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Who says Silsbee and WO-S will stay in the same district? There's a good chance we won't with realignment coming up... WO-S and Silsbee have only been aligned in the same district 4 out of the past 16 years, and we've been in the exact same classification the entire time.... In 30 years Silsbee's never beaten WO-S in a district game so why should anyone believe that's gonna change any time soon?

The cutoff between 4A and 5A has risen drastically over the past 20 years as you can see from an old post that's in the historical section... SE Texas Realignment History In 1984 the cutoff between 4A and 5A was 1305... they're predicting that the cutoff for the next realignment will be over 2000.... Nederland's peak enrollment was at right about 1700 in the late 90's.... This post will show you who was in which district every year going back to the early 50's.... District records by season

And since I'm in a rankings frame of mind.... East Chambers cracks the top 10 Statewide in a different ranking... Consecutive Regular Season Game Wins - Longest Active Streaks Statewide (as of 10/8/07) 1. 65 - Galena Park North Shore (5A) 2. 37 - Celina (3A) 3. 33 - Highland Park (4A) 4. 24 - Katy (5A) 5. 21 - New Deal (1A) 6. 19 - Gilmer (3A) 7. 17 - Corpus Christi Calallen (4A) 8. 15 - Giddings (3A) 8. 15 - East Chambers (2A) Lufkin's 36 game streak was ended by Longview last weekend.. Cuero's 41 game streak was ended by Liberty Hill 2 weeks ago... Longest Current District Game Winning Streaks among 3A teams 1. 29 - Gilmer 2. 22 - West Orange-Stark 3. 21 - Celina 4. 20 - Cuero 5. 19 - Zapata

