Brubaker

3 hours ago, outanup said:

I hear both were told they could stay if they like........Oline coaches. Tough to replace everyone at once, next year may be different....

I trust his “picker” this guy has been at Katy and know what excellent is.  If he doesn’t run someone off, it’s because “HE” believes in them.  He’ll get no mulligans so he’s making the calls

10 hours ago, navydawg31 said:

Nederland has only played playoff games in Huntsville just not against them.. 

I was thinking Kilgore, yall right

2 hours ago, navydawg31 said:

Haven’t played Huntsville since the 60s they were suppose to play in 2020 but covid stopped them, the other 2 no. 

Pretty sure they’ve met in the playoffs 

1 hour ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Would he get 7 years?

I’m also wondering what happens if you don’t win another within the next 7 years… if not is it because they get content and lazy, were they just lucky?  Do you get stripped of stature if you don’t validate in 7 years?  

3 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

Played for Dodge…? Naw. Knowing Dodge, helping out at his camps, and few things common with him. Yeah, sure. I’ll give him that. 

Par for the course…

29 minutes ago, outanup said:

Let's keep this about Nederland football ......

It’s really hard when you’re so awesome

6 minutes ago, PN-G bamatex said:

I know PN-G is a football school first and foremost, but we really are blessed with an embarrassment of athletic riches at PN-G. The baseball program has made four state championship appearances and won it once; three of those appearances and the victory have all occurred in the last 25 years. The softball team has made two state championship appearances, both in the last 25 years. The volleyball team is 3-0 in state championship games. For most of the last fifteen years, both the boys' and girls' soccer programs have been major regional powers, making regional final appearances several times. If I recall correctly, there was one season where both teams made it to the regional final. We've fielded two or three state champions in various track activities plus a few dozen more state track meet qualifiers, and are always competitive in powerlifting. We used to be a real power in tennis. Sports-wise, basketball is really the only area where PN-G has consistently underperformed.

Add in all the academic accolades - the years of blue ribbon designations, thirteen straight district titles in UIL academics and several consecutive years of dozens of kids advancing to regionals, a handful to state and one kid winning a gold medal in creative writing at the state UIL meet. For several years, PN-G offered more dual credit hours than any other local high school, Kelly included. And then there's the performing arts. The band has made, what, four trips to the state marching competition? Straight ones all but maybe three or four seasons since the UIL started holding regional marching competitions 50+ years ago? Not to mention the hundreds of PN-G students who've achieved all-region and all-state honors in band and choir, and a very competitive theater program.

Football is king at PN-G, but there are many, many more reasons to be proud to be an Indian.

Isn’t life swell dad… hey son, how about we go fishing this weekend… great dad, but I have homework 

19 hours ago, PN-G bamatex said:

This metric doesn't work the way I suspect you think it does. The grading rubric TEA uses to determine these ratings has several "ceiling indicators," which are factors that can cap the maximum possible overall score assigned to a school district if a particular condition isn't met, even if the school scored the maximum possible points with respect to every other factor for consideration. You can confirm that for yourself by viewing the rubric

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, indicates the district scored a 96 out of 100 and would have been given an A rating but for the failure to satisfy one ceiling indicator. According to the data considered with respect to that factor, the district's fund balance fell 25.4% over three years. The factor only allows for a maximum 25% reduction before the grade cap is triggered. I would bet good money that the decline in the district's fund balance was caused by special arrangements the district had to make due to the delays in the construction of the new schools caused by COVID, though I can't say that for sure. Whatever the case may be, failure to meet that condition capped PN-G's highest possible grade at 89, instead of the 96 PN-G would have otherwise scored.

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, and PN-GISD’s are identically scored in every way except for with respect to that one fund balance criterion.

In any event, this is an academic exercise that I don't think really addresses PhatMack's point. He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he was saying that the Nederland bond was more expensive and less effective at reducing NISD's long term operational expenditures than PN-G's bond packages have been and/or will be. I think he's probably correct. PN-GISD's latest bond package consolidated six schools into four, as PhatMack aptly pointed out. Less obvious is the reduction in utility and maintenance costs brought about by both PN-G's 2019 and 2007 bond issues, which altogether replaced eight old schools that were energy inefficient and costly to maintain with six new ones that are much more efficient and less maintenance-intensive, and achieved similar cost savings at the high school through extensive renovation. NISD's bond issue didn't consolidate any schools and only replaced one, though it included some renovations to a handful of others, too. I don't think there's much debate to be had that PN-G's bond issues will save the district considerably more money in the long run.

In other words, NISD, even when you think you win…. you lose because you did it wrong.  you get an A for the operation of a Ford Escape, while PNG got a B for operating a Bugatti 

1 hour ago, PN-G bamatex said:

Not to add fuel to a growing fire or anything, but I would just like to point out that PN-G's higher level of property wealth per capita versus Nederland, owing to the former's more industrial tax base, also means PN-GISD loses substantially more state funding than NISD to recapture, better known as "Robin Hood." When all is said and done, the net per capita funding disparity is not as significant as one might think, and nowhere near as significant as it was before the Robin Hood plan was put into effect a little over 30 years ago.

It is also worth noting that Maintenance & Operation funding (i.e., money for day-to-day operations) and Interest & Sinking funding (i.e., money to pay off bonds) are two separate streams of tax revenue for school districts that are assessed as separate line items on your property tax bill. To PhatMack's point, the latter is totally dependent on the structure and amount of the bond proposed by the school district. I doubt there's much, if any, difference in the overall cost to the individual homeowners in PN-GISD and NISD over the lives of their respective bonds after inflation is controlled for.

