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27 minutes ago, pine curtain said:
Saw where they are trying to file felony charges on him.
I don't see how that would go far if he didn't personally inflict injuries on them. From what I hear it was an optional workout and some kids opted out with no consequences.
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20 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
Never want to be in the news. Especially with injuries to young kids. Going to be difficult to recover professionally (at least in education).
Understood. Most people around town who know him don't believe he intentionally wanted to harm the kids. He's just a guy who's passionate about the game and the program and kids and values toughness because that's what was taught to him in the program. He just went too far this time and I don't think he was aware of the harm it was causing the kids at the time. Lot of folks will say he "should've known" and I don't disagree with that but we've all probably had moments where we weren't aware of things we "should've known".
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1 hour ago, Goslin said:
There's nothing else to it other than some baseless gossip from some random guy who called and told it to the page that's publicizing this info. He doesn't have any prior incidents because this is his first year coaching. He's a hometown guy who played for coach Rob 5 or 6 years ago. Went and had a good college carreer at Texas Wesleyan and came back and helped coach us to the state game his first year as an assistant coach. It hurts my heart that we're losing him but I hope he learns from this mistake and doesn't have any other incidents if he's allowed to continue coaching somewhere else. From what I hear he was just basically trying to put the young 6th graders through something simular to what him and his classmates went through and the workout was optional.
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22 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
No doubt. Not many 8th graders picking up those type of offers. Especially since he has never played a down in high school. I suspect the Tech coaches see what I see and wanted to get out in front. He will be a 5 star recruit by his Jr year.
Maybe so and it wouldn't mean a thing when the whistle blows to start the game. How many stars did this year's #1 draft pick have in high school?
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35 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
FYI, 8th grader Kaden Bryant just picked up his first P4 offer from Texas Tech. Not sure why or what the coaches at Texas Tech think they know.
They think he could probably be really good in the future. Same as many d1 programs feel about many other young athletes
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7 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:
It can be, it also can be more valuable than being a coordinator or head coach somewhere that has never been successful just to say you have coordinator or head coach experience. I imagine the people conducting interviews not only for this job but his previous jobs have vetted him to see what his roles were there and how much input he had or how much he learned from his time there.
Definitely more valuable than being unsuccessful as a HC or coordinator. But if you have successful HCs or coordinators applying than I'd probably give them the edge
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15 minutes ago, 2wedge said:
One of my favorite things each year is the fan bases who hoot and holler to run their current coach off, then when the coach leaves, they end up with someone they are disappointed with. Gonna be a blood bath in WV when they lose in the second round this year with several returning starters on both sides of the ball from last years state finalist team. Also, the coach in Gunter is gone, so this may be the year for WV.......or could've been the year if they had valued continuity over chaos.
I think it's weird you get enjoyment out of these situations but I see what your saying. I've never been one to advocate for Rob leaving although I didn't agree with everything he did for this very reason. It's like the school board just goes "any-many-miny-moe." Hope I'm wrong and things work out really well
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13 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:
Woodville currently does not fall in the majority, I was just saying that is a pretty good place to be and looks a lot better on a resume than plenty of other places out there.
I understand it looks good on a resume but I think it's an overrated credential
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50 minutes ago, TrojanWarrior08 said:
That's why I'm looking at the positives instead of everyone else on this hire.
Don't look to good other than Colmesneil to be honest though 😆
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14 minutes ago, TrojanWarrior08 said:
Well this looks like an unpopular hire within our community. The whole town is upset about this hire per Facebook.
Think he did a good job at Colmesneil if I'm not mistaking
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2 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
Will be interesting to see if WV under the new leadership can win the District. Have not accomplished that very often in school history.
Newton's loaded. It'll be tough to beat them regardless of who's coaching
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12 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:
Curious, who did you have in mind to be the new AD/HC out of the applicant list?