Dave Campbell's new rankings just came out too... WO-S is up to 7th on that one, but they have Newton and Nederland in the same spots as the AP. Texas Football/State Farm Class 2A Top 25 Rankings Rank School Prv Last Week This Week 1 Mart (5-0) 1 d. Leon 41-7 Elkhart 2 Coleman (5-0) 2 d. Grape Creek 35-0 Wall 3 Refugio (6-0) 3 d. Three Rivers 48-27 George West 4 Elysian Fields (5-0) 4 d. Garrison 54-12 at Arp 5 Cisco (5-0) 5 open at Paradise 6 Holliday (5-0) 6 d. Chico 33-14 Nocona 7 Tatum (4-1) 7 d. Arp 34-24 at Waskom 8 Caddo Mills (5-0) 8 open Edgewood 9 Rice Consolidated (5-0) 9 d. Edna 53-35 at Tidehaven 10 Idalou (5-0) 10 open at Lubbock Roosevelt 11 Jefferson (4-1) 11 d. New Diana 26-10 Big Sandy Harmony 12 Newton (2-2) 12 open at Corrigan-Camden 13 Farmersville (3-2) 13 open at Leonard 14 Salado (5-0) 14 d. Jarrell 23-6 Rogers 15 Childress (4-0) 15 open at Floydada 16 Muleshoe (5-1) 16 d. Am. Highland Park 64-0 at Tulia 17 Stratford (4-1) 17 d. 3A Stratford 31-0 at Spearman 18 Stockdale (5-0) 18 d. Nixon-Smiley 40-0 at Yorktown 19 Teague (5-0) 19 d. Riesel 59-0 Buffalo 20 East Chambers (5-0) 20 d. Deweyville 21-0 Warren 21 Marlin (3-2) 21 d. Elkhart 43-0 Riesel 22 Gunter (5-0) 22 d. Whitewright 49-6 Callisburg 23 Randolph (5-0) NR d. Poth 55-13 at Karnes City 24 Blanco (3-1) 24 game canceled at Comfort 25 New Boston (4-1) 25 d. Hooks 13-0 Redwater Texas Football/State Farm Class 3A Top 25 Rankings Rank School Prv Last Week This Week 1 Giddings (5-0) 1 open at La Grange 2 Celina (5-0) 2 d. Wakeland 36-0 at Pilot Point 3 Royse City (5-0) 3 d. Pittsburg 47-6 Nevada Community 4 Liberty Hill (5-0) 4 open Rockdale 5 Graham (6-0) 5 d. Dallas Bishop Lynch 35-0 WF Hirschi 6 Gilmer (5-0) 6 d. Atlanta 42-14 at Gladewater Sabine 7 West Orange-Stark (4-1) 9 d. Kirbyville 31-7 at Hardin-Jefferson 8 Andrews (6-0) 7 d. 4A Big Spring 33-29 at 4A Lubbock Estacado 9 Caldwell (4-0) 14 d. Hutto 49-21 at Smithville 10 Abilene Wylie (4-2) 11 d. Wimberley 34-7 Clyde 11 Ingleside (4-1) 13 d. Falfurrias 51-0 at Aransas Pass 12 Waco La Vega (5-0) 12 open China Spring 13 Snyder (5-1) 15 d. 4A Estacado 61-42 at Canyon 14 Sweetwater (4-2) 16 d. Borger 41-21 Comanche 15 Cuero (5-1) 10 l. to 4A Bay City 29-21 at Palacios 16 Prosper (4-1) 17 d. Princeton 52-3 at Frisco Wakeland 17 Rio Hondo (6-0) 18 d. Brownsville St. Joseph 61-0 Hidalgo 18 Kirbyville (4-1) 8 l. to West Orange-Stark 31-7 Orangefield 19 Pleasanton (4-2) 23 d. 4A Southside 17-14 at Somerset 20 Robinson (3-2) 20 d. Rockdale 21-0 Waco Connally 21 Burkburnett (5-1) NR d. Clyde 27-20 at Iowa Park 22 Vernon (5-1) 25 d. Breckenridge 38-19 open 23 Hidalgo (5-1) NR d. Raymondville 35-7 at Rio Hondo 24 Carthage (3-2) NR d. Mount Pleasant 21-17 at Center 25 Dallas Roosevelt (4-1) NR d. 4A Dallas Smith 31-0 Lake Worth Texas Football/State Farm Class 4A Top 25 Rankings Rank School Prv Last Week This Week 1 Copperas Cove (5-0) 1 open No. 17 Brownwood 2 Stephenville (5-0) 2 d. Alvarado 42-10 at Joshua 3 La Marque (6-0) 3 d. Angleton 32-14 at No. 18 Friendswood 4 Waco (4-1) 4 open Waco University 5 WF Rider (5-1) 5 d. Denton Guyer 48--10 Denison 6 CC Calallen (5-0) 6 open Alice 7 Highland Park (5-0) 7 d. Poteet 42-21 at Rockwall-Heath 8 Everman (5-0) 12 d. Aledo 35-28 Mineral Wells 9 New Braunfels (5-0) 9 d. Del Valle 21-16 Buda Hays 10 Dickinson (6-0) 18 d. Friendswood 21-17 at Texas City 11 Nederland (5-0) 13 d. Beaumont Central 40-29 Port Neches-Groves 12 Lake Travis (4-1) 14 d. Vista Rice 33-28 Lampasas 13 Waxahachie (5-1) 16 d. Red Oak 35-17 open 14 Kerrville Tivy (5-0) 17 d. 3A Llano 41-20 at SA Kennedy 15 Aledo (3-2) 10 l. to Everman 35-28 at Alvarado 16 Beeville Jones (4-1) 15 open at CC Miller 17 Brownwood (4-1) 8 l. to 5A Abilene Cooper 24-17 at No. 1 Copperas Cove 18 Friendswood (5-1) 11 l. to Dickinson 21-17 No. 3 La Marque 19 Keller Fossil Ridge (4-1) 19 open Saginaw 20 El Campo (5-0) 20 d. BRazosport 34-7 at Rosenberg Terry 21 Denton Ryan (2-3) 21 d. Wichita Falls 38-21 Sherman 22 Lamar Consolidated (3-2) 22 open Bay City 23 SA Alamo Heights (4-1) 23 open Fredericksburg 24 Marshall (4-1) 25 d. Pine Tree 27-14 at Hallsville 25 Cibolo Steele (5-0) NR d. Schertz Clemens 16-0 at Lockhart

