Thanks for clearing that up for those who tend to forget what discipline is in terms of football.....I still say Ozen will take this one and that's my opinion. [quote name="WOSgrad" post="1072647" timestamp="1317659466"] Actaully, if you go by two generally accepted measures of discipline, penalties and turnovers, you might have a hard time saying that Vidor is more disciplined. Through 5 games, Ozen has been flagged 32 times for 271 yards and have turned the ball over 5 times. Through 5 games, Vidor has been flagged 31 times for 250 yards and have turned the ball over 7 times. As for team speed, Ozen might have a bit more speed, but Vidor is by no means devoid of it. Quirante has some good speed as does Smallwood and Bolinger (if Coach Mathews lied to David Henry and he does indeed play on Friday). Even Clark was some surprising speed. So the big edges one way or the other, really don't play out as huges edges in reality. [/quote]