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5 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Or it could have been that Silsbee took them lightly after beating them at HF by 20+.

Again, what about Coach Pace?

What about him? He was there last year and from what I saw is still in the district. Not sure what you are asking? 

Just now, AggiesAreWe said:

Silsbee beat HF the first time by 20+

What about Coach Pace at middle school?

Fear and unbelief causes a lot of defeats my friend. The second round showed they had fixed that and Coach Rideaux had a better game plan.

Just now, stevenash said:

Since they beat the top two teams in the district, why did they finish fourth?

Youth and inexperience. Mental toughness and belief is a big part of winning. Being that HJ and Silsbee are traditionally great teams, I pretty sure that was on the minds of those players. Many if which was there last year and got their heads beat in. But after playing them close at their place, the belief in beating them becomes greater. They beat every team that they lost to except Lumberton the second time around. That's a testament to coaching and young players buying into their talent and abilities. Next year they will go into the season with that belief already there plus a full offseason. 

12 minutes ago, stevenash said:

If they hilariously sweep HJ, will they do the same to Huffman?  Will they go undefeated in the district?   ( Just an FYI- the individual who you accused of not knowing basketball, has forgotten more than you know).

FYI, I dont care what anyone knows as things change with any sport and no one knows everything. I was told by a great elder, the day you think you know everything is the day you ask for the Lord to take you home.  Anyways, I see them sweeping Huffman and having the talent to sweep HJ. The most logical outcome would be a split with HJ again, but they will have the talent to sweep them as will HJ vice versa to them.

2 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Since when has HF established themselves as a "basketball" school?

One year, placing 4th in district does not do that for a school.

BTW, even if we are only considering 10-15 "basketball" schools, I believe there are some that will be better in the backcourt than HF.

SMH, ok let's just end the conversation because apparently credit being due for the job that was done there isn't in your vocabulary. Also I specifically was talking about a backcourt on a team being among the top next year and you keep bringing up this year which is the first year of the turnaround. It's not like it's a team full of seniors and the fact that they actually beat the top two teams in their district and played them tough in the other meetings tells the tale of what's to come. I understand folks get caught up living their lives through children and some how feel threatened when something new challenges the norm, but to say that HF isn't going to compete next year in that district for the title is pretty silly and bias. Have you seen the new district? 

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

As in our coverage area on this site? That's about a 105 school coverage.

That's a pretty bold statement saying HF would have the best backcourt in our coverage area next year.

Only a handful are actual basketball schools though. Most are football and baseball. So that 105 is really only 10-15. 

1 minute ago, stevenash said:

You need to try selling that to someone who will buy it.

Don't matter whether you buy it or not, it's not your decision and your opinion doesn't trump the truth so 🤷‍♂️. HF will continue to get better and attract new students while retaining those who traditionally leave. The same as any other school in this area.

1 hour ago, HOOPDR3AMS said:

It's like the only players you seen are from Beaumont, Lumberton, and HF (Beaumont).  Interesting perspective.

No, I thought Ceasar from EC was a senior and I based most of my list off actually class rankings in the state. Many on the list are ranked players in the state and getting college looks. 

10 minutes ago, stevenash said:

HJ has one player who did not begin his 4 year varsity player at HJ.   How will that apply to HF next season, or for that matter, this season.  As for kids pursuing ( not perusing) a college education, the k-12 education system was not intended to become a road to a college basketball scholarship.  You know what the intent and the spirit of the guidelines are.    Do you think HF is adhering ( that means following) to them?  There is also a rule on this board that an individual can have only one board identity.  Do you think everyone is following that rule?

HJ has had many players over the years transfer in as well as other schools across this area that have specific success in areas of sports, education, and STEM programs. A student deciding to attend the school they are zoned for rather then leaving is now somehow a problem? Or a student seeking a better academic atmosphere by transferring into a school that has that history is now seen as a evil or a crime. These are just kids looking to make their lives better and have access to better opportunities.  As far as HF following rules? Apparently they are because they were cleared to play. As far as I know, there are only 2 new guys on varsity and 1 on JV that wasn't there last year out of 25-30 kids in the program. Both JV and Varsity had success this year. So it looks like all they needed was some real basketball coaches to choose to come to HF. It started last season with Coach Pace ( who's now at the MS) and now with Coach Rideaux. Two coaches with great knowledge that will grow that program from the ground up. So what if a few players choose to transfer in. It happens at every school every year for a lot of different reasons.

2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

You misunderstand. I want to know what you consider the "area" to be?

SETX

1 hour ago, stevenash said:

Are you saying that those that you mentioned who "already lived there" have been Hamshire residents for a long time?(as in several years)  I strongly suspect the tax rolls, historical school attendance records and county records will say otherwise.

Why do you or anyone else care how long their families have lived there? These are kids perusing a college education using a talent very few have. I don't understand why adults put so much energy in trying to keep children from that just so their area high school can win a game. If a school brings in a great coach, players will come. There's a reason why HJ and Silsbee have great programs. They've always had good coaches which attracted players. Both have players that weren't from their school district, but moved there because the opportunity in the classroom and on the court was better. Ardoin from Tekoa went to HF elementary school before and his family has had a five acre family compound in checks for over 12 years so when folks decide to challenge his move, they will look very stupid. 