Nederland missed the top 10 by 4 points Texas AP high school poll 10/08/2007 Associated Press Here is The Associated Press high school poll for Oct. 8, with first place votes in parentheses, records, points based on 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, and the team's ranking in last week's poll: Class 5A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Katy (13) 5-0 193 1 2. Southlake Carroll (6) 4-1 183 2 3. Allen 5-0 141 3 4. SA Madison (1) 6-0 134 5 5. Galena Park North Shore 5-0 123 6 6. Odessa Permian 5-0 113 7 7. Abilene 5-0 59 8 8. Smithson Valley 5-1 46 9 9. Arlington Bowie 5-0 38 10 10. Euless Trinity 4-1 21 - Others receiving votes: San Antonio Warren 12. Plano East 10. Lufkin 9. Klein Oak 7. Longview 6. DeSoto 3. Plano 1. Conroe 1. Class 4A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Copperas Cove (17) 5-0 197 1 2. Stephenville (2) 5-0 178 2 3. La Marque (1) 6-0 154 3 4. Dallas Highland Park 5-0 133 4 5. CC Calallen 5-0 107 5 6. Waco 4-1 99 6 7. WF Rider 5-1 74 8 8. New Braunfels 5-0 63 9 9. Everman 5-0 34 - 10. Brownwood 5-0 22 7 Others receiving votes: Nederland 18. Kerrville Tivy 8. Aledo 3. Keller Fossil Ridge 2. Marshall 2. Dickinson 2. El Campo 1. Friendswood 1. Livingston 1. Waxahachie 1. Class 3A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Giddings (11) 5-0 187 1 2. Liberty Hill (5) 5-0 177 2 3. Celina (2) 5-0 161 3 4. Gilmer (1) 5-0 140 4 5. Royse City (1) 5-0 130 5 6. Graham 6-0 100 6 7. Waco LaVega 5-0 64 7 8. Snyder 5-1 41 9 9. West Orange-Stark 4-1 37 10 10. Abilene Wylie 4-2 15 - Others receiving votes: Caldwell 12. Diboll 5. China Spring 5. Rio Hondo 4. Cuero 3. Ingleside 3. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau 3. Andrews 3. Dallas Roosevelt 3. Burkburnett 2. Columbia 2. Sweetwater 1. Pilot Point 1. Van 1. Class 2A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Mart (19) 5-0 199 1 2. Cisco (1) 5-0 174 2 3. Refugio 6-0 148 3 4. Elysian Fields 5-0 138 4 5. Coleman 5-0 117 5 6. Tatum 4-1 73 6 7. Holliday 5-0 71 7 8. Teague 5-0 63 8 9. Salado 5-0 30 10 10. Canadian 4-1 27 9 Others receiving votes: Itasca 9. Altair Rice 9. Newton 7. Winnie East Chambers 4. Caddo 4. Farmersville 3. Idalou 3. Corrigan-Camden 3. Universal City Randolph 2. Class 1A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Alto (17) 5-0 197 1 2. Roscoe (3) 6-0 177 2 3. Sundown 5-0 149 4 4. Normangee 5-0 137 5 5. New Deal 5-0 104 6 6. Gorman 6-0 86 7 6. Munday 5-0 86 8 8. Joaquin 4-1 41 3 9. Bremond 3-2 31 - 10. Granger 5-1 22 - Others receiving votes: D'Hanis 13. Mount Enterprise 12. Albany 11. Price Carlisle 8. Quinlan Boyles 6. Windthorst 3. Christoval 2. McCamey 2. Meridian 2. Seagraves 1. Goldthwaite 1. Pineland West Sabine 1. Valley Mills 1.

You also have to take in to consideration that those two opponents that Silsbee held to only 7 combined points are a combined 0-10 for the season. WO-S has held their two district opponents to a combined 14 points and they are a combined 7-3.

Unless there are several unexpected upsets, the Silsbee-WOS game is not going to mean anything in the playoff picture as Silsbee will be going Division I and WO-S should get the top spot from the district in Division II no matter who wins.

