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[quote name="robanadana" post="1174810" timestamp="1328791725"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95670.msg1174439#msg1174439 date=1328723999] Also, take into account what Ozen has comming back.  They were YOUNG last year. [/quote] So are we SoulJa. So is Nederland. All three went three rounds deep. Ozen LOST to both of us. It's sorta like taking the MVP away from Montana and giving it to Jokobi (both juniors). I'm not understanding the math. [/quote] Again I think the whole concept stems from who Ozen beat in the playoffs. Again taking nothing away from Vidor, Nederland, PNG or the teams they faced in the playoffs but being the 4th seed, making it to the playoffs on a prayer and a win by Vidor, crossing over BH then defeating Brenham - I didn't look at the rankings but heard that Brenham was 25...so why is nobody questioning Brenham's ranking considering they only made it 2 rounds? How can you take something away from someone that wasn't in their possession? MVP wasn't sitting on top of Montana's dresser for whoever to go in, take it and then give it to Jakobi. Seriously IMO both boys play extremely well in their positions whether they played 1 or 5. IMO both boys are honored to receive any and all nominations. Just because our opinions may not match others doesn't mean that we know more or less. I wish both of them continued success.

IMO Ozen has the talent to compete with any team in 20-4A. Ozen's talent is spread out among the players and not perched on the shoulders of 1 or 2 (not implying that it's like that for any other school) but there comes a point where it has to be known how to put it together. Just because 1 of the players may have a bad night doesn't mean that the whole team has to follow. As a child I often used dominoes or blocks and lined them up then tapped the 1st one and watched the rest fall. Last night was a tragedy to say the lease, one got down which in turn led to the downfall but nobody stepped in and tried to stand them back up....not blaming anybody but again NOBODY stepped up to the plate to turn it around.

Really!!!!!!!!!! After last night, I can't believe you'd even ask that question lol.......Being the underdog in football kinda added a little edge to us but in basketball being the underdog is just being the underdog

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1174487" timestamp="1328727080"] [quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=95625.msg1174475#msg1174475 date=1328726289] I would have gone to game but BMTSOULJA talked me out of it. His theory on driving 2-hours to Livingston to watch a 32 minute basketball made $ents to me. [/quote]See there?  ;D [/quote] I hate driving and complain anytime I have to go to Livingston. Prayerfully I only have to make the drive one more time and that's during football season. Anyway the drive wasn't as bad as it used to be, IMO getting to the new school is easier than the last one was. Dove, I made it there in 1 hour and 15 minutes and was able to watch 2 quarters of some enjoyable basketball being played (JV game was in the 3rd quarter).

[quote name="rc2182" post="1174461" timestamp="1328725832"] [quote author=uandme08 link=topic=95625.msg1174330#msg1174330 date=1328716362] [quote author=rc2182 link=topic=95625.msg1174306#msg1174306 date=1328715292] I would think everyone would do a little research b4 we get to discussing coaches credentials,not sure about one coach but the one at Ozen happen to play high school basketball ,but even at that ,there are a lot of things you have to take into consideration does he have parent,community, BISD(PRINCIPAL,AD, SUPERINT, PLAYERS ETC....) and last but not least how many shots did he miss (the coach),reb. did he get ,Players Play Coaches Coach. [/quote] Yes there are alot of things to take into consideration but there are some things you have no control over. Honestly I don't know why the parents are not there, I have always felt that for every child participating there should be at least 1 person from the family showing support. The community is full of bandwagon fans, nobody really showed up for the football games but when they got a decent win 10 more people showed up. It's sad to look in the gym at a home game and see maybe 50 people. I understand the coach doesn't miss the shots or gets out rebounded or turns the ball over but he makes the decision as to who will be on the court. When you see a kid make a mistake, you don't bench him and not tell him what he did wrong or show him an alternative. When you have back to back turnovers, you don't call a timeout and not say nothing in the huddle. When you go down by 7 and you see some of your team getting discouraged, you don't just sit down and not say a word. There was nothing coming from Ozen's sideline last night. If it wasn't for 4 of the 12 fans that showed up, nothing would have been heard. No motivation at all and the lead was maybe 7 (if that) at the beginning of the 4th quarter. I'm no coach and never want that responsibility but I've been around long enough to know a thing or 2 IMO. Something is lacking with Ozen's basketball program and I won't put all of the blame on the coaching staff. I'm frustrated and don't want another headache from last night....[b]I agree uandme something is not right with the program and it is frustrating to see Ozen in such a rut ,all i'm saying is it is easy to look ,and place blame on the coach or leader of the team ,look at the president ,all blame falls on his shoulders but is he the total blame for the predictment the country is in .Back to Ozen ,things that might be taken into consideration is loosing three possibly four starters on the team ,one to grades ,two to discplinary reasons,and one to concentrating just on track,just saying.  [/b] [/quote] [/quote] Ok RC2182, I get what you are saying but there are obstacles that have to be crossed along the way. Ozen has won games without the 3 or 4 mentioned previously and they have lost some but by this point adjustments should have been made and you should know what you are working with and how to piece it together. Just speaking from watching last night, it was a nightmare. There were no adjustments and no guidance. To walk into a huddle at timeout and not say nothing to motivate them was useless. It was almost comical that he didn't know what to say to them. I even asked my son what was said in the locker room and/or on the bus and it was nothing worth mentioning. We have to play the had we are dealt with and again at this point, it should be known what's working and when it's not working what adjustments need to be made. There is more than one way to skin a cat and last night Ozen only had one plan in motion and it failed. 

