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  1. WOW! That's a lot closer than I thought it would be. Pius beat Bay City 42-0 last year.... so either Pius is way down compared to last year, or Bay City is drastically improved.... or both.
  2. Good luck to both teams.... hopefully the streak will continue and Dayton will go on to win the 22-4A title WO-S is now 9-1-0 against 4A teams since dropping to 3A. That's a better winning percentage against 4A opponents (90%) than they had when they were 4A themselves.
  3. Still missing 3 or 4 but I'll update the image as the few missing stragglers come in....
  4. So far 10 out of the 25 teams receiving votes in the 1st AP poll have lost #1 Liberty Hill beat Waco Connally 33-13 #2 Giddings beat #10 Wimberley 55-21 #3 Liberty-Eylau lost to Paris North Lamar 20-21 #4 Celina beat #11 Robinson 19-6 #5 Snyder lost to Monahans 32-41 #6 Royse City beat Kaufman 49-14 #7 Gilmer beat Monroe Richman 39-0 #8 Cuero beat Sinton 53-0 #9 Ingleside beat Tuloso-Midway 22-6 #10 Wimberley lost to #2 Giddings 21-55 #11 Robinson lost to #4 Celina 6-19 #12 Graham beat #22 Midland Greenwood 20-0 #13 West Orange-Stark beat Dayton 22-14 #14 Decatur lost to Burkburnett 10-16 #15 Hondo lost to Holy Cross 14-27 #16 Waco La Vega beat Marlin 20-12 #17 Vernon beat Altus, OK 38-8 #18 Sweetwater lost to Wichita Falls 19-40 #19 Pleasanton beat Devine 49-19 #20 Kirbyville beat Cleveland 27-0 #21 Abilene Wylie lost to Brownwood 21-28 #22 Midland Greenwood lost to #12 Graham 0-20 #23 Medina Valley lost to Beeville 14-41 #24 Canyon beat Amarillo Caprock 20-7 #25 Cameron Yoe
  5. So far 7 out of the 25 teams receiving votes in the 1st AP poll have lost #1 Liberty Hill beat Waco Connally 33-13 #2 Giddings beat #10 Wimberley 55-21 #3 Liberty-Eylau lost to Paris North Lamar 20-21 #4 Celina beat #11 Robinson 19-6 #5 Snyder lost to Monahans 32-41 #6 Royse City beat Kaufman 49-14 #7 Gilmer beat Monroe Richman 39-0 #8 Cuero beat Sinton 53-0 #9 Ingleside beat Tuloso-Midway 22-6 #10 Wimberley lost to #2 Giddings 21-55 #11 Robinson lost to #4 Celina 6-19 #12 Graham beat #22 Midland Greenwood 20-0 #13 West Orange-Stark beat Dayton 22-14 #14 Decatur lost to Burkburnett 10-16 #15 Hondo lost to Holy Cross 14-27 #16 Waco La Vega beat Marlin 20-12 #17 Vernon beat Altus, OK 38-8 #18 Sweetwater lost to Wichita Falls 12-19 #19 Pleasanton beat Devine 49-19 #20 Kirbyville beat Cleveland 27-0 #21 Abilene Wylie lost to Brownwood 21-28 #22 Midland Greenwood lost to #12 Graham 0-20 #23 Medina Valley lost to Beeville 14-41 #24 Canyon beat Amarillo Caprock 20-7 #25 Cameron Yoe
  6. Giddings 55 Wimberley 21 FINAL Celina 19 Robinson 6 FINAL
  7. Stratford 0 14 7 0 21 Cy Fair 7 3 0 7 17 FINAL Stat.......Cy Fair...Stratford Total yards 348 372 First downs 19 16 Rushes/Yds 38/227 27/144 Average rush 5.97 5.33 Comp/Atts 10/24 15/33 Pass yards 121 228 Comp pct 41.67 45.45 Punts 5 5 Punting Yards 160 188 Punting Average 32 37.6 Fumbles/Lost 1/1 3/3 Katy 13 3 7 22 45 Klein 0 0 0 0 0 FINAL Stat........Klein....Katy Total yards 65 359 First downs 2 17 Rushes/Yds 24/49 40/266 Average rush 2.04 6.65 Comp/Atts 3/11 9/19 Pass yards 16 93 Comp pct 27.27 47.37 Punts 4 0 Punting Yards 176 0 Punting Average 44 0 Fumbles/Lost 3/3 1/1 College Park 14 7 16 7 44 Tomball 0 0 0 0 0 FINAL Stat......Tomball..College Park Total yards 6 375 First downs 8 18 Rushes/Yds 31/-40 40/237 Average rush -1.29 5.93 Comp/Atts 4/10 5/7 Pass yards 46 138 Comp pct 40 71.43 Punts 5 2 Punting Yards 179 49 Punting Average 35.8 24.5 Fumbles/Lost 