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Wouldn't they covered under the "truly needy", to quote you. So does this mean you agree that Medicare and Medicaid is enough and we should repeal Obamacare without a replacement?

I would have to know the details of expanded Medicaid. But this sounds so much better than Obamacare/Hillarycare/Trumpcare/Ryancare/Romneycare/Obamacare Lite/ or whatever other "care" the government wants to implement. From what little I have read about Rand Paul's plan, his seems to be a pretty good idea. It's basically just allowing people that don't get insurance from their employer to be able to bargain with the insurance companies as a group.

Does this mean you agree that Medicare and Medicaid is enough and we should repeal Obamacare without a replacement?

I'm not comparing people, I'm comparing methodology on how to get things done. You seem to prefer the lock-step method in which you vote for your party instead of the merits of the bill. You are trying to disparage Trump's methodology by spouting he is not competent enough to get a deal on a bad bill. I contrasted that to Obama's methodology in which he got something done, which was an extremely bad bill, and very bad for the country. Getting things passed regardless of the merits is not a good way to conduct business. You disparage Trump for not getting a bill passed. But if he did, you would complain about how bad the bill is. We've seen this story a million times.

I agree. I had gotten frustrated enough that I decided a few months ago to feed to the same garbage back at anyone that did it. And I announced I was going to do it. And my previous post on here was me trying to exhibit as much extreme outrage as I could muster about such a silly topic, then pivot to show how that was just mockery. After re-reading it I guess I didn't illustrate the mockery part enough, and it read more as hatred than mockery. The POS word was copied from a previous post on here.

I was playing the part of a Liberal by showing extreme (and fake) outrage. That tactic should be abundantly clear to everyone since Trump's election. We've seen it enough for sure. It's funny seeing the reaction of Liberals when you use their same tactics against them.

I posted this earlier in this thread: [Hidden Content] This is from the New York Times, who is not exactly a Right wing extremist outfit...instead the polar opposite. By this post and lack of comment I'm assuming you missed this article. Do you find it worrisome or just extremely coincidental that many people involved with this deal, including the Russians, made substantial "donations" to the Clinton Foundation during the negotiations? And is it just coincidental that many of the donations have plummeted since Clinton lost the election? Frankly I haven't read enough about the situation to form an opinion, but when the New York Times publishes an article that seemingly goes against one of their fellow Liberals, it makes me think their might be something more than just coincidence.

Really, do you want to play this game? Going on past history, I really don't think you do. But I'll play along because "that's just my game". (The "Well, bye" and "I'm your Huckleberry" lines get quoted so much I figured I would add another quote from Tombstone.) Paul Ryan proposed a healthcare plan. Many members evaluated the plan and individually came to the conclusion that the plan deserved a no vote. Trump met with them to negotiate changes, but after negotiations many members still thought the plan was not in the best interest of the American people. Contrast that to the Democrats/Obama's method. The Democrats proposed a plan which many members didn't like. There was no negotiation of terms of the bill. Obama and Pelosi threatened many by withholding campaign money and support. Obama promised to provide some with various other incentives in exchange for their vote. Many voted for the plan just because Obama told them to, and they did not want to go against a fellow party member. And none of them even read the bill before they voted yes to it. And you seem to have had no problem with this, but try to disparage Trump for not being able to negotiate a healthcare plan with his party members. Thus you support blind following of the party. Even a third grader can see that thought process. Your turn. Please explain your rationale for stating "Couldn't even get his party to get on board". Do you think Trump should have used the same lock-step method employed by the Democrats to whip his party members into shape and to vote on a terrible bill? Or would you rather a method in which members negotiate to come up with a better product that serves the greater good? Please explain how you can make your statement without supporting the lock-step method. You might have to do some rather phenomenal mental gymnastics to come up with an answer.

It is not too difficult, even a 3rd grader could have ascertained that thought process.

If Trump follows through on this then he will be around 1/100th of the way of cutting what needs to be cut in the Federal government. Still a long way to go, but a good start.

By your post it is apparent that you prefer your party members to be in lock step with each other with no diversity of thought. That is, each party member will support or reject a bill, not based on merit, but on which party proposed the bill. You must be proud.