Not so... as it says at the beginning of the post, the games vs. the team in question are not added in. Those numbers are the records with the losses already taken out.... EC would therefore be 10-16 with the losses added back in... Shepherd 0-5 minus the loss to EC = 0-4 Orangefield 0-5 minus the loss to EC = 0-4 Hamshire-Fannett 3-2 minus the loss to EC = 3-1 Hardin-Jefferson 3-2 minus the loss to EC = 3-1 Deweyville 4-2 minus the loss to EC = 4-1 0-4 + 0-4 + 3-1 + 3-1 + 4-1 = 10-11

If somehow La Grange can beat out Bellville and Navasota for the 3rd playoff spot in District 23, Giddings will go Division I (assuming Giddings and Caldwell nab the top 2 spots). In 5A, it will all depend on which division West Brook ends up relative to Katy. If they are in different Divisions, I think West Brook could easily make a 3 or 4 round run, if not more. In 4A, whichever team goes Division I should have the easier road early on in the playoffs without a doubt, but #1 Copperas Cove will be Division I, possibly waiting in the finals. In 3A, Division I should also be quite a bit easier. 7 of the 15 undefeated teams in the state are in Region III, and the way it's looking now, all 7 of them are going to end up Division II (La Vega, China Spring, Diboll, Liberty Hill, Giddings, Caldwell, & Columbus). Whoever survives Region III will likely have Cuero and then Celina waiting next. In 2A, the Division I team has to get by Marlin and Tatum, and the Division II teams have an even tougher task trying to knock off Mart. In 1A, I don't think there are even any 2A teams that could challenge Alto in Division I. In Division II, the field is open in Regions III and IV.

Of all the current unbeaten teams in the area, Nederland is the only one that has a strength of schedule over 50%. Combined records of opponents (Strength of Schedule) thru Week 5: (games vs. the team in question are not added in, otherwise it skews it downward for the more successful teams, i.e. Ned's would be 14-12, Buna 4-22, Lumberton 4-21) Undefeated teams Nederland 14-7 (67%) East Chambers 10-11 (48%) Hardin 12-15 (44%) Kelly 8-13 (38%) Lumberton 4-16 (20%) Buna 4-17 (19%) Among the leaders in the area: Vidor 17-3 (85%) - 4 of their 5 opponents are undefeated Dayton 15-6 (71%) Hamshire-Fannett 14-6 (70%) Nederland 14-7 (67%) Bridge City 13-7 (65%) Newton 10-6 (63%) PN-G 13-8 (62%) Orangefield 12-8 (60%) Jasper 11-8 (58%) WO-S 11-9 (55%) Central 11-9 (55%) Pt Arthur Memorial 11-9 (55%) LC-M 11-10 (52%) Kirbyville 10-10 (50%) Ozen 10-10 (50%) East Chambers 10-11 (48%) Hardin 12-15 (44%) West Brook 9-12 (43%) Kelly 8-13 (38%) Hardin-Jefferson 7-14 (33%) Silsbee 4-15 (21%) Lumberton 4-16 (20%) Buna 4-17 (19%)

?? It's because there IS statistical representation of quality of opponent that that team with a loss ended up above three teams that are undefeated. Just because a potentially 5th place team starts off the season going 2-0 by beating the 7th and 8th place teams, doesn't make them better than a 2nd place team that loses to the 1st place team and starts off 1-1.

