WOSdrummer99

Edgar Payne

No sir. Only 31% of the coaches that have won a title. My estimate is about 15,000 coaches have tried and failed to win one. There are approximately 1200 coaches currently active. And 17 of those have proven to be elite... 1.4% S Surratt - Carthage G Joseph - Katy J Herring - Refugio J Kay - GP North Shore R Allen - Highland Park T Westerberg - Salado C Koetting - Canadian H Carter - Lake Travis J Kasowski - Bremond K Hoffman - Mart R Rhoades - Cameron S Harrell - Ennis D Boedeker - Shiner J Gibson - Pleasant Grove J Todd - South Oak Cliff M Fannin - Franklin W Keeling - Tatum

222 out of 323 69%

Let me add some more stats... 505 total state championships By 323 different coaches 39 = 7.7% have been won in the coach's first season at a new school 22 rookies = 4%

@Reagan we need some clarification. I thought the coach needed 2 chips to qualify. Or does winning 1 in the 1st year like coach beatty at china spring make the cut? Another interesting thing with China Spring. They have 3 titles, and 2 were by 1st year coaches. Overall, rookie coaches have won 22 state championships. With an additional 17 by a coach in his first year at a new school.

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Thanks for the correction. Lol fixed it

It only took Traylor 5 seasons to win his first championship in 2004. Then again in 2009 and 2014. So replacing the elite coach wasn't easy. They promoted the OC to the position. Turner went 53-17 over 5 years with 2 trips to the semis, but no championship. Now that Menzel has taken control he has kept them right where they need to be. No need to fire someone who can't get passed Surratt and Carthage. Not many, if any, could. I've been doing some research on @Reagan 7 year theory. It has some merit. The average time needed to win a championship is 8.7 seasons. With most coming less than 7 seasons at a new school. While cruching the numbers and making a list of those deemed Elite. I noticed that every time WOS lost in the final, it was to another Elite coach. Paris in 88, coach Wilson won his first in his 6th season and won another with Tyler in 84 Ennis in 2000, coach Harrell won his first in his 7th season. Then again in 2001 and 2004. Gilmer in 14, coach Traylor won his first in 2004 after 5 season. Then again in 2009 and 2014. Pleasant Grove in 17, coach Gibson won in his 4th season and again in 2019.

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Great interview. Very impressed by the new coach. Experience should be a prerequisite for some programs

Is WOS already out of playoffs?

His authority has grown since the November board meeting. He is now authorized to make hires without board approval. Maybe this is standard practice. I'm just getting my toes wet on the political/administration aspect. Still time to decide for a run or not.

Correct. Our kids have played their butts off. Just to make some of these games close. The same athleticism that almost won on the field in the fall. Sounds like a lil direction would go a long way and in game coaching would make the difference. And to hear it from outsiders with no dog in the fight confirms my suspensions. Just like when aggies said the game was lost on the sideline last fall. One common denominator for all this is... I've already said too much.

We can't blame coaches or players these days