7 minutes ago, whsalum said:

Didn’t Ardoin play at Tekoa Academy? 

Yeah he's played varsity there since 7th grade

14 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Which is?

You'll find out next year, probably before the summer over with 

16 minutes ago, whsalum said:

Lol , I’m pretty new to the game. A guy can’t learn but so much in 63 years in the gym. Half of the “Best backcourt “ was in a boot in the stands last year in Hamshire. Now here’s where I don’t follow you at all, “HJ had more experienced players “. They are all coming back so unless there’s an influx of seniors moving to HF then HJ will still have the most experienced players. Please don’t tell me the guard coming from Tekoa is better than Bush. 

Bush is a senior going to play D1 basketball while Ardoin is sophomore who just averages 20 plus points 10 rebs and did it against 4a and 5a schools from a charter school. They don't compare at all due to graduation differences. 

HJ had more experience as far as players being on varsity the previous year. The two best players from HF didn't play varsity last year at all and was able to help turn around a team that won only 2 games last year. It's funny how a group players and a coach who help turn around a non traditional basketball program is some how look upon as not being a threat next year? Even though they beat both of the teams that are at the top of the district. Go figure

29 minutes ago, catfever said:

Where is all of the housing located in HF school district where these transfers are living?

They already live there. They were just playing at other schools because HF basketball program was subpar. That's what happens when you actually get a real coach. Players will stay home

10 minutes ago, whsalum said:

Sorry I’m not buying it. A don’t think a group that has had to deal with Bray Bush is gonna fear a transfer guard from Tekoa. Especially one on a team that was 9-19 with some blow out losses to teams that were less than stellar. The best backcourt in that district next year will reside in Sour Lake as will their coach. 

Lol, ok. Apparently you dont know basketball that well. HF will sweep HJ next year and it will be hilarious when it happens. As far as coaching goes? Funny how the "best backcourt" got beat in HF and barely escaped them at home. HJ had more experienced players, that won't be the case next year. Also Bush is a pure scorer who gets buckets. Ardoin is a two way player that stands well over 6ft, scores and rebounds. I'm sure Coach Rideaux will enjoy having a player that can play multiple positions as well as defend them. 

The same as anyone else who says "area". 

34 minutes ago, HOOPDR3AMS said:

As I understand it, all the transfers participated in summer practices last year.  When Ardoin comes over, HF can start an entire group of transfers like a mini Yates!  But...

Tigee is working on getting the CE King job.  Going to be a heckuva commute for him and the district's best backcourt from Bmt to East Houston.  Nice knowing ya HF! 

If Ardoin goes to HF, they will win the district. No one will have an answer for him in that district at all while trying to defend the other 4 that will be on the court. Their backcourt will be the best in the district and the area

17 minutes ago, Crawford72 said:

Earnest Caeser III - EC. All State selection as a Freshman and Sophomore 

I thought he was senior this year? If he's coming back, for sure one of the best in the state 

4 minutes ago, catfever said:

So what happens when a bigger school comes knocking on Coach Rideaux’s door with more money? Does the coach stay or go? If the coach leaves, do those “new additions” leave also?

Why would he leave? His core group are sophomores. Also those kids live in the district so they would be there regardless. I think winning is more important then money for this coach. 

17 minutes ago, whsalum said:

A lot of folks around the basketball world would argue that the PG for HJ was the 2nd best player in 22-4A this year. #22 was as good as any one in that district at the post. He had 20 against Yates. Not bad for a role player. 

Still just s role player, a very good one who plays off the ball when teams double RJ. He can lead, but that's not how HJ does things. 

6 minutes ago, whsalum said:

Their backcourt won’t be better than HJ’s unless there are some new pieces to the puzzle . They also won’t have the best player in the district unless he wasn’t on campus this year. I know the kid from Huffman had a rough game against HF but he is a very good player also. 

I saw that game, he wasn't impressive at all when pressure applied. Most shooters are zone defense players and can't handle man to man. HF will have the best player in the district hands down next year, if not 2 or 3. They have a JV player that I believe will average a double double next year. Their PG will be probably be one of the tops in the district and they have a kid coming that is one of the best in the state.  He's been at a charter school the past few years due to his dad being the coach there. His family lives in Cheeks

1 minute ago, whsalum said:

HJ will have a nice mix. Hard to say who their best player is or will be because it all depends on what type game they need to play. They have a very good returning post player, their PG is probably second only to Bush in the district this year and a lot of people think the kid that missed the HF game could be their best player. They are loaded at the sophomore and junior level . They will also be able to go 10 deep next year without a drop off. I like their chances. 

They will be solid for sure, but HF will take a tremendous leap forward next year. They will have the best backcourt in the district along with the best player.  Their front court will will be solid as well. Understand Coach Rideaux had no off season with his players. They were all new to him and most new to playing varsity or leading roles and they did a complete 180. 

3 minutes ago, idiotproof1981 said:

You are missing 3 very good players from HJ PG #2 post #22 and wing #5 that team is loaded 

I have RJ Sears from HJ. To me the others are good solid role players, not game changers. 

Just now, AxeEm said:

Tyler Jackson - Nederland 

That's the tall skinny kid? Yeah he's got a lot of potential also.