Yeah, we use lots of excuses on this side of the track, people could read this and either wouldn’t understand or just disregard because it’s 2 paragraphs and requires some focus.

16 hours ago, DogFan1 said:

Its a completely different culture across the board.  Barrow has caught a lot of heat and owns some of it but its a Nederland ISD issue.  I read a lot about kids playing multiple sports and all that.  It really goes to overall involvement.  PNG encourages a culture where kids are involved at a early age one way or the other.  From students doing broadcast during games, 75 girls in drill team, band, and all the way thru into their athletics.  Nederland needs to take a hard look at why their students are not getting involved.  I might be wrong but I believe if your a cheerleader or drill team at Nederland you are not allowed to participate in spring sports, but I know at PNG they can.  Why does one place have this type of participation in all there organizations and literally across the street their number shrink every year.  One answer culture.  Culture starts with your leaders and there is more than one leader at Nederland who should have to be answering these questions.  Barrow and a lot coaches are going to take the bullet for this and rightfully so but their is still plenty of people from Principal Natalie Gomez to our Superintendent who need to take a hard look at the type of culture they are creating around them.

Leadership is not following the crowd or riding the current of the stream, it’s not looking across the tracks, but looking within and challenging yourself more than others.  Poor leaders do things for cosmetics and optics.  The worst do things out of fear.

14 hours ago, jake94 said:

Is Reagan still the front runner?

He’s been elite in everything he’s ever done, his baby diapers were even more loaded than the rest… Dogs would be lucky to have him, but probably can’t afford him or her

2 hours ago, Reagan said:

OK, makes sense.  But if Nederland went big school then that means they should be able to compete with the other big schools in that classification.  Right?  

When the divisions weren't separated 5AD1 and 5AD2, that was done relatively within the district after the 4 teams made the playoffs.  Nederland was always the big school, even though their enrollment was typically well below the small school enrollments of  most of the districts they played.  Example, Georgetown in 2012, they were on their way to a higher class and turned in like 2200 while Nederland had around 1600.  This happened every year in the Neumann era.  But these are just excuses.  My question for you, is do you think Neumann was an elite coach even though he never won a state championship?

49 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

Nederland didn’t have good years for many many years. How many years did PNG beat Nederland in a row now? 

You must’ve missed 1994-2021??

2 minutes ago, 1989NDN said:

+1...it's high school football in Mid-County...the talent comes and goes.  Things will even out and circle back to where Nederland has a few years of talented kids with size and speed walking the halls.  Then, all of a sudden, Monte Barrow will be a great coach again.  Right now, the Indians are riding the wave of talented kids, good size on the OL/DL, and excellent coaching.  Anyone who has watched PN-G and Nederland football since the 1950s knows that the good times and bad times swing back and forth.

This makes way too much sense for several Nederland “Fans”

30 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

What about the 2 kids over 6 foot 250 plus quitting the team because of family vacation over the summer?  When the OL coach said they wasn’t committed to the team? 

Earlier someone posted that Ned has no organized workouts outside of normal football workouts, so not sure what facts are, but these two things don’t match up

9 hours ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

Honestly the biggest problem I see is the lack of size along the offensive and defensive line. The other things like technique and discipline can be corrected...we got pushed around bad the last 3 games of the year got to get those kids in the weight room this offseason

Badabing, anyone who has watched PNGs size difference the last couple of years and still says the kids are the same, is blind or stupid.  Ned has had superior lines in the past when PNG has not, this is high school, you don’t recruit size.  You can improve strength which Ned needs to focus on, but PNG owns the line against most 5As in the state right now

30 minutes ago, spidersal said:

Unfortunately SE Texas had several weak districts this year with the majority going 0-4 or 1-3 in the 1st round. Hopefully the districts will be better next year

My predictions of FBM, Nederland, PAM, and WOS being 1 and done was 100 percent correct

Congrats to the teams moving on to the next round  BH, PNG, Lumberton, HF, Jasper, Silsbee, Woodville, Newton, and Deweyville

Man, you are truly a football genius Spidey, be better SE TX!!!

4 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

What was injured on the young man? Can you tell?

Not sure but neither Thomas or Sunday have played for 3+ quarters, hope they’re okay

4 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:

!!score:53/6/4

 

can they just do a running clock?

 

You've alerted the ScoreboardBot:

Score Alert: Montgomery Lake Creek(53) @ Nederland(6) Q4

 

Nice 

Just now, NHSBulldogs2 said:

He only had 5 they did not give him the ball and when they did no blocking at all no he hurt

Thomas got hurt pretty early in the game.

Tell me you’ve never played the game… without telling me you NEVER played the game.

2 minutes ago, spidersal said:

LC players are also in HS along with all the other teams players. You either compete are you don’t. Unfortunately Nederland did not tonight

Sir, you don’t get it, you don’t understand what I’m saying, some just don’t, you’re one of em, it’s cool

10 minutes ago, spidersal said:

Hate to tell you Brubaker but the game is already out of hand

I predicted LC anywhere from 42 to 56 but it looks like 70 or more 

Are you for real??? You think I’m talking about whether the game is out of hand??? I’m talking about something you know nothing about… it wasn’t about winning on the scoreboard.  These are high school kids, you don’t get it bud, it’s cool

Anybody have Lake Creeks snapshot number they just turned in?

Lake Creek is the real deal with that Olin’s and Running game, we are going to struggle keeping it from getting out of hand without our two offensive weapons to get first downs and keep the D off the field.