I crunched a few numbers today and these are just how the teams rank in each of the two districts using the results of all 8 district games that have been played so far. It's the optimum relative strength of each team that in retrospect would most closely explain the outcome of every game played so far. If so inclined, you can use the numbers to make predictions. Determining the difference of the numbers below for any two teams within a district should give you the predicted margin of victory or loss when those two teams play. The 21-3A numbers match the actual margins of victory for every district game played +/- 1.25 points! The error in 22-4A is a little more at +/- 5.50 points. 21-3A (best fit using results of all district games thru 2 weeks of round-robin play) 1. 54.25 - West Orange-Stark (beat H-F by 27, beat Kvile by 24) 2. 42.25 - Silsbee (beat OF by 41, beat BC by 42) 3. 29.00 - Kirbyville (beat Jasper by 15, lost to WOS by 24) 4. 28.50 - Hamshire-Fannett (lost to WOS by 27, beat H-J by 29) 5. 12.75 - Jasper (lost to Kville by 15, beat OF by 10) 6. 1.50 - Orangefield (lost to Silsbee by 41, lost Jasper by 10) 7. 0.75 - Hardin-Jefferson (beat BC by 2, lost to H-F by 29) 8. 0.00 - Bridge City (lost to H-J by 2, lost to Silsbee by 42) 22-4A (best fit using results of all district games thru 2 weeks of round-robin play) 1. 42.5 - Dayton (lost to Lumberton by 1, beat Ozen by 33) 2. 38.0 - Lumberton (beat Dayton by 1, beat Vidor by 19) 3. 29.0 - Nederland (beat Vidor by 21, beat Central by 11) 4. 22.5 - Port Neches-Groves (beat Ozen by 2, beat LCM by 28) 5. 15.0 - Beaumont Ozen (lost to PNG by 2, lost to Dayton by 33) 6. 13.5 - Vidor (lost to Ned by 21, lost to Lumberton by 19) 7. 12.5 - Beaumont Central (beat LCM by 7, lost to Ned by 11) 8. 0.00 - Little Cypress-Mauriceville (lost to Central by 7, lost to PNG by 28) Before anyone starts attacking, these rankings are not necessarily how I particularly feel teams actually rank. It's purely a statistical fit counting the results of each game played equally. (Yes, I realize Lumberton beat Dayton, but Dayton being ahead of Lumberton by 4.5 pts compared to Lumberton winning by 1 pt is within the error of 5.5 points.)

Very well said... Lumberton is 5-0-0 currently. At this point of the season last year, playing the exact same teams, Lumberton was 4-1-0 and ended the year 4-6-0. The next 5 games will tell the tale.

If Kirbyville and H-F can knock off Silsbee, WO-S would go Division I.... would be a much less difficult route to the finals...

I've never been one to make predictions but did I hit the nail on the head or what? The rest of the district needs to keep their eyes on Hamshire-Fannett. They won handily over a 3-1 Hardin-Jefferson 35-6. I wouldn't be surprised if they sneak in to a 2nd or 3rd place spot in the district. In 2006, remember they almost beat Silsbee, losing 7-13 and this year's group is much improved. Good luck to all over the coming weeks! 8)

Cuero scored 35 against defending champs Liberty Hill and almost beat them 2 weeks ago... Bay City 22 Cuero 7 4th Q

FYI guys.. Bay City 22 Cuero 7 3rd quarter

Fewest Points Allowed Per Game thru Week 4 (among 229 4A programs statewide) 1. San Antonio Edison 5.00 1. Lumberton 5.00 3. El Campo 6.00 3. Dallas Adamson 6.00 5. Houston Davis 6.75 6. Dallas Wilson 6.80 7. San Antonio Southside 7.00 8. Livingston 8.00 9. Austin LBJ 8.20 10. Copperas Cove 8.40 11. El Paso Burges 9.25 12 Dickinson 9.60 13 Highland Park 9.75 14. Brazosport 10.00 15. Port Lavaca Calhoun 10.25 15. Rockwall-Heath 10.25 17. Henderson 10.50 17. El Paso Del Valle 10.50 19. La Marque 11.00 19. Brownwood 11.00 21. Port Neches-Groves 11.25 21. Aledo 11.25 21. El Paso Austin 11.25 24. Midlothian 11.40 25. McKinney North 11.50 25.Lake Dallas 11.50

