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1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said:

So they moved for athletic purposes, correct?

Sure they did, and are now coming home because the situation has improved 🤷‍♂️. Doesn't matter, because they live in the district and was going outside of it for opportunities. Good coaches tend to change the outlook for athletes who are seeking opportunities. Go figure

3 minutes ago, stevenash said:

You didn't answer the question.   What reputation existed?   When and where was he a successful high school head coach?

Now you're showing your lack of knowledge. Coach Rideaux was assistant coach at Central when they went to back to back state appearances and had some of the best players in the state. All of which went to D1 colleges and graduated or are about to. He then went to Lumberton last year after Ozen and Central combined and helped that team reach the playoffs for the first time in forever! Now he comes the HF as the head coach and makes history again. The guy is a great coach and knows the game on all 3 levels.

1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Curious as to why parents would send their kids to BISD if they lived in Hamshire-Fannett school district to begin with?

Because BISD had better coaches? That's pretty obvious. The modern day athlete isn't like the one of old. You guys are kind of showing your ages 😂. Recruiting is a combination of classroom and coaching connections. You can be a great academic school, but for an athlete you need that and a coach that can make phone calls that colleges will answer. Most would prefer both which is why many have transferred to HJ and EC over the years. 

2 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Since you are posing questions to an individual, let me pose one to you.  Are you saying that the coach never spoke to any of these new players or had discussions about coming to HF?

Why would he have to when his reputation proceeds him? 

36 minutes ago, HOOPDR3AMS said:

More embarrassed than bitter.  My school district hasn't always been the best athletically, but it's always been a good school district that did things right and we always put academics first.  There has always been talent at HF, but we've missed on coaching hires basically since Jeff Keener.  This latest hire is a miss too.  Those transfers haven't always lived in HF and the new ones won't either and everyone knows it.  I'd rather lose with our kids and coaches who do it right than openly break the rules and then brag about how great they are.  Nobody is buying it.  I'm old enough to know that winning isn't everything.

It's not bravery to point out something is wrong.  For what it's worth I've made my opinion known to the principal, AD, and superintendent at HF so I'm not hiding behind an anonymous message board.

 

So what you are saying is that you don't like the coach and the new students at HF? 🤔 You honestly think schools who hire good coaches don't attract talent and retain the talent they have? The problem is really that you don't like Coach Rideaux and that's evident, but the hundreds of folks that crowded the gym and thousand that followed them in their two playoff games think otherwise 🤷‍♂️. HF is an open enrollment campus and can accept kids from outside the district just like HJ can. They have their stipulations and grade requirements for these students that apparently are being followed. I know for sure that many of the new faces actually live in the district and was actually attending other schools outside of it. With the hiring of Coach Rideaux, they simply transferred to the school they are zoned for. Are you making the accusation that these kids aren't smart and are in some way bypassing HF standards because of sports? 🤔 I know for sure one kid that is looking to transfer there next year is National Honor society and will graduate top of his class sooooo.....

18 minutes ago, HOOPDR3AMS said:

Might be?  What's he waiting on?  Gotta get the name changed on those water bills for 3-4 months before they turn in the paperwork?  The uproar to this year's recruits/transfers came after they already got them in.  The new district committee won't be unprepared like the old one.  The fact that the new transfer is already being discussed practically proves the move is for athletic purposes...I know, I know.  Rules don't matter.  Everyone does it.  I'm a 

Also if you know anything about NCAA rules and recruiting, you have to graduate from an NCAA approved high school. That could be the main reason for moving to an ISD now. UIL wouldn't interfere with a kid moving to be eligible for a scholarship by the NCAA. 

11 minutes ago, HOOPDR3AMS said:

Might be?  What's he waiting on?  Gotta get the name changed on those water bills for 3-4 months before they turn in the paperwork?  The uproar to this year's recruits/transfers came after they already got them in.  The new district committee won't be unprepared like the old one.  The fact that the new transfer is already being discussed practically proves the move is for athletic purposes...I know, I know.  Rules don't matter.  Everyone does it.  I'm a fool!