[quote name="rc2182" post="1174306" timestamp="1328715292"] I would think everyone would do a little research b4 we get to discussing coaches credentials,not sure about one coach but the one at Ozen happen to play high school basketball ,but even at that ,there are a lot of things you have to take into consideration does he have parent,community, BISD(PRINCIPAL,AD, SUPERINT, PLAYERS ETC....) and last but not least how many shots did he miss (the coach),reb. did he get ,Players Play Coaches Coach. [/quote] Yes there are alot of things to take into consideration but there are some things you have no control over. Honestly I don't know why the parents are not there, I have always felt that for every child participating there should be at least 1 person from the family showing support. The community is full of bandwagon fans, nobody really showed up for the football games but when they got a decent win 10 more people showed up. It's sad to look in the gym at a home game and see maybe 50 people. I understand the coach doesn't miss the shots or gets out rebounded or turns the ball over but he makes the decision as to who will be on the court. When you see a kid make a mistake, you don't bench him and not tell him what he did wrong or show him an alternative. When you have back to back turnovers, you don't call a timeout and not say nothing in the huddle. When you go down by 7 and you see some of your team getting discouraged, you don't just sit down and not say a word. There was nothing coming from Ozen's sideline last night. If it wasn't for 4 of the 12 fans that showed up, nothing would have been heard. No motivation at all and the lead was maybe 7 (if that) at the beginning of the 4th quarter. I'm no coach and never want that responsibility but I've been around long enough to know a thing or 2 IMO. Something is lacking with Ozen's basketball program and I won't put all of the blame on the coaching staff. I'm frustrated and don't want another headache from last night....

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1174268" timestamp="1328713801"] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95474.msg1174261#msg1174261 date=1328713316] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=95474.msg1174249#msg1174249 date=1328712635] [quote author=NB-Dawg link=topic=95474.msg1174241#msg1174241 date=1328712173] [quote author=pete092775 link=topic=95474.msg1173097#msg1173097 date=1328559736] Livingston just a warm up game. 8) [/quote] ??? ??? ??? ??? [/quote][Hidden Content] [/quote] Now THAT is funny! ;D [/quote]LMBO!!! Let me say it on this thread as well "I TOLD YOU SO".... [/quote]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1174275" timestamp="1328714167"] [quote author=Tigersvoice link=topic=95625.msg1174267#msg1174267 date=1328713748] [quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=95625.msg1174256#msg1174256 date=1328713242] Another interesting fact about the state of BISD boys basketball: Did you know that Westbrook has not won a district title since 1995, when they were coached by Chris Coleman? Central has not won a district title since 1999.  ::)...How about that? NEDERLAND has won a district title more recently than these three schools have...NEDERLAND..14-0...Think about that one....Lincoln is CLOSED since 2002 and has won district more recently than 2 of the three Beaumont schools... :o [/quote] Now, Dickie, that's tacky!  ;D ;D ;D ;) [/quote] I am sorry TV, but the state of BISD hoops is sickening!  8)..I could understand it better if the kids were not there, but they ARE...Its just pitful, IMO! [/quote] I've said it before and I'll say it again I am not happy with the scheme of things at Ozen. I have never wanted my son to quit anything until this basketball season, even with the record that Ozen had in football the previous years. There have been many basketball games where I wanted to tell him to turn his stuff in and get in the car especially last night. Honestly the other 2 schools leave me with no options either. I remember when Ozen and Central were "powerhouses" and teams were intimidated by playing them, now they can't even be taken seriously.

I [b]think[/b] Ozen's Freshman and JV went undefeated.

[quote name="robanadana" post="1174160" timestamp="1328704128"] What's funny about that is, without my Pirates, they don't even make the playoffs. Go figure. [/quote] You are so right. Trust me we appreciated the help from the Pirates but I think this ranking consists of what was done once playoffs started. I'm not saying that Vidor nor the teams they played don't deserve to be ranked but IMO Ozen received much attention and many accolades after beating Brenham. Vidor helped get Ozen there, beating Barbers Hill got us closer, beating Brenham put us on the map and in the game that was supposed to be played at Cowboys Stadium then here came the brawl.  ::)   

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1174192" timestamp="1328709226"] I would love to see the end of season evaluations of BISD BOYS BASKETBALL 8)....FACT: of the three BISD coaches, two of them NEVER PLAYED BASKETBALL....they were FOOTBALL coaches...Kind of puts some things in perspective, huh? :o [/quote] Dickie V, if it was possible for all 3 Beaumont schools to go undefeated (which I know is not possible for 2 of the 20-4A schools since they have to play each other) something negative would still be said. This is the world we have to live in being a part of BISD.