2/2 2/1 Pasadena Sam Rayburn 3 7 17 0 27 Waltrip 0 0 6 7 13 FINAL Stat......Sam Rayburn...Waltrip Total yards 383 132 First downs 25 7 Rushes/Yds 45/232 26/126 Average rush 5.16 4.85 Comp/Atts 14/20 1/5 Pass yards 151 6 Comp pct 70 20 Punts 2 5 Punting Yards 39 162 Punting Average 19.5 32.4 Fumbles/Lost 1/1 2/1 Elkins 7 21 19 0 47 Alvin 0 0 0 0 0 FINAL Stat........Alvin....Elkins Total yards 55 413 First downs 5 20 Rushes/Yds 27/33 35/205 Average rush 1.22 5.86 Comp/Atts 5/13 14/22 Pass yards 22 208 Comp pct 38.46 63.64 Punts 6 1 Punting Yards 289 22 Punting Average 48.17 22 Fumbles/Lost 5/1 1/1
  8. I already replied over on the 5A board about this ranking.... here's a cut and paste of my other post Their research for that ranking in Texas Monthly was pretty shoddy..... According to the article they ranked the top 20 of all time by the following method: State championships = 10 pts State runnerup = 5 pts District championship = 3 pts All 20 of their ranked programs were in the top 41 of my top 500 ranking I posted a while back (and I also came up with Wichita Falls at #1): All-Time Best UIL Texas High School Football Programs by Playoff Performance Comparing my top 20 to theirs.... there are a few major programs missing that should be in their top 10 if I'm calculating points according to their system correctly. Highland Park: 3 state titles X 10 pts + 1 runner up x 5 pts + 43 district titles X 3 pts = 169 pts. That would place them at #3 on their ranking. Breckenridge: 6 state titles x 10 pts + 32 district titles X 3 pts = 156 pts. That's good enough for #5 on their ranking Groveton: 3 state titles x 10 pts + 3 runners up X 5 pts + 34 district titles x 3 pts = 147 pts. Good enough to be #9 on their ranking. Mart: 4 state titles x 10 pts + 2 runers up x 5 pts + 31 district titles x 3 pts = 143 pts. Good enough to be #10 on their ranking. Even if I'm a few points off, all 4 should definitely make their top 20. Even WO-S would have enough pts to crack their top 20 with Midland Lee at #20 with 74 pts. WO-S: 2 titles (20 pts) + 2 runnersup (10 pts ) + 16 district titles (48pts) = 78 pts.
  9. Not to add fuel to the fire... but there's another streak we have going that would be nice to continue... just by sheer coincidence we happened to schedule the eventual local 4A district champ in our non-district schedule all 3 years since dropping to 3A and we've gone 3-0 against them. In fact, 9 out of the past 10 seasons we've either been the local 4A District champ or beaten the champ in a head-to-head match. Is Dayton really that much stronger this year? Local 4A District Champs 2006 - Dayton (7-0-0 22-4A Champs) - Week 1 WOS 26 - Dayton 9 2005 - Beaumont Central (4-0-0 20-4A Champs) - Week 3 WOS 28 - Beaumont Central 12 2004 - Nederland (5-1-0 Tri-Champs of 20-4A: Nederland won the tiebreaker) - Week 2 WOS 35 - Nederland 33 2003 - PNG (7-1-0 Champs of 20-4A) - Week 9 WOS 21 - PNG 20 2002 - Ozen (7-1-0 Champs of 20-4A) - Week 5 Ozen 7 - WOS 6 2001 - Lincoln (4-1-0 Co-champs of 20-4A: Lincoln won the head-to-head with Ned) - Week 7 WOS 24 - Lincoln 8 2000 - WOS (5-0-0 Champs of 20-4A) 1999 - PNG (6-1-0 Co-champs of 20-4A: PNG won the head-to-head with Ned) - Week 8 WOS 21 - PNG 14 1998 - WOS (7-0-0 Champs of 20-4A) 1997 - WOS ( 7-0-0 Champs of 20-4A)
  10. No team from Liberty County has ever won against WO-S in the 30 yr history of the school. Not that it can't or won't happen... it's just not a common occurrence. Last win going back before the merger.... 1970 Cleveland 18 West Orange 14
