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Rusted, I knew you were frustrated. I have been reading and responding to your posts for a while now and knew after sleeping on it you would realize that most of your comments were made in frustration. I have been there recently with our situation last year. I eventually just decided I would stick to a 12 hour rule, no posting within 12 hours after a game! ;D Mathews has his faults as a coach, but I think the good people of Vidor, yourself included Rusted, have to have the utmost respect for what he has done with the program over there. Vidor is no longer the laughing stock of the area. Won't be many more Homecoming games with Vidor as the opponnent! They play harder from start to finish than just about anyother team we face each year. That's a tone set by the coaching staff.

Rusted, is there any chance that you guys get the Utterback kid back this year? I tell you what, I think you guys should really throw the ball a little more early in games. You don't have to throw alot, but at least enough to keep the good defenses honest early. You will need it in the playoffs.

I think you will be the first to agree this ain't last years NDN's. We were told by all of the Permian folks that Faircloth's team would be better prepaired than every opponent. Sometimes outmanned, but never outplanned! We see it now! Great win NDN's. Also, so if PNG kneels down and Vidor uses those two timeouts and we punt and Vidor scores (28-20) then gets the onside and scores (28-28)! It wasn't like we were throwing bombs with 20 seconds on the clock and zero timeouts from the opponent. Just as you state that we haven't seen all of the Vidor games, so we shouldn't pass judgment on your assessment of the playcalling, you shouldn't pass judgement on Faircloth in this case. He has run the clock out several times when we could have scored more. As someone who has never been on the wrong end of the 18 point differential for a playoff spot, I wouldn't expect you to understand over in Vidor!!! Good Luck the rest of the way Pirates. Hope you make the playoffs.

Yes Nick Dozhier did cut his hand in the first quarter again ozen but i've had players tell me he is starting tonight with it bandaged up. And the cut is not on his throwing hand. They don't throw much, so that would not be my main concern. I would be more concerned with the snap. A bandaged hand could create exchange problems.

All i'm gonna say is idk if PNG was missing players or not but vidor was 3 offensive starters and 4 defensive starters. Plus i agree there were some questionable calls there but i'm not making any excuses for either team. it was a great game. both teams played hard and it brought together two of the lets say "football crazy" towns and the best two JV footballs teams in 20-4A. Its not always the best team that wins but the team that plays the best. GO PIRATES!!!!! : Usually the best team plays the best!

I tell you guys what is really great this year and hopefully for many to come is the fact that each week there are games like this in the district. Not a lot of ho hum football games in 20 4A anymore! Makes for a fun 7 weeks. Good Luck to both teams and can't wait to meet some of you Vidor fans.

If the local businesses are paying for it, like here in PN, then they would be crazy to turn it down! But how will this effect Lamars chances at a similar board? Will the Exxon Mobils of the world foot the bill for both? You know Walter will be on board (no pun intended) at Lamar. I would think that the board at the BISD complex would be an easy sell for advertisements if they put ads on both sides and face it in the right direction because of it's I-10 location!

Jeez. Falling like flies over there latley. Have any of them missed games yet?

im sure whatever the player did he had it planned out so it would happen the week of the hf game. : all the while knowing he wouldnt be missed against hf. i guess for some there always has to be an underlying motive for every action. paranoid much? Where is it that I implied he "PLANNED" it for the HF game? I simply implied that the one game that WOS could miss a key player is this one!

Is the Vidor QB (Dozier I believe) going to be able to go?

You think people will not know who it was tommorow night? Are you guys that dense? Interesting that he will miss the HF game! :

Yes. That's what I was trying to show. It is relative. especially at the larger classifications. And then when you factor in districts like Katy with open enrollment! I was watching Southlake and Miami Northwestern last year and they were talking about the fact that the district that Nothwestern was in had over 100,000 students and it was open enrollment, essentially making Northwestern a football school. I think you see that in some of the districts in texas as well. Odessa is a prime example.

Not by the UIL numbers. Vidor 1430 Which is larger than PNG at 1413.

PNG - Nederland Ozen - Central Really the only two rivalries in the 20-4A district. LCM's rival is WOS (though WOS may tell you otherwise) Vidor and LCM may become a rivalry?? Lumberton and Silsbee are rivals. And I don't know if Livingston has a rival. But playing Nederland week 10 was always great. Especially when both were vying for the DC like 1999.

The gap at the 3A and lower schools is much smaller than the gap at 4A and especially 5A schools. Large 3A is 800+ and small 3A is 400 range Large 4A is 1900+ and small 4A is 900+ Big gap Large 5A is 3500+ (some as high as 5000) and small 2000+ Huge gap Some of the powers in 5A Allen 4800 North Shore 4200 FB Hightower 3000 Odessa Permian 3300 Converse Judson before the split with the new school (Wagner) 4000+ Notice they are not as strong since. Plano 5000+ Plano East 4500 Pearland 3800 Euless Trinity 3000 Cy Falls 3500 Houston Lamar 3300 The Woodlands 3700 Dallas Skyline 5100 Spring Westfield 4000 Alief Elsik 4500 Katy 3000 Not to say the smaller 5A can't compete, but only a few really standout, Lufkin 2300, Southlake Carroll 2500 and growing, Cedar Hill 2500

That's funny, cause just the other day I was asking someone why every team PNG plays just gives up in the fourth quarter? : You really think that Vidor is the only team that plays a full 4Q's? One thing that PNG does that should bode well against Vidor's big road graders who try and wear you down, is that the NDNs have zero two way players and rotate alot especially on defense. Should make for a good test of wills on both sides.

As a PNG Fan I have to agree : Do we really need another one of these threads? Threads like this is one reason folks hate PNG!

What are you talking about? You guys have two towns over there. North Vidor and South Vidor! ;D Two Different worlds! See ya Friday Night. Good Luck

honestly i think Central and PNG should be in the top 10. says a lot about Central if they can beat a team that beat NS. I know it was a scrimmage and only so much can be taken from it, but don't forget PNG handled PAM well in August, don't remember the final, but PNG was on top. Congrats to all getting some respect. Just remeber that this area has not had a State Title at 4A or 5A since 1988. That's the main reason we get little attention. Looks like things are changing!!

Which hand? Hope he is playing Friday night!

I like what we played for MCM. Sounded like Cherokee on an old Casio. I realy think this video would pump up the crowd big time.

Well PNG has a 9th grade B team. Not sure why no game was played?

No matter where they built it someone would be upset. Can't please all of the people all of the time. I like the fact that it will shine right there on I-10 for all to see.

As I said Jack, welcome aboard! I think most of us PNG fans saw this comming during the spring. The renewed enthusiasm and precision with which the coaching staff ran things. The kids believed and the numbers went way up (kids in the program) because of it. Alot of folks said that a coaching change was not needed at PNG. They said it was lack of talent! I think they are being proven wrong. PNG may not be full of 4.4 guys, but there are enough good athletes to win when they are in the right system. 12-0 right now between JV and Varsity.

Swing and a miss x2 ;D