Dick Vitale

[quote name="team first" post="1370602" timestamp="1360164246"] i think the better statement would be its not the same nederland. [/quote] I agree 100%...Nederland is not the same either, thanks to the leader of that program, BUT...The fact that Ozen no longer has the same championship swagger is more apparent...it's not an EMBARRASSING loss, but it's just not the same. You think PA Lincoln would EVER lose to Nederland? It just was not happening. That's how that program was built, and although it was not the same in the end, they still beat who they were EXPECTED to beat. I mean close games with PNG?? That's not suppose to happen at Ozen, but it's just not the same Ozen.

I will ask you this.....Did Ozen have a "future NBA player in 2007 when they won the region, went to Austin, and made the state championship game? The answer is NO AND NOT EVEN CLOSE...NOT the same Ozen. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Good win, but we are not seeing the same program that was built to be dominant.

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1370524" timestamp="1360152575"] Where are you Dickie V? [/quote] I am in Amarillo, at the hotel, preparing for tonight's road conference contest at West Texas A&M... ;)......I saw the outcome of the Ozen/Nederland game and am not really that surprised. Coach English is an outstanding coach. It's just not the same Ozen though... 8)

Uhhh, Mr. FarmerFran.....Silsbee has never won state in basketball... ::) ::)

Yates being "not as good as people think" = 20+ point SHALLACKING of Kountze.... ::) ::)...GEEZ! ::)

;D ;D...In THAT order? I NEVER looked at your list, but great minds do think alike!! Knowledge of the game helps too... ;) 8)

Oh I didn't see that...THE top 5 in SE Texas of all time ARE (in order): 1. James Gamble, PA Lincoln 2. Cotton Robinson, Buna 3. Andre Boutte, Kountze, PA Lincoln, Bmt. Ozen 4. Fred Williams, Bmt. Hebert, Bmt. Westbrook 5. Todd Sutherland, East Chambers, Kountze, Hardin Jefferson THE LIST... ;)

When did Silsbee when a state championship?

GOOD GRIEF!!! Yates WILL NOT lose to Kountze...PERIOD, point blank, start a new thread!! ::)

Ok, then shoot me your list on here, and lets compare who REALLY knows....ESPN's Stephen A. Smith vs. Skip Bayless!!  ;D

I think Ozen gets them at home....by 5.  ;)

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1370027" timestamp="1360075572"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=108925.msg1370022#msg1370022 date=1360073781] How did Lee get put in this convo and David Green has to be somewhere in there. [/quote] The thread started out by just naming current coaches but DV wanted people to name "all time" coaches and it went from there. [/quote] Yeah thats right, blame ole DV! Now I know how President Obama feels!  ;D ;D.... I was just curious as to who you guys thought were the area's all time best...I KNOW who they are, just wanted to get some other opinions.... ::) ::) ;D ;D

Ronnie Courtney is the best in Houston currently as far as coaches go....By far...You will all see how BAD FB Travis will be again after the Harrison boys are gone.. ;)

Serious question...Who do you guys consider to be the Top 5 SE Texas Area coaches EVER? 8)

Hey man, all that TIE stuff....I don't know anything about that mess! I have always won them ALONE!!  ;D ;D

Was that "district crown" that Nederland is defending somehow cut in HALF, being that it WAS a CO District Championship?..... ::) ::)...I mean does Central wear the "crown" on alternate days or what? How does that go? I have NEVER SHARED a district title before, I have always just won it outright... ::) ::) ::) 8)

::) ::)....Sure! Show me or tell me where I have been ARROGANT on here! Go ahead....I'll wait... 8)....Plus I have NEVER thrown my accolades around on this forum as he claims...Some people are just natural HATERS! 8)

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1369047" timestamp="1359761021"] [quote author=usedtobe link=topic=108798.msg1369030#msg1369030 date=1359759805] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=108798.msg1368955#msg1368955 date=1359750499] I hate agreeing with Dicky V... [/quote] Then DON'T!  I can always find a reason not to agree with the arrogant - errrr - never mind. [/quote] He makes some points that I wish a few people would understand, but I can't stand someone who thinks WAY too highly of themselves.. Instead of confidence, he shows pure arrogance.. He wouldn't be as bad if he didn't throw his "so-called" accolades around on this forum.. [/quote] That's only because you guys do not REALLY know me...And what makes my achievements and accolades "so-called"? Thats not fair.... :o....I have worked really hard to be GREAT!  ;D ;D....Honestly, I really wish those of you that judge me really KNEW ME....I mean why get mad at me because all I do and have ever done is WIN?  ;)....OK, OK, I am picking with you on that, but really....WHEN have I shown ONE OUNCE of arrogance? Show me!! 8)

[quote name="usedtobe" post="1369030" timestamp="1359759805"] [quote author=dogs1218 link=topic=108798.msg1368955#msg1368955 date=1359750499] I hate agreeing with Dicky V... [/quote] Then DON'T!  I can always find a reason not to agree with the arrogant - errrr - never mind. [/quote] Arrogance is often confused with confidence and greatness...Micheal Jordan was sometimes called arrogant...Geno Auriemma too...Oh, and of course Kobe has been called that a time or two, so.....THANKS!  ;D ;D

In Houston, Dove we don't REALLY have "Senior Nights", because our district games are played at the stadiums.  Therefore, it's only Senior Night if they just CALL IT that in Houston...My "senior night" was our last district ball game against Bellaire....Scored 34...won by 30...Dad had us (starters) sitting almost the entire 4th quarter talking about getting healed and rested for the playoffs! >:(....I think he was taking it easy on his buddy on the other sideline!!!  I could have scored 50! That's YOUR coach, Bluedove!!! :D :D 8)

That dude is DELUSIONAL! 8)

[quote name="dogs1218" post="1368955" timestamp="1359750499"] I hate agreeing with Dicky V... [/quote] Get used to it..I'm ALWAYS right!!  ;) :D [quote author=TopDawG52 link=topic=108798.msg1368957#msg1368957 date=1359750914] I see alot of ppl on this site have no knowledge of basketball.  Dogs1218. I assure u the dawgs want none of them lions.  So if Kountze beats yates does this make kountze the best team 1A-4A CAUSE yates Still would be the best team in 4a right ? [/quote] Tell me WHY you think Kountze will beat Yates....(I cannot WAIT to hear this)..Go ahead...I'll wait.. ::)

Yates by a lot!! 8)....Yates 92, Kountze 67....And THAT'S being very generous! Kountze has no size, and I think those Yates bigs will have a FIELD DAY against them inside, which should be the difference in this game.

Are you guys REALLY even DISCUSSING KOUNTZE and YATES??? :o :o....Come on, man! They're not even in the same league with Yates...Literally and figuratively...Yes Kountze will scrap, and fight them hard, but at the end of the day its going to likely be a lopsided Yates win....Yates should not even BE in 3A, actually, so them playing a 2A is MORE of a mismatch than it even APPEARS to be...Come on folks..I know you Kountze people LOVE your team and for good reason, they have a shot at winning it all in 2A...But they are not in the same league as Yates.

Southland fans get a sneak peek at their newest member, University of Incarnate Word on TV tonight as they face Midwestern State University on Time Warner Cable sports channel (ch. 888 on digital) at 7:30pm. Just in case any of you wanted to know who LU may (or may not) get their NEXT win against in conference next season, since it doesn't look like they will get any THIS season! :D