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OF bobcats are preseason favorites to win district. Woodville eagles are supposed to fall off the map after changes in coaching staff and supposedly going 0-2 in scrimmages. Any thoughts on this match up? 

10 hours ago, oldeagle said:

Three (3) TSWA/Dave Campbell All-State defensive players are not on this team. Three All-Staters on a 3A D-II team are season changers. Most of the O-Line graduated. This is not the same team as last year. 
We will finish with a good season but anyone thinking we are automatic to return to state are not reasonable. 
We went to State on defense. We dominated the line of scrimmage at the start of each playoff game and took control of the games defensively. 

Defense is a issue as I mentioned earlier but it's mostly not having the right guys out there together. Need to rotate A. Sibilly, Davion Hill, and Nas Harris at the edge spots on the Dline. Need to rotate D.Barlow, C. Mayo, T. Haight, and possibly Nas Harris at the 2 DT spots. Need to rotate A. Esway, M. Menefee, K.Rigsby, A. Williams, and A. Sibilly at the 4 LB/SS spots. Look like we had the right DBs out there although they made costly mistakes that they need to clean up. I'm thinking the coaching staff was using the scrimmages to evaluate so hopefully they have it figured out. If we put the right guys out there we will have a good defense that will get better throughout the year

37 minutes ago, oldeagle said:

Three (3) TSWA/Dave Campbell All-State defensive players are not on this team. Three All-Staters on a 3A D-II team are season changers. Most of the O-Line graduated. This is not the same team as last year. 
We will finish with a good season but anyone thinking we are automatic to return to state are not reasonable. 
We went to State on defense. We dominated the line of scrimmage at the start of each playoff game and took control of the games defensively. 

Nothings automatic but we didn't have 3 all staters at the beginning of last year either. We got ballers trust me. Sky's the limit. One game at a time though 

4 hours ago, HarryDoyle said:

The Livingston ones were only out there the first 10ish plays, Woodville didn't start moving it until the guys with the different pants came in for the lions. Pretty sure those were backups/JV. Skill wise I think Woodville will be fine, but they struggled up front against the starters from Livingston.

I'm guessing you didn't see when Woodville's 1s had there first 10 or 15 snaps at the start of the scrimmage before Livingston's 1s had there first possession. Cause they definitely moved the ball every possession and were the first to cross the goal line. Would have turned around and did it going the other direction if they hadn't run out of snaps. That's the only thing that really ended any of the drives was the limited snaps in the scrimmage format 

1 hour ago, HarryDoyle said:

When the ones were out there it was all Lions, when the twos came in Woodville moved it a little better. Long way to go for this Eagles team to recreate that magic from last season.

Woodville ones and 2s both moved the ball the entire scrimmage from the begging. Livingston ones had a couple big plays resulting in back to back scores on the 4th and 5th plays of their first possession. That doesn't happen in the natural flow of a real game because when you score you kick off to the other team  (or attempt a onside) and you have to try and stop them. They never stopped Woodville's offense. They scored again on the 10th play of that same possession against Woodville's 2s and never moved the ball much after that 

2 minutes ago, jds82 said:

Would you say that they have a lack of depth on defense and skilled players (certainly compared to last season)? Due to the fact that there's several key positions that they're trying to fill and solidify, are they looking at growing pains until the experience of playing at the varsity level kicks in? 

There's less depth up front. Still got plenty skill players. 

21 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

Hearing WV was able to score a TD with Livingston scoring 3. WV 2s were able to score twice on LV JV. 
 

I am sure the WV folks are excited about the new season and the offensive improvement from last year. Keeping in mind that they could have beat Gunter last year with “better coaching” on offense. I imagine they will start "looking towards Newton" now that they scored a TD. 

Woodville 1st and second team offense moved the ball pretty consistently all during the scrimmage. Main concern is it looks like they don't have the defensive lineup figured out. First and second team defense was swapping out pretty rapidly so maybe they were evaluating and hopefully they have it figured out now. There were probably at least 2 DLine guys practicing with 2nd team that should have been with first team. I also think we need K. Rigsby playing a significant amount of snaps at OLB/MLB and D. Barlow playing around half the snaps at DT. Due to the situation with our defense I really thought Livingston should have scored more than that. They had 5 or 6 big plays scoring on 3 of them and didn't move the ball much other than that. 

1 hour ago, purpleeagle said:

One team scores 7 times the other team scores none. The team that scored 7 times did not win but they beat the heck out of them. 

Kudos to whatever your trying to say. 

30 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Are they "capable of scoring against Crockett"? We haven't seen them do that at the "current level this year". 

It wouldn't matter unless there was an actual game between the 2. Buna supposedly beat Newton in a scrimmage last year according to some posters but only loonies would think Buna would've beaten them in a game. 

Folks got a lot to say based off what they heard about a scrimmage. It's wild to me considering the fact that I know what this group is capable of based on what I've seen them do on all levels the last few years. But yall carry on 

2 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

Perhaps, but they definitely kept it to themselves. Probably don’t need to worry about Newton. 