The newest maxpreps rankings are kind of interesting.... Link to original source Their predictions for next week: WO-S 21, Kirbyville 17 Dayton 26, Ozen 6 Lumberton 27, Vidor 8 PN-G 17, LC-M 13 Nederland 21, Central 20 Silsbee 41, Bridge City 19 Jasper 21, Orangefield 10 Hamshire-Fannett 28, Hardin-Jefferson 17 Pt Arthur Memorial 28, Atascocita 17 West Brook 31, Kingwood 14 Region III Rankings (out of 265 total teams 1A thru 5A) 1. Katy 2. Liberty Hill 3. La Marque 4. Giddings 5. Mart 6. Cypress Ridge 7. North Shore 8. Pearland 9. Strake Jesuit 10. Friendswood 11. Cypress Falls 12. Tatum 13. Waco La Vega 14. Clear Lake 15. Caldwell 16. West Brook 17. Crockett 18. El Campo 19. China Spring 20. Ft Bend Clements 21. Houston Westside 22. Nederland 23. Madisonville 24. Dickinson 25. Aldine Nimitz 26. Houston Lamar 27. Robinson 28. Elysian Fields 29. Brazoswood 30. Hughes Springs 31. Houston Stratford 32. Ft Bend Marshall 33. Beaumont Central 34. Lamar Consolidated 35. Brazosport 36. Hutto 37. Baytown Lee 38. Langham Creek 39. Galveston Ball 40. Alto 41. Pasadena Memotial 42. Cy-Fair 43. West Orange-Stark 44. Kirbyville 45. Marlin 46. Brenham 47. Lumberton 48. Carthage 49. Waco Connally 50. Teague Other Area Teams: 54. Dayton 60. Newton 72. East Chambers 77. Port Neches-Groves 79. Barbers Hill 81. Corrigan-Camden 92. Port Arthur Memorial 94. Buna 111. Hardin 118. LC-M 123. Silsbee 124. Ozen 125. Jasper 126. Woodville 128. Hamshire-Fannett 134. Vidor 159. Hardin-Jefferson 166. Deweyville 167. Kountze 170. Liberty 201. Warren 203. Orangefield 204. West Hardin 207. Bridge City 211. Cleveland 212. Hull-Daisetta 214. Anahuac 238. Tarkington 241. Burkeville 260. Sabine Pass 261. Colmesneil 264. High Island

Well since Brownwood, Waco and Copperas Cove are all in the same district, and Brownwood faces Copperas Cove next week... if Nederland can win the next two they are pretty much guaranteed someone will be losing in the top 10.

Wow, WO-S is the only area team to crack any of the Top 10's... and just barely at that... Texas AP high school poll 10/01/2007 Associated Press Here is The Associated Press high school poll for Oct. 1, with first place votes in parentheses, records, points based on 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, and the team's ranking in last week's poll: Class 5A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Katy (13) 4-0 193 1 2. Southlake Carroll (6) 3-1 177 2 3. Allen 4-0 136 5 4. Lufkin 4-0 127 6 5. SA Madison (1) 5-0 114 8 6. Galena Park North Shore 4-0 112 7 7. Odessa Permian 5-0 97 9 8. Abilene 5-0 41 10 9. Smithson Valley 4-1 26 3 10. Arlington Bowie 4-0 17 - Others receiving votes: Euless Trinity 16. San Antonio Warren 13. Plano East 10. Cedar Hill 8. Rockwall 4. Longview 3. Klein Oak 2. Plano 2. Mansfield 1. Conroe 1. Class 4A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Copperas Cove (17) 5-0 197 1 2. Stephenville (2) 4-0 178 2 3. LaMarque (1) 5-0 154 3 4. Dallas Highland Park 4-0 132 4 5. CC Calallen 5-0 99 5 6. Waco 4-1 93 7 7. Brownwood 4-0 77 8 8. WF Rider 4-1 53 9 9. New Braunfels 4-0 51 10 10. Aledo 3-1 34 6 Others receiving votes: Everman 9. Nederland 9. Kerrville Tivy 5. Friendswood 4. Wichita Falls 4. Keller Fossil Ridge 1. Class 3A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Giddings (11) 5-0 187 1 2. Liberty Hill (5) 5-0 180 2 3. Celina (3) 4-0 161 3 4. Gilmer (1) 4-0 144 4 5. Royse City 4-0 124 5 6. Graham 5-0 93 6 7. Waco LaVega 5-0 61 7 8. Cuero 4-1 60 9 9. Snyder 4-1 18 - 10. West Orange-Stark 3-1 16 - Others receiving votes: Abilene Wylie 8. Ingleside 6. Crockett 5. Kirbyville 4. Diboll 4. Vernon 4. Rio Hondo 4. China Spring 4. Caldwell 3. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau 3. Andrews 2. Burkburnett 2. Prosper 2. Frisco Wakeland 1. Columbia 1. Llano 1. Dallas Roosevelt 1. Van 1. Class 2A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Mart (19) 4-0 198 1 2. Cisco (1) 5-0 176 2 3. Refugio 5-0 153 3 4. Elysian Fields 4-0 142 4 5. Coleman 4-0 114 5 6. Tatum 3-1 79 6 7. Holliday 4-0 71 7 8. Teague 4-0 46 9 9. Canadian 4-1 32 10 10. Salado 4-0 17 - Others receiving votes: Itasca 15. Newton 7. Winnie East Chambers 7. Altair Rice 7. Caddo 6. Bushland 6. Stratford 5. Muleshoe 4. Farmersville 3. Panhandle 3. Corrigan-Camden 3. Blanco 3. Idalou 2. Childress 1. Class 1A Team Rec Pts Pvs 1. Alto (17) 4-0 188 1 2. Roscoe (2) 5-0 164 2 3. Joaquin 4-0 149 3 4. Sundown 4-0 122 4 5. Normangee 4-0 116 5 6. New Deal 5-0 79 7 7. Gorman 5-0 63 8 8. Munday 5-0 59 9 9. Goldthwaite 4-1 31 10 10. Windthorst 2-2 15 6 Others receiving votes: Bremond 12. Harper 11. Granger 10. D'Hanis 8. Price Carlisle 6. Albany 5. Quinlan Boyles 3. Mount Enterprise 3. Nazareth 1.