  11. WO-S is 11th and Newton 12th statewide for total wins over the past 20 years so it's between the two of them...
  12. LC-M only allowed 2 touchdowns and 16 total points to be scored against them in their first 8 games. They allowed 69 points total in the entire 12 game season, with almost half of that total coming at the hands of Willis who finally beat them 31-22 in the 2nd round of the playoffs.
  13. Nope... not by the AP. They haven't been #2 either. The highest Burkeville has ever been ranked was #3: the entire season of 1987 from Preseason thru the final poll, and also #3 in the preseason poll of 2002. They were #4 for the last 8 weeks of 1994.
  14. Since we're on the subject and you made me dig out all my old rankings data.... Teams from Southeast Texas Ranked #1 in the AP Poll (1964-2006) Largest Classification 4A 1965 - Week 1 - Baytown Lee 1971 - Week 1 thru Week 8 - Port Arthur Jefferson 1973 - Preseason thru Week 6 - Baytown Sterling 1977 - Week 5 thru Week 11 - Port Neches-Groves 5A 1981 - Week 1 thru Week 11 - Port Arthur Jefferson 2nd Largest Classification 3A 1966 - Preseason thru Week 1 - Bridge City 1971 - Week 4 thru Week 10 - Silsbee 1974 - Week 5 thru Week 7 - Beaumont South Park 1976 - Preseason thru Week 11 - Beaumont Hebert 1979 - Week 1 thru Week 6 - Jasper 1979 - Week 11 - Beaumont Hebert 4A 1986 - Preseason thru Week 1 - West Orange-Stark 1987 - Preseason thru Week 1 - Jasper 1987 - Week 3 thru Week 10 - West Orange-Stark 1988 - Preseason thru Week 1 - West Orange-Stark 1989 - Week 5 thru Week 10 - West Orange-Stark 1991 - Week 1 - West Orange-Stark 3rd Largest Classification 2A 1974 - Preseason thru Week 1 - Newton 1974 - Week 4 thru Week 5 - Hull-Daisetta 1974 - Week 6 thru Week 11 - Hamshire-Fannett 1978 - Week 6 thru Week 11 - Newton 3A 2000 - Preseason thru Week 1 - Newton 2004 - Preseason - West Orange-Stark 2004 - Week 1 - Jasper 4th Largest Classification 1A 1964 - Preseason thru Week 10 - Hull-Daisetta 2A 1988 - Preseason thru Week 3 - Corrigan-Camden 2003 - Week 1 thru Week 2 - Corrigan-Camden 2004 - Week 1 - Newton 2005 - Preseason thru Week 6 - Newton 2006 - Week 3 - Newton Smallest Classification No local team has ever been ranked #1 in the smallest classification
  15. I'm assuming you mean 1994 when they went 10-0-0. LC-M didn't break the top 10 in the AP poll in 1995. The only time during the last 40 years LC-M has been ranked by the AP was in 1994. I'll check to see if I have any other rankings from back then.... 1994 AP Poll Week 8 LC-M #10 Week 9 LC-M #10 Week 10 LC-M #9
  16. I've always thought the way the school district boundaries are drawn in Orange county were odd
  17. Wow... if WOS and LCM merged right now they'd only have an enrollment of 1945 which means they would still only be 4A. That's sad. It's interesting how the trend over the past 20 years has been for more and more schools to merge, when it was the exact opposite in the 50's and 60's. In the early 50's (prior to 1956) there were only 10 football programs competing in the UIL from Orange and Jefferson counties combined. 3 from Orange (Stark, Vidor and Orangefield) and 7 from Jefferson (PNG, Nederland, TJ, SFA, South Park, French, and Beaumont). In just 11 years that number almost doubled with 19 different programs competing in the UIL from the two counties from '67-'74. In fact, from 1968-1974 the Golden Triangle actually was divided between two 4A districts (the equivalent of 5A at the time). In 1969 there were 13 teams from the area in the largest classification. And now we're down to only having 2. Ever since PAM opened the two counties are back down to only having 13 programs total: 5 from Orange (LCM, WOS, BC, Orangefield, Vidor) and 8 from Jefferson (West Brook, Central, Ozen, Hamshire-Fannett, PAM, Nederland, PNG and Sabine Pass). Only 4 of the original 10 from fifty years ago are still intact today (and that's only if you don't count the Groves being added on to Port Neches as a major change).
