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51 minutes ago, Realville said:

So I guess Trump is responsible for bringing  the China Flu to the other 184 countries too. 😂 😂 The WHO which is owned and manipulated by China said there was no human to human transmission of the China Flu in January. Facts can be Stubborn. 

Trump talked to Xi Jinping in the days before his lies. They knew. 
Pandemics are no one’s fault. The response to them is directly related to the quality of leadership on the national level.

1 minute ago, stevenash said:

Do we need more leadership like they have in Cuba and Venezuela?

Our deficit is approaching socialist levels under this failed president.

13 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

Plus all of the other ones around the globe. Orange man bad. 
 

I totally remember when every Dem was taking shots at him in January when he wanted to close our borders. He was xenophobic and overreacting, to quote the current democratic nominee for president.  
 

 

It was xenophobic. The horse was already out of the barn, and trump did the only thing he knows how to do - stoke fear that others are responsible for bringing this to our shores and make himself look heroic by shutting borders. 

2 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

What about the hundreds of thousands all around the world who died? Is it their leaders fault too, or is it just because this virus kills people?

If you look at the countries with the worst statistics, you’ll find leaders who are attempting authoritarian rule, like trump. Bolsonaro in Brazil. Modi in India. Leadership matters. The top three countries in infections and deaths. 

14 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

There’s no need to explain away somebody’s baseless allegations. 
 

He could, like every democratic in the land, be saying how climate change is the biggest threat facing the world today. Except in March we shut the world down for three weeks and suddenly you could see fish swimming in the canals in Venice. Air quality improved practically overnight in every metro area with a pollution problem. Apparently the left has (as reasonable people already knew) been fearmongering on the client change issue. 
The bottom line is this. In WWII, Winston Churchill downplayed the threats to Great Britain while the Germans were forming on the other side of the channel. It’s what great leaders do. Weak leaders exaggerate possible threats ( police violence, climate change, inequality) and great leaders minimize threats. 
But you don’t appear to follow any great leaders.... just crybabies. 

I’m sorry, Card, but you got your history wrong. I’m reading a book right now, “The Splendid and the Vile” by Eric Larsen. It is about the London Blitz and Churchill’s command of it. Chamberlain is the one who downplayed the threat. His lack of leadership failed miserably.  Churchill started sounding the alarm as soon as he became Prime Minister. Look into what he was saying well before The bombing started. He did not lie to his people.

1 hour ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

That's a better response then a personal attack on a fellow citizen.

Hell, I’m not fit to be President. Weren’t no attack.

46 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Proof?!

190000 dead behind his lies. 
 

Still no defense.

32 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

So now we need a fitness test to qualify?

The job is the test. Trump’s failed.

2 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

I would have done the same thing if I was him. 

Why?

And, still no defense.

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

I would have done the same thing if I was him. 

You ain’t fit to be President, either.

53 minutes ago, stevenash said:

We heard crickets also regarding the labeling of soldiers losers.  But we waited, and after today, now know that the accuser in the article has walked his comments back.  It wont take long until proper context is provided regarding Mr. Woodwards interview comes about and we move on to the next new weekly "allegation".

Nobody died. Trump lies, people die, and he doesn’t care so long as he wins.

When I created this post, I stated I was looking forward to the defense of trump’s big lie.  Crickets on that one.  All any of you have done is throw the whatabouts, or deflect the question by ranting about abortion. That proves a rhetorical axiom:

You can’t defend the indefensible.

On 9/9/2020 at 7:56 PM, WOSgrad said:

I thought you quit.

Never said that. Said I’d be back. I just had to get away from the acrimony. It poisons, don’t you know?

I told you all in here that Donald Trump is unfit to serve as President.

Please listen to Bob Woodward’s interview, recorded with trump’s knowledge, and try to defend his reprehensible course of action towards the virus given what he knew. He lied to all of us. If he’d have been straight with us we could have made it through this as Americans, together, and saved tens of thousands of lives and tens of millions of jobs.

I look forward to your responses.

3 hours ago, baddog said:

You stopped by for that? Lmao...and the con man gives you a trophy. Yall should get a room.

So what you are really saying is that you are rejoicing that so many people have died just so your sorry behind can possibly blame it on Trump. Typical lefty. So compassionate. It shows you really DON’T care.

You’re welcome for my input beforehand.

No, that’s how State TV reports it. It’s Donald Swamp who refuses to even acknowledge our fellow citizens’ deaths before the American public. That’s what leaders are supposed to do. Abject failure will be met with electoral repudiation. That’s basically what I said when I took off. I’ll be checkin’ in from time to time, but come November, I’ll be back.

FOX said anything about the bounty Putin put out on our soldiers in Afghanistan to the Taliban?  Swamp’s state department knew. Whether he had the time between rounds to hear about it is a whole  ‘nother thing. What’s a Commander in Chief to do?

Hey guys. Just had to stop by a minute for a quick dose of apoplexy.  National crises demand national leadership. I ‘tol ya’ll that Donald Swamp’s total lack thereof would sink his sorry ass.  C-ya!