If I recall... Newton didn't fall after they lost their first game to Crockett... the loss to Carthage was your 2nd loss. If WO-S loses a 2nd time they will most definitely fall as well!

Two of the top defenses in the region.... Points Allowed per game after Week 4 (among all 51 Region III-3A teams) 1. West Orange-Stark 9.00 1. China Spring 9.00 3. Waco La Vega 11.20 4. Needville 12.50 5. Kirbyville 13.00 5. Crockett 13.00 7. Giddings 14.00 8. Navasota 14.50 9. Madisonville 15.50 10. Liberty Hill 16.40 11. Waco Connally 19.00 12. La Grange 19.33 13. Caldwell 19.67 14. Cameron Yoe 19.80 15. Diboll 20.25 15. Sweeny 20.25 17. Palestine Westwood 20.50 17. Brookshire Royal 20.50 19. Columbus 21.25 20. Hardin-Jefferson 21.75

It all sounds like same story, second verse to me... except, the second time around is even less exciting than the first Does no one remember 2006? Last year we heard the same hype about the unstoppable offense that scored 51 points against Cleveland (only 27 this year), 48 points against Liberty (just 38 this year) and 28 points against Jasper (only 21 tonight...) After 4 games in 2006 Kirbyville had scored 141 points against 4 teams with a combined 5-12 record. After 4 games in 2007 Kirbyville has scored 113 points against 4 teams with a combined 5-12 record. What exactly is so improved this year? Liberty scored 20 against Kirbyville in an 18 point loss last week (20 to 38). This is a team that Hamshire-Fannett beat by 18 points as well and held to less points, suggesting the H-F defense possibly could be as strong or maybe even a bit stronger. If we can score 5 TDs against H-F, we should be able to do the same against Kirbyville if not better.

Original Press around the state covering the Bulldog's playoff runs in 1956 and 1957 1956 November 30th, 1956 Bi-District: Nederland 42, La Marque 6 (pregame article) Nederland favored to go all the way December 8th, 1956 Quarterfinals: Nederland 35, Bryan 13 December 15th, 1956 Semifinals: Nederland 7, San Antonio Edison 0 December 22nd, 1956 3A State Championship: Nederland 0, Garland 3 1957 November 30th, 1957 Bi-District: Nederland 49, El Campo 7 December 6th, 1957 Quarterfinals: Nederland 41, Brenham 7 December 14th, 1957 Semifinals: Nederland 39, San Antonio Edison 0 December 21st, 1957 3A State Championship: Nederland 20, Sweetwater 7 Interesting fact: The 1957 4A and 3A State Championship games were played on the same day less than 7 miles apart, right in Southeast Texas. Nederland faced Sweetwater at Nederland and Port Arthur Jefferson played Highland Park in the 4A finals at Port Arthur.