  18. And here is Bridge City.... as you can imagine, the older a school is, the more difficult it is to completely fill out these tables because not only do you have to know how the team in question did each and every year, you have to know how each district opponent in each district did each and every year as well.... Their one shared title was with West Orange in 1965. Both teams were 5-0-0 in district heading in to the final game of the season. It ended in a 20-20 tie and Bridge City advanced to the playoffs due to having more penetrations 7-3. That must have been a heck of a game with all that was on the line. BC advanced all the way to the state finals that year and due to only one team per district making the playoffs West Orange stayed home with a 5-0-1 district record.
  19. Here's West Brook... I had forgotten how bad '99 and '00 were for them.
  20. I always thought St. Thomas was kind of a rival to Kelly.... the two have played for at least 13 consecutive years and probably for a lot more than that.
  21. Just making anyone who's interested aware that I'm adding in All-Time District Performance charts to the team histories as I am completing them.... I only have 3 completed but here they are. I have gotten requests to show how teams fared in district standings in my old original team history posts as there is no way to tell just looking at one team's schedule alone so this is attempting to provide information the regular game-by-game posts can't. They've got a lot of info packed in to a small area so I hope it's not too cluttered. Here's an overview of what everything means. Years that are in BLUE are years in which the team in question won an outright district title. This means that the team had the best win-loss record in district that year and that no other team tied them with the same record. Thus, if a team is shown as having won an outright district title with a 7-1-0 record. That means every other team in the district must have lost at least 2 games or more . Years that are in RED are years in which the team shared a district title. What counts as shared is any teams with the exact same win-loss record. (e.g. UIL policy is that if two teams finish atop the standings with equal 5-1-0 records, then they share the title no matter if one did beat the other in a head-to-head matchup) Rank is the seeding order in the district to determine who qualifies for the playoffs and which berth in the playoff bracket teams will fill. There are no ties as there has to be some sort of tiebreak method in order to determine who fills the district champ slot and the district runnerup slot in the Division 2 playoff brackets. If two teams have the same record, ties are broken by looking at who won the head-to-head matchup. 3-way ties are broken by looking at point differentials in only the games between the teams in question. At the top, the numbers next to 1st, 2nd and 3rd are the number of seasons finishing ranked as one of the top 3 seeds in the district. The Avg rank number at the top is the average seeding that team has finished in district over it's entire history. Size is just the number of teams aligned to each district in each year. Up at the top there's a number showing the average size of the district that team has been in over the years. In the +/- column, this is the average margin of victory (or loss) just in district games. It's a general indicator of how dominant a particular team was compared to the rest of the district in any particular year. if you add the +/- numbers of all the teams in one district together in a season they should equal 0. * - WOS went 4-1-0 on-the-field in 1992 but had to forfeit all 4 wins
  22. Anyone who saw WOS' district games last year saw a lot of worst defeats including: Jasper's worst loss since 1973 Hardin-Jefferson and Hamshire-Fannett's worst losses since at least the 1980's, posslbly earlier Bridge City's worst loss since 2001 Kirbyville and Orangefield's worst loss of the season
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