Lol, the only difference is this kid isn't coming from another UIL school and family already lives in the district! 😂😂 He's just deciding to finish his high school education at an ISD school. 

1 hour ago, BearEssentials97 said:

You act like the other teams don't have people coming back and new kids coming up from the lower levels.

HF isn't the program yet where people outside of Western Jefferson County say they're a title contender. Glad y'all are improved, but I will enjoy watching you leave the Lions Den with Horns sawed off. 

By this time next year, you may be happy that the UIL takes 4 teams per district. 

They only thing HJ and Huffman going to do is make false accusations against HF all before district start because the team they will gave next year will be dominant. They might be getting this areas best kept secret next year. If they do, it's a wrap! 

1 hour ago, BearEssentials97 said:

The hierarchy of 4A ball in the area is Silsbee, Huffman and HJ, with everyone else scuffing and occasionally having an exceptional season.

The longhorns had a good season. It's been a while since they were competitive. But each year is different. HJ and Hargrave are probably going to be the favorites for the district title, as they should. They both have long time coaches and well established programs that keep the level of play steady.

And while Silsbee may step back, their team will be good enough to make the regional tournament if they get a good draw. They're still the team to beat in the area in this classification.

I wouldn't schedule a playoff spot for HF just yet. Livingston returns most of their team and Splendora will be much better. Shepherd lost 6 seniors but they still have a good center that alters shots (he's every bit of 6-9). Liberty will be improved too.

A good team is going to miss the playoffs. The Lions had a good year before with 19 wins and then sleep walked in 2020 and almost missed the playoffs. When a team hasn't made it in a long time and then gets there, there can be a hangover. That's going to be the test, how will your squad respond to it's first taste of success and teams giving your their max effort because you are now considered a good program building win.

HJ and Huffman come ready for war every year. I can't see them ceding the title easily.  Y'all gonna have to show me before I believe y'all belong in the top tier.

HJ and Huffman will be solid teams as always, but what HF has coming back along with what may be possibly joining them? That district is about to be shook up for sure and some folks in their feelings! 😂 

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Going off past seasons, it's very rare for Silsbee to schedule other 4A schools in non district. Only ones in the past 5 years were HJ, Center and LaMarque. As for tourneys, Hamshire-Fannett has never been in same tournament as Silsbee. Silsbee doesn't play in local tourneys.

I will be surprised if HF is on Silsbee's schedule.

Your judging based on past HF season's. New Coach = new program and change. They will play Silsbee for sure. Also Silsbee will be in a rebuilding season. Those top names aren't there anymore so the invites to previous tournaments will not be there next year. They will play more local I'm sure to give their young new team time to build confidence. Top Tournaments do not invite schools, they invite top players. The school they are at just receives the benefit of it. Silsbee has had the benefit of having some of the best players in the state and country the past 3-4 years. They have to rebuild now with all of them gone. Player name recognition is what garners invites, not school name.

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

You assuming these two will play each other?

Of course they will, maybe once or twice. The coaches will work it out before district or they will meet in a tournament somewhere. They'll play each other though I'm sure.

8 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I don't have a problem with HF so that's not debatable. Silsbee could have taken HF lightly after beating them by 20+ at HF. That could have more to do with HF winning than their adjustments.

Possible, HF needed to win more then Silsbee did at that point to make the playoffs. They made adjustments, Silsbee didn't in the second game. Next year will be a little different with Silsbee rebuilding and HF returning all their players. 

37 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

You were wrong stating I had some problem with HF basketball. You were wrong stating that HF played Silsbee tough the first time in district though Silsbee won by 20+.

That makes 3.

Care to continue?

You having an issue with HF and its newly found success is still debatable, they did play Silsbee tough which showed the adjustments that needed to be made which they did in the second meeting. 

8 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Then Virginia will receive a higher seeding than Duke?

Yes, Duke projected 3 seed, Virginia I believe will be a 2 seed. But we both know that don't always matter in the Tournament. Virginia is a little deeper then Duke. Duke has more talent in their starting. 

