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37 minutes ago, 2wedge said:
Not sure what to think of this hire. I know Elgin has been fairly successful under Clawson, but honestly it feels a bit underwhelming for a state finalist program returning a bunch for another run. Could be wrong though.
Same thoughts here. 7 years experience as head coach. Three years at Louise and 4 at Elgin. Very unimpressive 26-51 record. Did seem to be a little improvement at Elgin after going 0-10 his first year there though. Has 2 state championships as an assistant at Aledo. We'll see how it turns out but I probably would have kept it inside if there weren't any better options
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6 minutes ago, lionpride08 said:
Better listen to the OC? Who is to say he won't bring in his own OC. BTW you can win a state championship without throwing the ball. Good luck to this coach he will have his hands full with this community.
Hope he brings in a really good DC. Looks like his teams are known to give up hella points
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1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:
Wasn't just about money but that had a huge factor.
I think they're really comfortable in WW. Money might be one factor but there are plenty other advantages to staying in WW as well.
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12 minutes ago, Tiger33 said:
I never said Silsbee wouldn’t be beat. I mean to be honest we would have a senior QB that would probably fight for the job. Either way both kids would be on the field in someway. But we dont even know if his Daddy got the job.
That wasn't for you. It was for the groupie who claims nobody in the district will be able to compete for the next 4 years. And that's based on the little brother who will be a freshman next year
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1 hour ago, 89Falcon said:
Understood, you "know its there but cant find it" and "what you did find is opposite of what you are saying". FYI: 247 Sports has Bryant currently ranked as the #3 QB in the Nation and #1 in Texas.
That's really good for him to be nationally ranked in his class. A lot of kids are ranked in different rankings at one point or another. Still wasn't the best qb in the district that year like you claimed and it still doesn't guarantee nobody will come close to beating Silsbee for the next 4 years. But I understand groupies are really impressed by those type of things 👍
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4 hours ago, 89Falcon said:
LOL. Just like with Kavian, see if it comes to pass and check back. Also, don’t make up things that I didn’t say like you have done in this thread.
I haven't made nothing up. Just haven't had time to pull up all the things you were saying.
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1 hour ago, Matthew328 said:
Those are fair points, but the flip side of that is he's going to be more physically mature as he goes from being a sophomore to a junior and he'd have a much better supporting cast at Silsbee if he indeed left...you have to take that into account too..I've seen the kid in person and he's an elite talent...there's a reason he's got the offers he does for football, because he's got every tool in the belt
I've had a good look at hom also and nothing you stated is really wrong. Just go look at Falcons comments on the first page and you'll see what I have a problem with. He made an assumption regarding the next 4 years based on a kid who hasn't played high school ball yet. There's too many respectable programs in the district for that foolishness
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13 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:
That's going to be an odd exception. Nobody long term has stepped in and looked like Tom Brady... C'mon now.
Doesn't happen all the time but it happens. Just depends on the makeup of the team and the level of competition
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43 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:
While that's true to a point, there are other factors to consider. I've seen very successful HS football teams lose a QB during the season (just one guy), and it tanked their season. And that wasn't even an "elite" QB...
That probably depends on the level of competition your playing against and how bad your backup is. I remember Tom Brady got injured and a guy I don't even remember stepped in and looked just like Tom Brady.
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37 minutes ago, bullets13 said:
your nose tackle is one guy. a linebacker is one guy. your average wide receiver is one guy. but an elite dual threat qb is the "one guy" who can literally take over a game by himself, assuming he has a halfway decent line in front of him. he was worth about 7 extra wins a year for WW. What would he do for a silsbee team that went 3-4 rounds deep the last 3
As a guy who pays close attention to 3A football in the area you might not believe me when I tell you this but his freshman year WW would have probably had simular results without him. They returned a lot from a playoff team including a senior qb who was pretty good. They MAY have added one or 2 extra football wins at the most because of Bryant. They lost a lot of guys this past season so the wins were largely because of him but partially because of the D1 RB they went and grabbed from across town also. And you have to take in account there will likely be a step up in competition at Silsbee.