If not out of the list, then who were you wanting? Realistically
Didn't really have anybody in particular in mind because I didn't know who was available. Was hoping the people in charge could skim through the list and select a legit candidate. Was made to believe Neece from Anahuac may or may not have been available. I probably would rather have Neece over Clawson but we have what we have now and I'll just hope for the best. Hopefully I'm wrong
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1 hour ago, Matthew328 said:
Elgin didn't have a winning season from 2015-2020...Clawson takes over 2021...they bottom out year one 0-10...next year 7-4 in 2022...area playoffs in 2024 gotta give him some credit for turning Elgin around
I noticed that. He had 2 winning seasons durring his 4 year stay. Could be a good sign or it could be him landing there at the right time. Also noticed they gave up 30 plus 7 times last year. 60 plus 4 times. We may have given up 30 plus 7 or 8 times the last 4 or 5 years. Can't remember the last time we gave up 60 and don't want to start that now. That being said I think it would probably be best to leave that DC where he found him. I've looked at some clips from Elgin's offense last year and liked some of the things I saw. I think we could have some success if we could manage to get a good DC
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33 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:
One of 20 assistants at Aledo is probably better than being the head coach at a majority of 3A schools
Aye, may be better to be a ball boy also in that case
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24 minutes ago, oldeagle said:
Setx fan, I removed an earlier message because I thought better of it but you keep downing the Coach.
You have not met him, talked to him, discussed a scheme, been to an Elgin game, know who he will bring with him. How do you know so much more than anyone else? If you know so much put yourself in a position to make a decision. Board signups start in July.
Why are you so negative on him.
Note: no one is leaving Woodville to follow the old Coach.
Not downing him, just being honest. Doesn't look like a great hire based on what I can see so far. He's 26-51 as a head coach. Has 2 rings as an assistant at Aledo but you can only give him so much credit for winning a ring a an assistant. I'd give him more credit for that if he was at least a coordinator. Did seem to show a little improvement as a HC after his couple years at Aledo but there's not enough proof for me to be sure of that. He had winning seasons 2 of 4 years at Elgin. Don't know how much of that was due to coaching or just talent coming and going at Elgin. We'll see how it goes. I'm definitely hoping for the best though
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2 hours ago, 89Falcon said:
“Winning wise” it is a step up from Elgin to WV for a single season. It is a massive step down from Aledo.
Also, there are many coaches who would rather make 6A money vs 3A money.
He was one of 20 assistants at Aledo
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6 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
With the HC being an offensive guy he could very likely bring his own OC. I would say that is the norm and not the exception in these situations. Coordinators usually come and go with regime changes.
Understood but I'm hoping this time is the exception at least for now. Just not real comfortable with a 26-51 guy coming in not knowing much about our kids and completely doing his own thing without someone who's been here a while to help him along. And him being an offensive guy makes it even more important that we get a really good DC
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5 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
At least it is HC that has been a part of the offensive staff on State Championship teams. He should be able to help with his experience with championship offenses. Probably has good connections to get some quality offensive coaches.
That's great if he does but we need a solid DC also since our DC went to Lufkin I believe. We have a OC who knows our kids. Don't want to lose all the people who allready have relationships and a good guage on our kids abilities
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5 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
Maybe we can locate a “High School Football Coach Search Firm” ranking agency and see what data they may have on the search firm.
At least we can rest assured that the school board made the decision about who to hire.
Yea, and it was a questionable decision
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5 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
That is how search firms work. Businesses or boards pay the search firm to find candidates. They typically do not hire a search firm and then do the search themselves.
Which brings us back to my original question
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9 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
Did the search firm make the hire? Or was it the school board?
Final decision came down to the school board I believe but I hear they let the firm do most of the work
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31 minutes ago, TC2020 said:
You never know who applied and how interviews went. Whispers here were that the firm was underwhelmed be the applications received.
I'd be interested in knowing what kind of hires this firm has gotten for other programs in the past. Is the firm known to get good hires or were the school leaders being lazy and willing to let anybody handle it long as it didn't have to be them?
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37 minutes ago, 2wedge said:
Not sure what to think of this hire. I know Elgin has been fairly successful under Clawson, but honestly it feels a bit underwhelming for a state finalist program returning a bunch for another run. Could be wrong though.
Same thoughts here. 7 years experience as head coach. Three years at Louise and 4 at Elgin. Very unimpressive 26-51 record. Did seem to be a little improvement at Elgin after going 0-10 his first year there though. Has 2 state championships as an assistant at Aledo. We'll see how it turns out but I probably would have kept it inside if there weren't any better options
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6 minutes ago, lionpride08 said:
Better listen to the OC? Who is to say he won't bring in his own OC. BTW you can win a state championship without throwing the ball. Good luck to this coach he will have his hands full with this community.
Hope he brings in a really good DC. Looks like his teams are known to give up hella points
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They were 11-12 year olds. Not anywhere near adults yet but I would think old enough to forfeit an activity causing bodily harm. I would think they would have a better idea if the ground was burning the skin off their hand than he did.