19 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Answer my question.  Who will go further in the NCAA tournament.  Duke, Virginia, or Wake Forest?

Virginia 

8 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Well, so far you have been wrong on 3 accounts in your short time here but by all means keep posting your "expert" opinions.

Wrong? 😂😂 Everything I said is based on the future season. I was only wrong on Coach Pace. Unless you gave a crystal ball or time machine 

14 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I have no problem with HF. Good folk there.

I just call out posters who want to make bold comments and act like "they know" over others. You make such profound comments on Hamshire-Fannett one would assume you would know who the middle school coach was or at least know Coach Pace wasn't there.

Using words like "will" and "best" can come back to haunt you.

😂😂😂come back to haunt me? Dude this is an opinionated forum, none of us know exactly what will happen just our opinions based on what we believe. Lol 

16 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

One that seems to have the "pulse" of Hamshire-Fannett basketball (at least based on your comments) should know that Coach Pace is at Lumberton now and not at HF middle school.

Perhaps your knowledge is not that great after all. Not enough at least to question anyone else's knowledge of "area" high school hoops.

I guess I will have to take your future post on this sport with a grain of salt.

Take it how you want. Apparently you have a specific problem with the HF program's turn around or maybe just Coach Rideaux. Either way, everything I said will show next year. I thought Coach Pace was still there, that's my mistake, as yours will be shown next season if the Lord says the same and you see it 

17 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Duke recently lost to Virginia and Wake Forest.   Wanna make a bet who gets the furthest in the NCAA tourney? ( and by the way,  the ex HJ player who made that shot for HF shoots holes in your claim that other than the two new kids on Varsity and the one on JV are the only non HF program kids in the mix).  The HJ victory at HJ was never in doubt.  Which final score between HJ and HF better describes barely?

Virginia is a recent national champion and duke has been bounced early the last few years. Things change my friend when a school finally gets a good coach and a couple players. Also HF is open enrollment. Any kid can go there so nothing illegal going on there if that's what you are trying to say

2 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Barely won?  Yea, right.   HJ led the entire game and a long three by a seldom used player toward the end made it a 3 point game.  Being down a key player does make a difference and being without two at crunch time is a huge difference.  Speaking of hilarious, I thought it was pretty hilarious that the put back at the end made by HF was made by a former HJ player who, no doubt, moved to HF for "educational opportunities."

Wining by 3 is barely winning my friend regardless of whether you lead the whole game or not. 🤷‍♂️

1 minute ago, whsalum said:

If he’s coaching the team he’s working in two different school districts 🤦‍♂️

Then I stand corrected, I thought he was still there. 🤷‍♂️

10 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

So, you are saying that Coach Pace is at HF Middle school, correct?

Would you say you are very "in tune" to Hamshire-Fannett basketball?

My answer didn't follow your quote, but I gave one

3 minutes ago, stevenash said:

Celtics lost to rockets by one last night.    If Kemba Walker had played, would it have made a difference?  And, it would seem to me that finishing first versus fourth is a good reflection of how much better someone is than someone else

If you're that much better then someone, then you beat them both times. Also what's the excuse in the first game? HJ barely won. Silsbee can argue those semantics due to the first meeting, but not HJ. Also it's all about adjustments on the coaching level. Being down one player shouldn't make a difference 8f you're that much better

I dont believe he's coaching the team, just involved. He took time off from coaching for family. But you never really stop coaching. I like coach Pace, he's a good guy just took the job at the wrong time in life last year. What does that matter?

Just now, stevenash said:

You already stated that HF will hilariously sweep HJ next season.  I also wish to remind you that the HF victory at HF against HJ was with HJ playing minus a starter ( and a very good one at that) and their post player not playing the last three minutes.  In spite of that, it took a put back rebound very close to the buzzer to get the win.   Winning by one at home at the last second with the other team missing two starters at crunch time is somewhat less than convincing.

If you're that much better then someone, then you should be able to beat them under those conditions. 🤷‍♂️