a turf field now.....its going to be fun!!! [color=red][size=18pt]ATA wild cats!!!![/size][/color]

[quote name="BH88" post="712901" timestamp="1258726947"] He's being forced out by our sorry low life school board!  I think our school board needs to go!   They are making up stupid excuses and pretty much told him to resign or get fired.  Our school board is like Jerry Jones, they want a puppet on the sideline pretending to be coaching while they (school board) coach from the stands.  >:( [/quote]WOW!!!!! way to tell it like it is fan!!!  I love it!!!

We'll everyone knew this was coming, but not for the right reasons. IMO the Hill lost the best coach for the job. Not only was he 90+ wins and only 20 something losses, made playoffs 9 of 12 years, but he did a lot for the athletic program and for the kids..........But don't feel to sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into when he signed the contract.... and I am sure BH had to pay him at least 150,000 to go away, still had this year and next year to buy out.....he will be fine....all the regional coaches know him if not more..... But the tittle says "who will be the next BH coach?"  A few names come to mind but won't say till their season is over.  Just for the Barbers Hill fans...........Who would you WANT??? 

what??? ??? crosby had almost 300 yards on the ground.....and yes it is apart of their game.. they pounded the ball on off.. but have to give credit... Nederland fought their way back even with back ups in... maybe crosby's fault for underestimating them...up 3 scores in the 4th....most teams would have given up... crosby put the starters in when the game was on the line and they came through just like always.... way to step up again D......... but yes you are right.... Ned played with heat great season Nederland...... yall play with class and you have a great fan following.......

all aside.... I think 19-4A is a little bit stronger. JMO.  Crosby played a strong 3 quarters just need to finish off the game... up 35 - 19 and let them back in the game....but the D still came up strong when the game was on the line just like all year.... I have to give credit to Nederland. hard fought game.... most teams would have given up down 3 scores in the last quarter but fought back...... great season especial given the circumstances with injuries... It ended just like I perdicted... 2-2... I would like to complement the 20-4A following... yall support your team all the way through...

You are making it sound like PNG played a bad game.  they didn't.  yes you got inside the 30 a bit but it was the barbers hill D that stopped you not yourselves.  and that fumble on 4th, he was not getting the 1st anyway. Barbers Hill's D played a great game last night. Proud of you boys. PNG, for being the power house in that district, I was not that impressed. They have not improved much from the beginning of the season. I don't know if the boys did not fire off last night, but to go to state, or even past the 2nd round, you are going to need way more than you showed last night.

[quote name="outrider52" post="706981" timestamp="1258173650"] Both districts had 3 teams with winning records, two teams with .500 records.   I think 20-4A's teams with losing records (Ozen, LCM, Livingston), were probably better than 19-4A's. [/quote]yea, thats why PNG and Central steamed rolled that whole district but barley squeaks against 3 and 4 seeds in 19 4A.

good game by BH and GCM and congrants on their seasons. thought their was a fumble at the end that would have given BH a chance but refs said no so that is that. I don't know what you 20-4A guys are pumped up about your district.  That was our 3rd and 4th place teams that you had trouble with.. and ya'll were supposed to be power houses of that district.... but I think it will end it will still be 2-2 just like last year..

[quote name="dme1111" post="706139" timestamp="1258146033"] [quote author=hitman009 link=topic=62048.msg706022#msg706022 date=1258136193] [quote author=Roughrider link=topic=62048.msg706019#msg706019 date=1258135673] [quote author=dme1111 link=topic=62048.msg705976#msg705976 date=1258130875] Nederland, Port Neches, and Central will win... [/quote] I second that.....  ;) [/quote]dont see that. Crosby takes the sledge hammer to nederland!!!!! We will know about the others tonight!! [/quote] cmon buddy... don't get all excited only to get let down yet again... 19-4a stinks with the exception of dayton and a 5-5 Nederland team is going to prove that... [/quote]dont know it anyone has told you but Crosby beat dayton.........bad...... so what do you think is going to happen to your 5-5 dawgs!!!!! I think one and Q!!!!

[quote name="Roughrider" post="706019" timestamp="1258135673"] [quote author=dme1111 link=topic=62048.msg705976#msg705976 date=1258130875] Nederland, Port Neches, and Central will win... [/quote] I second that.....  ;) [/quote]dont see that. Crosby takes the sledge hammer to nederland!!!!! We will know about the others tonight!!

[quote name="oldrock" post="703472" timestamp="1257873824"] Coach of the year usually goes to a coach that has improved a program from last year.  Even though I am a Dayton fan I would say that comparing this year to last year nobody has done more for a program than Faircloth.  This has been proven all season. [/quote]I would not necessarily say that.. because last years group is a different team.  I would say coach of the year has to go to someone who has made a major impact with the kids he has [b]this [/b] year. Sill Faircloth is a front runner candidate, also think Alvarez with losing almost his whole team from last year deserves it. Flanigan could be another for turning around their season. Silsbee's coach.....

#40 is a good RB. gets his yards and a down field hard runner.  He just does not compare to the RB that are in 19 - 4A. They have a lot athletic runners there....I would rank him about 5th or 6th in that district.