Got 6 "games" before Newton. And you'll probably be silent and find something else to talk about during those 6 "games".  

13 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

No. At this moment it appears that WV would be unable to beat Crockett.

Yea if you can't make the difference between a scrimmage and a game. Pretty sure Woodville would beat Crockett in a actual game. Newton is a different ball game but we'll figure that out as the season moves along

First scrimmage under new coaching staff and a different system against what seems to be an improved Crockett team who's always had talent anyway. Definitely need to fix things but no real shocker here. It's what scrimmages are for. New coach is still learning the personel and players still learning to execute in the new system. We get a couple "games" deep and we're still struggling we'll hit the panic button then

1 hour ago, 89Falcon said:

Not sure about that. He gets his job done. He is a major problem for defenses because he is a mismatch for anyone. 

I'll see if I can catch him in action

7 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

He is decent. Not overly mobile but better than what you would expect. Understanding that there is more than one way to block. It is not possible to move him and the A and B gaps on his side are out of the equation for defenses. He plays G.

Sounds bout right. Probably has to take a lot of plays off

4 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

Center has one listed at 6'5" 400 and I know for certain he is well over 400. 

I wonder if he's any good. At 6'5, I'd say above 330 would probably be a bit too much in my opinion

12 minutes ago, BBfan061 said:

Correct… but no one said they were unbeatable… just that they would be favorites 

That's cool 

8 minutes ago, BBfan061 said:

I know it was just 7 on 7…. But based off what happened last week at the state 7 on 7 and Matt being there then he probably got a good view of what they have skill position wise… Hopefully we will see… but solid chance these two ain’t playing in the state semi finals.

They almost won 7on7 last year also. Doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be unbeatable. 

15 hours ago, Matthew328 said:

JMO but whoever wins R3 will be an underdog to Tidehaven in the semis (if they win R4 which is no guarantee)....Tidehaven returns the house

That's your opinion and it almost makes sense but your probably wrong again. #2 was the house and he's gone. Good bit of the exterior of the front 7 is gone.

1 hour ago, jds82 said:

Give me Woodville going undefeated into the playoffs. Yes I said it. It's time to put a stamp on the program. Not saying that Newton won't be Newton, but who cares. Just stack the box on them. Everyone in the world knows that they can't throw more than 2 yards downfield. It's Woodville's preseason and district to lose against any and every opponent they face! 

Newton returns the whole defense. We'll have a whole fresh set on the OLine. That'll probably be a tough match up. 

3 hours ago, oldeagle said:

Woodville will have a good season. My prediction is we will finish 8-2 (loss in nondistrict and Newton) our District is weak after Newton and us).  Possibly 9-1 if the ball bounces our way  

What was Coach Robinson’s record before Woodville (was it impressive)?  If you applied all your previous comments about the new guy to Coach Robinson (before Woodville hired him) you would have been against Coach Robinson being hired. 
Let’s see where the next 2-4 seasons go. 

I don't think we'll lose any preseason games honestly. Coach Rob was like 32-42 or something which is a little better but would still not look like a great hire to me if our program was where it is now back then. Our program wasn't all that good back then and the previous candidate had changed his mind and took another job so we had to take what we could get. Just happened to work out well. 

6 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

You can’t be serious.

Trinity returns a lot 

43 minutes ago, BBfan061 said:

I’d say no one challenges either Newton or Woodville in district 

Probably not but there are some other teams that might surprise. Trinity being the main one I'd keep my eye on 

Just now, BBfan061 said:

What’s your early season prediction for the Eagles ?

I like our chances to finish top 2 in district possibly challenging Newton for the DC and probably getting a rematch against Newton in the Region 3 championship. I think whoever wins region 3 has a good chance to win it all but I got Newton as the favorite in region 3 right now 

Woodville Eagles are heading into 2025 with a new HC after losing coach Rob who's been the most successful coach we've had. He's been replaced with coach Heath Clawson. Coach Clawson's head coaching career hasn't been super impressive but he's had a couple good years as an assistant at Aledo and I think he has some ideas that may work pretty well for Woodville. 

Clawson hired coach Clay Mayo as OC for 2025. Coach Mayo's resume doesn't look that great other than a year or 2 at Summer Creek but his son will be a good sized sophomore who might be able to help us out up front. 

Clawson also landed legendary coach Bill Hoppers as the 2025 DC for the Woodville Eagles. Hoppers has around 60 years coaching experience. Had a ton of winning seasons at A&M Consolidated and Navasota. Also has 6 state championship appearances and 3 rings. Would have loved to have him 10 or 15 years ago when he might have had more energy to put into it but we'll take him now as well.

Woodville retained 2 or 3 assistants from last year's staff and hired a couple new young coaches I feel pretty good about as well. 

Woodville players and coaching staff are ready to roll for 2025. Go Eagles! 🦅