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15 minutes ago, bullets13 said:
I agree, except for at the QB position, and WW and Silsbee are two different animals. WW football hadn't had a winning football record in a decade before they showed up. Silsbee goes 3-4 rounds deep most years. Silsbee had a really good qb the last few years. But give them a potential all-american with the talent and athleticism they're already lining up, they have the chance to do something they've never done before. Whereas you put another great basketball player on a team that usually has a bunch of great basketball players, and hey, they're doing what they normally do, but a little better.
QB position is the most important position and can effect the game a lot especially if it's a dual threat QB. But it's still just one guy. And accolades aren't doing anything for you once that whistle blows
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4 minutes ago, bullets13 said:
I understand. And the reason I said what I said is that the basketball team makes it to state all the time. Their odds will greatly increase to go back next year if the Bryants show up, but they have a shot regardless almost year in and year out. Conversely, if you take a football team that has never won state, but has gone 34-6 and won 7 playoff games over the last 3 seasons, and bring in a QB who some talk about as being the best dual-threat qb IN THE COUNTRY for his class... I just tend to think the football team might benefit even more than the basketball team.
Football is an 11 man sport. Basketball is a 5 man sport. 1 or 2 guys will make a lot bigger difference in basketball than it will in football. That's why WW won more playoff games in basketball than football with Bryant.
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5 hours ago, 89Falcon said:
Understood. You have the quotes. Nothing about "MVP". I did say (still saying along with all of the P4 football and basketball coaches that are giving him offers) he was the "best athlete in the district" multiple times.
He has been the best athlete in the district which is why he has all of the P4 offers for both football and basketball (which no one else has including everyone that played for Hitchcock) despite only being a sophomore.
Here is one for you to remember for future reference if Silsbee completes the hire: HE WILL BE THE BEST ATHLETE IN 4A2D9 AND IT WILL NOT BE CLOSE OTHER THAN HIS BROTHER WHO WILL BE A FRESHMAN.
Again there was a lot more than one thread that year. You made a lot of statements just doing what groupies do. Basing everything off accolades. Non of that matters when you line it up. Them stangs is not gone be concerned about his p4 offers when they line up at the line of scrimmage
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23 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
Yes, I predicted WW would finish 2nd and they actually finished "3rd".
Here are the quotes you were referencing (nothing said about "MVP")
"Westwood will have the single best athlete in the district (likely the region/Terry Bussey type) for the next 4 years. That is why I have them 2nd. Not bad logic though on either district."
"Even though this particular FR QB is going to end up as 4-5 start recruit (also in basketball), he is still a FR and it will be a tall order to start at QB which is why I dont think they will win the district."
Which one is inaccurate 2 years later?
You said something about him being the best player at the beginning of district play after a loss to Diboll in which he scored zero touchdowns. Not everything is on that one thread. It was all year long basically. You couldn't get enough and you was supposed to be a Coldspring coach🤣
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5 hours ago, 89Falcon said:
He was Newcomer of the Year his FR year (Would love to hear exactly what "wild" predictions" I made). Lead WW to the 2nd round of the playoffs and their best season in program history at the time. Eclipsed that last year while giving Columbus their toughest game in the playoffs (same for Kountze in basketball). Piling up offers from every college in the country for both football and basketball as a sophomore. Go find a sophomore anywhere in the state that has done more.
What are you talking about?
Don't know how 34-7 at halftime and 44-14 in the 4th is giving Columbus a game. And there were multiple big time athletes at Hitchcock who were doing what he has done as sophomore except they actually got some championship hardware in bball.
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5 hours ago, 89Falcon said:
He was Newcomer of the Year his FR year (Would love to hear exactly what "wild" predictions" I made). Lead WW to the 2nd round of the playoffs and their best season in program history at the time. Eclipsed that last year while giving Columbus their toughest game in the playoffs (same for Kountze in basketball). Piling up offers from every college in the country for both football and basketball as a sophomore. Go find a sophomore anywhere in the state that has done more.
