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Good call.

Nothing against Lumberton because I'd say this about any of our district teams playing Ned after they got beat by GCM. I see Ned taking this one by a couple scores.   After the loss to GCM, Ned will come back with some inspired football and will be way to much for the L-train.

And yes, I care plenty.  I have a son playing in this program right now, and we aren't interested in participation medals.  However, regardless of how his high school career turns out or how many playoff wins he experiences I know he has experienced a program that will have a very positive impact on his life.  Your profile has you in Katy, so I'm not sure how invested you are in Vidor anymore.  For some of us it's more that chirping on a message board.

Nothing against Lumberton because I'd say this about any of our district teams playing Ned after they got beat by GCM. I see Ned taking this one by a couple scores.   After the loss to GCM, Ned will come back with some inspired football and will be way to much for the L-train.

Nothing against Lumberton because I'd say this about any of our district teams playing Ned after they got beat by GCM. I see Ned taking this one by a couple scores.   After the loss to GCM, Ned will come back with some inspired football and will be way to much for the L-train.

Nothing against Lumberton because I'd say this about any of our district teams playing Ned after they got beat by GCM. I see Ned taking this one by a couple scores.   After the loss to GCM, Ned will come back with some inspired football and will be way to much for the L-train.

Nothing against Lumberton because I'd say this about any of our district teams playing Ned after they got beat by GCM. I see Ned taking this one by a couple scores.   After the loss to GCM, Ned will come back with some inspired football and will be way to much for the L-train.

Lumberton would have had a better chance of an upset if the Dogs had not lost to GCM last night, and penalties and turnovers will not decide this game, Nederland will. 

I think it is sad that blacks in Beaumont Texas are outraged with the white cop subduing the black girl but the black kids at the school where this happened, walked out in support of the cop. What the Heck does that tell everyone? It tells me that any video can show something wrong when in actuality, the people who really know the persons involved can rectify the situation and those not involved should distance themselves, hold their opinions until they have all the facts, and let justice take its course.

And yes, I care plenty.  I have a son playing in this program right now, and we aren't interested in participation medals.  However, regardless of how his high school career turns out or how many playoff wins he experiences I know he has experienced a program that will have a very positive impact on his life.  Your profile has you in Katy, so I'm not sure how invested you are in Vidor anymore.  For some of us it's more that chirping on a message board.

if you'll notice I said, I wasn't sure of your investment.  It sounds like you make some pretty special efforts to see our Pirates in action.  That's great, and I love the fact that you have Slavonic on your phone. That's pretty cool.
I do think sometimes people overplay the idea that we need to keep Jeff because he's a good guy.  I don't see it that way.  I think he's a great coach with a big job, and his results speak for themselves.  He is the winningest coach in Vidor's history.  His teams have made four trips to the playoffs.  I think we had two trips in the previous 60 years.  We'd be foolish to lose him.  My first question would be who is going to come in and get better results?
I'm going to wrap this up. It's past my bedtime.  You sound like a pretty good guy, and we probably even suited up on the same team at one point.  Go Pirates!

And yes, I care plenty.  I have a son playing in this program right now, and we aren't interested in participation medals.  However, regardless of how his high school career turns out or how many playoff wins he experiences I know he has experienced a program that will have a very positive impact on his life.  Your profile has you in Katy, so I'm not sure how invested you are in Vidor anymore.  For some of us it's more that chirping on a message board.

And yes, I care plenty.  I have a son playing in this program right now, and we aren't interested in participation medals.  However, regardless of how his high school career turns out or how many playoff wins he experiences I know he has experienced a program that will have a very positive impact on his life.  Your profile has you in Katy, so I'm not sure how invested you are in Vidor anymore.  For some of us it's more that chirping on a message board.

No, based on what you've said we are the same generation.  I know all about Interstate 10 years, and I know Sam and BJ.  My whole point was that you made this stand earlier about Jeff not "producing" D1 players.  Gooch -Latech... Culbert Arkansas... Gooch Texas Tech... BJ went to SMU but other than that you haven't named another D1 player in 60 years of Pirate football(and I'm sure there were more). I'm just pointing out that the town of Vidor is not a hotbed of D1 talent regardless of who is coaching.  
Jeff is a great coach and he has a system in place for the talent, size, and speed we have.  What system changes do you recommend?  And please be specific and explain how our current talent, size, and speed will be successful in that type of system.

And yes, I care plenty.  I have a son playing in this program right now, and we aren't interested in participation medals.  However, regardless of how his high school career turns out or how many playoff wins he experiences I know he has experienced a program that will have a very positive impact on his life.  Your profile has you in Katy, so I'm not sure how invested you are in Vidor anymore.  For some of us it's more that chirping on a message board.

No, based on what you've said we are the same generation.  I know all about Interstate 10 years, and I know Sam and BJ.  My whole point was that you made this stand earlier about Jeff not "producing" D1 players.  Gooch -Latech... Culbert Arkansas... Gooch Texas Tech... BJ went to SMU but other than that you haven't named another D1 player in 60 years of Pirate football(and I'm sure there were more). I'm just pointing out that the town of Vidor is not a hotbed of D1 talent regardless of who is coaching.  
Jeff is a great coach and he has a system in place for the talent, size, and speed we have.  What system changes do you recommend?  And please be specific and explain how our current talent, size, and speed will be successful in that type of system.

And yes, I care plenty.  I have a son playing in this program right now, and we aren't interested in participation medals.  However, regardless of how his high school career turns out or how many playoff wins he experiences I know he has experienced a program that will have a very positive impact on his life.  Your profile has you in Katy, so I'm not sure how invested you are in Vidor anymore.  For some of us it's more that chirping on a message board.

So curelover, did you come up with that number yet?  since coaches "make" D1 players, how many did Vidor's previous coaches "make" 

Please refer back to the post about not bashing coaches. Matthews is a great coach, Lumberton just the better team this game.

I wasn't hounding you. I simply responded to your ridiculous comments. 

Don't waste your time arguing with curelover... they've had it out for Jeff for years and that will never change

Another fisherman has drowned at the Keith Lake cut.  That is a crazy dangerous current.  I wish the state or county would step up and build a safer pier for the local fishermen.  That place is arguably some of the best bank fishing in the area, but no fish is worth a life. I have a boat, but I recognize the value of these hot spots for bank fisherman.   Prayers for this young man's family...sad

There are some SE Texas schools with some great traditions, but if you're talking winning traditions the conversations begins and ends with Newton and WOS.... Good luck to these teams!

There are some SE Texas schools with some great traditions, but if you're talking winning traditions the conversations begins and ends with Newton and WOS.... Good luck to these teams!

Wow....looked back at these predictions and no one was even close... Difference in this game was the three-point swing that occurred on the blocked PAT that CV ran back....Without that this ends 42-42 and they may still be going score for score in OT