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On 11/5/2016 at 1:40 PM, LCM17 said:
I agree, We won't be able to give Henderson any points like we did against Navasota. Play calling has to get better. It's 3rd down and 10 yards to go and we call a qb draw.....
That's been the problem with Coach Crouch forever. It's the main reason why WO-S often scored only 14 points per game and missed the playoffs more than once during his time here. I noticed at the first portion of this season LCM was lining up in a conservative run-only style offense. It went nowhere. Several games into the schedule, LCM decides to open it up with the spread formation. Since that time, the offense has been much better. It makes no sense that Crouch did not start the season this way. His play calling on game day has a history of ridicule. Case in point - watch this video. Why in the world would you call a naked bootleg in the end zone, especially against a defense with WO-S' speed?
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12 hours ago, LCM17 said:
48 -18 LCM 5min left in the 4th
Not a good looking future for Navasota.
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Vidor winning this game is an upset I would love to see. It's a long shot, I know, but Orange County will be rooting for the Pirates. There you go, robandana...Mustang fans are in your corner, too.
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27 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:
I know what the score was. I know WOS won. I know WOS is 9-0. I know WOS is the defending state champs. I know..I know..I know.
What I want to know...is WHAT WAS THE TIME OF POSSESSION? Do you know what that means? It means that I want to know how many minutes Liberty was able to keep the ball away from the WOS offense. That is relevant information to the argument that I heard. That is the manner in which I mean they were exposed. Liberty found a weakness in WOS defense by being able to lean on them the whole game. That's all I'm saying.
Congratulations. Liberty won the time of possession.
You also win the "what if...what if...what if..." battle.
You can have all of the moral victories. We'll take the scoreboard victory.
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37 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:
Just curious. Putting in an offense that keeps the ball out of WOS's hands, racking up over 200 yards on the ground, and holding them to under 40 IS NOT a strategy for winning? So what should they have done? Business as usual and take the 60-0 loss like the rest of the district? No offense...but I was told that Liberty gave themselves the best possible chance to keep the score close as possible. Seems like a good idea to me.
I said it was their best chance to keep from giving up 50+ points and not getting shut out. Mission accomplished. But, it was not a strategy for winning. They lost 32-7. Mission failed.
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Liberty gave it their best shot. They definitely get an "A+" for the element of surprise and the effort. WO-S game planned for Liberty's regular offense, but instead they came out looking like a rugby team. They also tried at least two onside kickoffs. Kudos to their coaches and players for trying it. The biggest factor to me was not so much that Liberty got some yards, but that they used up so much clock WO-S hardly ever had the ball. Still, the final result...only 7 points. If this was being "exposed", I'd like to see another team try this. It didn't work and it won't work. For Liberty, it was worth it to keep from being shut out and not giving up 50+ points, but it is not a strategy for WINNING the game.
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12 hours ago, robanadana said:
How did this devolve into a discussion about me and Jeff Mathews from me praising Larry Neumann? Seriously.
Because you said Jeff Matthews is the best in the Golden Triangle. Check your opening comments on this thread. Let me also ask this question again...did you ever ask your good friend why he refuses to schedule WO-S in a REAL game (not a scrimmage)? He has declined to play us more than once in the last few scheduling opportunities.
12 hours ago, robanadana said:Look at his record since 2009. It takes time to build a program with a football history like Vidor. Easy to build a team when you have talent being drafted by Alabama, LSU, etc. etc.
It's easy? Then why isn't Beaumont Ozen winning district every year? They've had as much D1 talent over the years, if not more, than WO-S. But their results on the field do not show it. Why? Coaching. Since you implied WO-S having it "easy", I'll tell you that coaching has as much as anything to do with the Mustangs' sustained success. No one player on the team EVER gets preferential treatment. The Kennedale game is a good example. Two very good starting senior players were benched late in the game...one for a personal foul penalty (keeping a Kennedale drive alive after 3rd and 17) and the other one because he was showing signs of losing control of his focus and getting chippy. As a result, we almost immediately gave up two TDs because the substitute players were not as experienced to take their place on defense. But, Cornel did not care about giving up the points in order to teach those two seniors a lesson. The discipline and preparation that Cornel Thompson demands from his team is second to none in the Golden Triangle. Here's a little tidbit to offer more of my thoughts on this. Two new coaches joined the WO-S staff last summer. When they saw how WO-S prepares and how hard they are expected to practice, they both told Coach Thompson that if their former schools practiced the way WO-S does, half their players would quit. So, please spare me it's "easy to build a program" like ours comment. That was laughable. Coach Thompson is a treasure of a coach and we are extremely grateful for him.