What are you talking about?
I tried to dig up one of your comments and bring it back but it didn't post for some reason but you were saying he was the best athlete in 3A and Coldspring and Westwood would win district. Said something about him being MVP that year. CS didn't even make the playoffs and WW placed 3rd and got beat by 30 second round. Newcomer of the Year is clearly not MVP and cupcake scheduling had a lot to do with their records.
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1 hour ago, 89Falcon said:
I have been correct about the older brother. The younger is better than him. This is not a secret. Silsbee was already good without them. They are the overwhelming favorite with this addition.
You wasn't even close his freshman year. You made all kinds of wild predictions. He half way met them last season but his freshman season wasn't even close to what you were trying to make him out to be other than some preseason cupcakes
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5 hours ago, 89Falcon said:
Don’t know who could match them. About to add the two best athletes in the district. I suspect they will open the season ranked #1 in the state in basketball as well. Will be a great time to be a Silsbee fan.
Here you go again. The 8th grader has yet to play high school ball and you allready bout to be pregnant🤰 Let the kids prove themselves on the varsity level before you start handing out awards. I'm sure your probably right on the bball side but that football district is tough so you just can't assume that
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2 hours ago, 89Falcon said:
Copy that. The “scoreboard says it loudly”. Games are 4 quarters.
Of course and sometimes a couple plays within seconds of those 4 quarters can change the whole outlook of the game. Sometimes in matchups where that happens those 2 teams can play again and get a totally different result. Then you have matchups where one team dominates the majority of the downs on both sides of the ball. Those teams can probably play several times and get the same result because one team is "outclassed" by the other.
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2 hours ago, lionpride08 said:
very much true... only ones that are saying that its not is woodville fans.
Just because everybody is saying it doesn't make it true. Majority of people never thought Woodville would get there in the first place and we all know that was wrong now. Score was 7-0 at halftime before Gunter created more seperation with a couple kick returns second half.
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59 minutes ago, AverageJoe86 said:
If you watched the game...Gunter was clearly on a different level than WV.
WV's top 2-3 could hang with anyone, but 4-11 Gunter clearly had the advantage. Not sure any offensive scheme would have overcome that.
Not true at all.
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1 hour ago, lionpride08 said:
So the coach you had takes y'all further then any other coach in Woodville history going all the way to Jerry World. But its his fault y'all didn't win because he didn't open up the offense and use different weapons? Yall need someone you can utilize what y'all have? Wow no wonder he left even with the talent coming up. If the fans and community does not back the coaching staff in every way then why would he stay after taking y'all (a team that had only been 2 rounds) to the promise land. To many bleacher coaches that know better then the man and staff who got y'all there. Better hope y'all find a top coach and will put up with the experts in the bleachers or back to the bottom y'all will go.
It's life. People have opinions. If he can't deal with it then he done the right thing. Maybe people won't have opinions in Crawford. Nobody put a gun to his head and told him to leave but nobody's holding him hostage neither. Good luck to him
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7 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
No doubt. The method used this past season produced the best outcome in the history of WV. Probably be better off with someone else, get back to normal.
Last year wasn't bad at all. I don't expect we should totally get away from what we did last year. But some things could be done better and hopefully that's what we'll be working towards this upcoming year
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54 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:
One can only hope. Last you would want is some coach that want to run all the time like those Franklin coaches.
Everyone can't do what Franklin does. Different teams have different constructs. A balanced approach is probably best for Woodville. And it helps to be able to tweak it a little bit depending on the opponents strengths and weaknesses. We have players that can hurt you in different ways and we need a coach who realizes that and knows how to utilize it
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I'd be interested in knowing what kind of hires this firm has gotten for other programs in the past. Is the firm known to get good hires or were the school leaders being lazy and willing to let anybody handle it long as it didn't have to be them?