They've already been doing it for years, even with FCC regulations. I applaud Obama's attempt at controlling this, and the ones (mostly Republicans down party lines) should be removed from office in the next election, but there is a reason behind their votes. The rationale from the Republicans is that tracking and selling consumer data allows for a revenue stream for the ISPs. If they were not allowed to have this extra revenue stream, they would be forced to raised internet service fees, thus dumping the higher costs on consumers instead of marketers. Many polls and surveys (not that I trust polls or surveys) have shown that consumers prefer enduring advertisements if it means lowered costs, rather than paying higher service costs while ensuring privacy, even though they say they want privacy. I would prefer having a choice between companies...that is one company can maintain a policy that they ensure consumer privacy, but you have to pay more for the service, while another company can adopt a policy of selling consumer data while offering the services at a lowered costs. This has already been done, and consumers have overwhelmingly chose companies that use the latter policy, much to my chagrin. Thus pretty much every company has adopted this strategy. Obama's regulation did not prevent companies from selling consumer data. Instead, it made the default option set to no on selling your data, and the company has to get your explicit approval. This is being rolled back by the Republicans to return to the default option of yes to selling your data, and the consumer has to explicitly opt out. I know from experience that opting out is not even an option. Sure you can contact the company and opt out, but it becomes your responsibility to maintain proof that you opted out. Thus to win a lawsuit against companies that skirt the law becomes very, very difficult, and the companies know this. Having the default set to no shifts the burden of proof back onto the companies, and therefore more open to lawsuits. The Republicans are setting the standard to what consumers have shown they want. The Democrats prefer the standard to what the consumers say they want. I'll side with the Democrats on this issue, even though the majority of people have shown they will side with the Republicans.

He's got a long way to go to catch Obama in the lie department. Frankly, I'm fairly certain Obama has an insurmountable lead and will probably hold the title for the duration of America's existence...or at least until we elect another Democrat.

And everyone gets to show their true colors and hidden biases and latent hatred. I just respond in kind. Again, your interpretation and analytical skills are sorely lacking. Your use of the word baddass means your comprehension skills need a lot of work. You can start by looking up the meaning of sarcasm.

Many just look at this as an acceptable double standard. This double standard is acceptable to make up for all of the past ills imposed on minorities in the past, regardless of the strides many non-minorities have made. Relent an inch, expect a mile in blame.

I watched it a few times myself, initially believing the reports. The Florida coach deserves an apology for having to put up with this attempted assault. If any evidence that contradicts this initial video surfaces, I will gladly retract my statements. And ECBucFan is 100% accurate. Reversed roles wouldn't even garner a review...and the unemployment line would have increased by one.

Only a brain-dead Liberal snowflake would call for an apology for a jest that has no racial overtones whatsoever. Should you, and yes you should, apologize to every White person, and especially every Southern White person for your negative stereotypes. You holier than thou POS have metaphorically blood on your hands, then want to spout about a harmless jest. You are pathetic. You are more than pathetic, you are a hypocrite at the highest order...and I will never....let me restate that...I will never have an ounce of respect for you from here on. Just joking, I've always known you were a POS but still enjoy jabbing at your pathetic posts...and will enjoy doing it in the future. Everyone knows you have zero credibility and your attempts at race baiting are just laughable. Please keep posting...we need a good daily laugh. And since Big Girl and New Tobie rarely grace us, you are our last bastion of comic relief.

I'm confused as to who the "no answer" was directed. If it was directed at me, then I clearly stated in the first sentence I think the White House should release the logs...no ambiguity. Since I answered the question directly there is also zero deflection. Stevenash just asked if you agreed with my post...so I'm not sure who your post is directed at. I'm assuming since I added more than the question asked you are trying to play that as deflection, but I would like a clarification...and reasoning for your perplexing assumption. Of course you could have been directing the question at him, which also begs the question of why.

And just what fine institution of higher learning did you obtain your degree and qualifications to assess and make that claim? Just admit it, it's your opinion, and based on your previous posts we know how much credence to give to your opinions.

Have you ever heard of ground penetrating radar? Do you have any clue as to how much it costs to dig a tunnel? I'm sure some will try, and some might succeed, but the majority of folks will not. Are you worried a thief might dig a tunnel to get into your house? If not, why? (Think of cost effectiveness analysis when deliberating.) And do you think it might be a tip-off to the border patrol if they see hundreds of people coming out of the same house? Do you think at least one of the border agents might suspect there could possibly be a tunnel located under the house? How many people do you think can leave one location without drawing suspicion? And frankly I do not care so much for the wall as I do E-Verify and locking up and/or severely fining those that hire illegals.

Who stole your lunch money? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Trump.

Then do it. For every one you post I can post 100. You've been asked repeatedly to validate your claims, but always fail miserably. Now get back on topic or start your own. Your baseless racist claims fall on deaf ears and are of no use to anyone.

No, I don't believe you "gotcha". It is abundantly clear you have no clue.

I was wondering when you where going to fall back on the bogus racist claims. When it's all you got...

If true, Trump needs to make the visitor logs available...along with releasing the Fast & Furious documents, the I.R.S. targeting documents, the Benghazi documents, the James Rosen/Family & AP Reporters surveillance (and whoever else) documents, the Trump Tower surveillance documents, the Iran deal, the huge backlog of FOIA requests, the real Obamacare numbers, etc. He also needs to release the Roswell crash documents and the Kennedy assassination documents. But the most important ones are Obama's college transcripts and birth certificate. He might as well through his tax returns in there also.