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39 minutes ago, robanadana said:
Would you expect anything less than homerism from me, griff? Besides, you know I support the Ponies...I was there Friday night with liltex. Blackbeard, Jean Lafitte, Jack Sparrow, robanadana...expecting nothing less. GO PIRATES!
Well, no, I would not expect different, I guess. This has nothing to do with the team I root for. My only point is you saying Matthews is THE BEST in the Golden Triangle while he has accomplished 53-67 record. I know Matthews is your buddy, but c'mon, man...
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Seriously, Rob? Jeff Matthews is THE best in the area? With a career record of 53 - 67? Is that the standard for the best in the Golden Triangle? That's total homerism, for sure, but I agree with you about Larry Neumann as one of the best...along with Cornel Thompson.
Did you ever ask Matthews why he has declined to schedule WO-S on multiple invitations?
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10 minutes ago, skipper said:
about every game this year the kids at wo-s run into BIG OLs
The only thing Liberty had success with was running straight up the gut by bunching as many of their 11 players together as possible, especially in the first half. It was like watching rugby. But they could do nothing on the edges and could not pass when attempted. It was a smart game plan by the Liberty coaches to try this "power wedge" along with chewing every second on the game clock, but this was as one-dimentional as it gets and you gotta try more than that for four quarters against WO-S. Also, just because a team has a big OL doesn't mean it's a good OL. The better ground and pound teams have linemen that have decent lateral footwork and backs who can do more than run up the middle. For all of that Liberty O-Line beef, it was still limited in it's success and not a recipe for defeating WO-S. Nice effort, though.
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5 hours ago, WOSgrad said:
Coach McCarty (an SFA University alum) left WO-S to take the coaching position at Nacgodoches High. After Nacogdoches, he went to SFA where served first as associate athletic director and then Athletic Director for the University until very recently. I think he currently lives in Alto and, yes, he still does keep up with the Mustangs.
Also worth noting is that Dan Hooks and Cornel Thompson were assistant coaches on the Steve McCarty staff. That's a LOT of football coaching consistency. It's a rare feat even in high school coaching these days.
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21 hours ago, Lion70 said:
You guys are easy . Other sites (fans ) aren't afraid nor impressed. The know WoS has played noone.
This guy probably doesn't even have his driver's license yet. I'm done bantering with the juvenile.
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52 minutes ago, Lion70 said:
Henderson has a much harder division to go through and I don't expect them to win state. You got Carthage, Kilgore, Lavega . WoS has a decent Gilmer team so it's not like they would remotely have a shot in D1.
You assume Gilmer will be there. Maybe. You live in such a small bubble of exclusivity that you don't even acknowledge the good teams from Region 4 - Navarro, Cuero, and Wharton. I got news for you...Region 4 is BETTER than Region 2. Maybe not every year, but this year they are. Furthermore, Cuero (R4) was a tougher opponent than the R2 rep last year (Celina).
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44 minutes ago, WOSgrad said:
Yeah..."the rest of the state"...translation - my buds over at smoaky. That's a small world.
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10 minutes ago, Lion70 said:
Lol we missed the post Season last year with a 7-3 record. The rest of the state ain't impressed with WoS until they dominate like that in the playoffs. Bi District against Houston Scarborough doesn't count.
This is one of those smoaky smart arses. Please, take your silly east Texas superiority complex back to that site. If you want to have an adult conversation here, try again. WO-S fans don't care if you're not impressed. We could win 50 state titles in a row and you would still bring up some ridiculous point like playing Scarborough in the first round. Either find a little maturity and sensible perspective or go back to playing with your crayons at the smoaky daycare center.
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Wow...how the mighty have fallen.
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7 hours ago, HasBeen36 said:
I hear that the Cowboys have already contacted him to join the team. They love shady.
I knew someone would make this comment.
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10 hours ago, TEXSTATE86 said:
Just like the umpire didn't see the Needville Softball catcher!!! Open your EYES.
This is a football forum. Please take that to the softball page and discuss it there.
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On 10/15/2016 at 3:52 PM, setxnative96 said:
Lib 56 Hj 21
It's hard to imagine HJ scoring 21 on Liberty while running that barnyard offense.
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Grad, I'm happy to see you've accepted my term of endearment - "Da Warden". Lol.
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Exactly. It was to make my point about Crouch's HISTORY of play calling. I could post videos from this year and many past years of Crouch's offenses, but this one by itself says plenty.
LCM17, I feel your grief. My intent with these posts is not to get others to pile on Crouch, but to agree with your point about the playcalling under said coach.