I will admit that I stand up but I don't put my hand over my heart but I'm not intentionally being disrespectful IMO. Is it written in stone that this is a way to show respect for our country or is this a preconceived notion? Don't fly off the deep handle, I am merely asking a question.

[quote name="LP6" post="1174170" timestamp="1328706855"] [quote author=vp32 link=topic=95581.msg1173767#msg1173767 date=1328656534] Bryce Cooper, safety, is getting looks and so is Blake Dalenburg, DE/TE and Johnboy Smith, DE/TE. Other than that nothing really. And i'm sure [b]Jakobi Jones, Ozen RB,[/b] is gonna get some looks also. [/quote] I saw every one of Ozen's playoff games this past season because the BH game was such a great game I wanted to continue watching them, and after the playoffs were over and I looked back on the season statistics, I was surprised to see that Jones had that many yards in non-district, and district because in the playoffs he didn't do very much at all, and he's small. He's a good player don't get me wrong and apparently his better than I thought during the regular season but in the playoffs Ozen's QB and defense carried the weight. [/quote] IMO I think that's all a part of being a team and why Ozen made it as far as they did when I didn't even think they would. Off topic I know but there wasn't much Jakobi or any of the RBs could do when the running game had a target on its back. Lucky for Ozen they started using other weapons when they needed to. Jakobi needs to pick up some weight but there's no doubt that he will play on the next level if he chooses to go that route.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1174120" timestamp="1328677788"] There  a player that havnt played nothing but a couple of minutes this season that is a senior.  You could have put him in om SENIOR night. [/quote] I completely agree and I told the "coach" that that night but it just goes to show you where our coaching stands. This season has really disturbed on so many levels and not necessarily the season record either.

Can I just go on record here and say "I TOLD YOU SO"?

[quote name="Razor" post="1173401" timestamp="1328630275"] Wherever they are playing, I hope they treat the locker room better than they did in BH [/quote] OMG give it a rest! Continuing to harp on something that never happened won't change the fact that they were selected to play in this game.

[quote name="pete092775" post="1173057" timestamp="1328557534"] Ozen boys are so pumped knowing that Nederland is beatable. They realize that if central can do it they can too. But they want to put all doubts aside about who the best is Ozen wants to prove a point whipping Nederland down. [/quote] Wait a minute Pete092775, pump your brakes just a little lol...I love my PANTHERS all the same but still want to take on Livingston 1st

[quote name="Matthew328" post="1173060" timestamp="1328557765"] Kincade is a nice place...but its not Cowboys...Bmt Enterprise got it wrong.. [/quote] Yes, Cowboys Stadium would have been a great experience but playing outside of the Golden Triangle and Houston areas will be great for the kids as well. The Beaumont Enterprise wasn't the only ones that reported this wrong so did Fox but can't blame them since this is the information given to the coaches which was then given to the kids.

[quote name="BellBiz30" post="1173051" timestamp="1328557336"] how do these teams get picked for this event? [/quote] Ozen was nominated after they beat Brenham...I think they were nominated as Texas High School of the Week after beating Brenham or something close to that nature

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1172916" timestamp="1328551575"] Man, Livingston only mustered 30 points against Lumberton.  I'm not being a comedian, but have you seen Lumberton? [/quote] I understand what you are saying but on any given Tuesday or Friday night I never know what coaching staff will show up with Ozen. I'm going to get in trouble for not staying on topic.....

IMO Chuck Langston would be great....

So off topic BUT can we please make it out of Livingston tomorrow before we start making predicitions about Nederland....it's not easy when the ball is in the Lions' Den. We have to take it one game at a time, one possession at a time lol

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1170862" timestamp="1328221363"] I thought Jimmie Briscoe was at Legacy? Is he back at Ozen? [/quote] Oh how I wish he was back at Ozen now that Trey will gone.....

[quote name="badndn" post="1170748" timestamp="1328214686"] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=95319.msg1170697#msg1170697 date=1328212628] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=95319.msg1170562#msg1170562 date=1328208946] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=95319.msg1170549#msg1170549 date=1328208483] [quote author=badndn link=topic=95319.msg1170436#msg1170436 date=1328203914] Livingston! Got hosed again. I hate traveling to Livingston a couple times a year, so I can only imagine what those folks over there feel like having to do it every week! Just flat sux! [/quote] I would think they play the same amount of home games as everyone else. [/quote] Livingston has to travel more than all the other 20-4A teams put together. In the two year span, they have to make 7 trips to the Triangle in football, 14 in volleyball, basketball, baseball and softball. Whereas the other 20-4A schools only make 1 trip in football, 2 in the other four sports. Livingston gets hosed in this deal, not the other 20-4A schools. [/quote] I agree that they get hosed on travel.  I was just stuck on the "every week" statement by badndn. [/quote] Don't forget this goes way beyond football! So yes in all other sports where they play twice a week, Livingston must visit the GT once a week. [/quote] And here I am complaining about driving to Livingston Tuesday.....

I don't have a dog in this fight but really contemplating trying to get in Central's matchbox just so that I can be a witness to __________ beating __________ lol..... ;D