In Union There Is Strength
I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled. The words “Equal Justice Under Law” are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly de- manding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our val- ues—our values as people and our values as a nation.
When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitu- tional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to pro- vide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in- chief, with military leadership standing alongside.
We must reject any thinking of our cities as a “bat- tlespace” that our uniformed military is called upon to “dominate.” At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we wit- nessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they them- selves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civil- ian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.
James Madison wrote in Federalist 14 that “America united with a handful of troops, or without a single sol- dier, exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign am- bition than America disunited, with a hundred thou- sand veterans ready for combat.” We do not need to mil- itarize our response to protests. We need to unite around a common purpose. And it starts by guarantee-
ing that all of us are equal before the law.
Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that “The Nazi slogan for destroying us . . . was ‘Divide and Conquer.’ Our American answer is ‘In Union there is Strength.’” We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.
Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are wit- nessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.
We can come through this trying time stronger, and with a renewed sense of purpose and respect for one an- other. The pandemic has shown us that it is not only our troops who are willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice for the safety of the community. Americans in hospitals, grocery stores, post offices, and elsewhere have put their lives on the line in order to serve their fellow citizens and their country. We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafay- ette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitu- tion. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln’s “better angels,” and listen to them, as we work to unite.
Only by adopting a new path—which means, in truth, returning to the original path of our founding ideals— will we again be a country admired and respected at home and abroad.
— Jim Mattis, former defense secretary under President Trump who resigned in protest in 2018
 
 Jump on it, acolytes of mayhem

The biggest difference between President Abraham Lincoln and Trump:

Lincoln supporters did not carry confederate flags.

Now, you can call me a troll to your heart’s content.

I enjoy debating politics, but a debate assumes two sides to an issue. In the history of our nation every president, save possibly George Washington, could have been better. In Trump’s mind, he governs perfectly, and everyone who posts here save a couple, defend every claim of perfection he makes. I’m wasting no more energy stating the opposing position only to be viewed as a “demoncrat”, a “libtard”, or a “dim”. I don’t need that crap in my life. I’ll check back in after Trump gets his ass resoundingly rejected in November. Wish I could say it’s been fun. Adios.

On 4/15/2020 at 12:10 PM, SmashMouth said:

It’s all a matter of what your goal is. If it’s saving lives, then LumRaiderFan’s point is well-made. I guess it comes down to what is an “acceptable” mortality rate? Moreover, Who decides what is acceptable? Is it the politicians, the CDC, the WHO, the UN?... Who decides that killing millions of babies (abortion) is ok? Who decides how many domestic violence cases brought on by COVID-19 sheltering in place is ok? Who decides how many suicides due to job loss, financial loss, fear, etc. brought on by COVID-19 is ok? 
If you’re basing acceptance on scale, then I guess we need a chart of acceptance based on percentages of death before the (insert entity here) decides on shutting down the world. I’m no scholar, but I can think for myself. And I think we are being lied to by everyone involved. Don’t wear a mask, because it won’t help. But healthcare professionals should definitely wear a mask. Oh wait, everybody wear a mask. 100 people can go into Academy to by ping pong balls and some Ray Ban’s, but you can’t hold church on Easter no matter what. Liquor stores are essential, but you can’t have a funeral. What in living Hell is going on folks?...

Liquor stores because the risk of alcoholics flooding ER’s with the DT’s.

On 4/13/2020 at 8:37 PM, stevenash said:

UT Alum?  Big Girl?  Associates?      No comment?  Why?

Because I’m done with you dunderheads.

On 4/10/2020 at 8:58 AM, LumRaiderFan said:

I’m good with the social distancing concept and promoting hygiene that folks should have been doing before. No need to shut down all these restaurants and businesses IMO, just take precautions. I have continued to work as well as lots of other folks in areas where there are lots of folks together with no problems.  What we shouldn’t do is allow the gov to step in with garbage original predictions of up to 250,000 dead in the US and shut everything down.  We could ban all motor vehicles in the US and save 38,000 deaths by vehicles per year but what would be the cost?  We can handle this without shutting our country down .

Do you have absolutely no concept of scale? Highway miles driven in 2018: 3.2 trillion. 38000 deaths. 600,000 covid infections, 24000 deaths. You see the difference, surely.

12 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

The CDC estimates there were 39,000,000 - 55,000,000 cases of flu last season...quite a range of error.

Did they have that many tests? no

Your numbers are based on their poor guesses, just like the numbers we are seeing with covid 19, bad guesses on poor models.

Is this something to be concerned about, yes.

Should we wreck our economy over best guesses from the so called experts that have a wide range of opinions, no.

 

 

 

 

Without a baseline, and with all numbers being mistrusted as bad guesses, what do you suggest we do to mitigate? 

4 hours ago, BS Wildcats said:

If there were enough test, that 3% would be much lower.  Is it bad, yes, but the media and Dims are trying to make it worse than it is.  

How do you know what testing would do? So far, about 10% of those tested in Texas have tested positive.