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Big Girl- If someone has gastric bypass surgery in order to lose weight, is it hypocritical for them to support moderate eating habits and getting plenty of exercise?

I believe you overstate your case against Fox.  Sorry, but not being in the tank for Obama ( like every other network and the vast majority of newspapers) does not qualify an organization as trash.  If Fox was lying as you, Big Girl, and a few others contend, they would be in court all of the time defending themselves.  If there was the slightest chance of that taking place, the left would have already done so.  If you don't mind, give me two or three examples of blatant lies that Fox has offered from their newspeople ( opinions don't count) in regard to Obama or his administration.  After that, I would also be interested in knowing how you arrived at the conclusion that Al Jazeera is a reliable news source.  If my memory is correct, they were the ones who featured "Baghdad Bob" shortly after we had invaded Iraq saying " There are no American infidels in Baghdad, never"  and " we have them surrounded in their tanks"  Oops. forgot to add this inquiry.  Tell me what you think of NBC when they edited the George Zimmerman  tape with the OBVIOUS attempt to fan the flames of racial hatred and sway public opinion in the Trayvon Martin Case.  Go back a little further and tell me what you thought of the Dan Rather escapade regarding George Bush some years ago where forged documents unauthenticated /forged documents were used to present a case.  After all of that, I would like to know why Fox is somehow "lesser" than NBC or CBS.

Few things are more transparent than when someone gets on this board and, under the guise of neutrality , attempts to portray himself/herself  as "above the fray" because he or she is without predilection and therefore, is more "reasoned" and "objective"( and don't forget "enlightened")  We all have our  leanings/tendencies and there is little sense in trying to portray yourself as something you are not.  I was particularly amused when EOC spoke of how "dedicated Fox viewers" describe the opposition as  communist, socialist, and fascist.  I wish to respond to that by asking who is doing the  talking when we substitute those descriptive terms with racist, homophobe, and compassionless?

Few things are more transparent than when someone gets on this board and, under the guise of neutrality , attempts to portray himself/herself  as "above the fray" because he or she is without predilection and therefore, is more "reasoned" and "objective"( and don't forget "enlightened")  We all have our  leanings/tendencies and there is little sense in trying to portray yourself as something you are not.  I was particularly amused when EOC spoke of how "dedicated Fox viewers" describe the opposition as  communist, socialist, and fascist.  I wish to respond to that by asking who is doing the  talking when we substitute those descriptive terms with racist, homophobe, and compassionless?

Few things are more transparent than when someone gets on this board and, under the guise of neutrality , attempts to portray himself/herself  as "above the fray" because he or she is without predilection and therefore, is more "reasoned" and "objective"( and don't forget "enlightened")  We all have our  leanings/tendencies and there is little sense in trying to portray yourself as something you are not.  I was particularly amused when EOC spoke of how "dedicated Fox viewers" describe the opposition as  communist, socialist, and fascist.  I wish to respond to that by asking who is doing the  talking when we substitute those descriptive terms with racist, homophobe, and compassionless?

You simply have swallowed the party line without examining the facts and coming to your own conclusion.  First- A subsidy is a money provided by the government for the purpose of promoting something such as solar energy.  Therefore, the oil companies do not receive subsidies.  Additionally, the oil companies have available to them the same tax deductions that every other corporation in the country has access to.  When you understand the difference between a subsidy and a tax deduction, you will be better equipped to then cry and bemoan the deductions that the oil companies take.  All are lawful and were passed by the government.  Once again, you should be very pleased that the oil companies make significant profits.  Of course, what you don't consider is that they also take significant risks but that doesn't matter to you.  When British Petroleum caused all that damage in the gulf last year, they were able to be financially responsible for everything without needing a government/taxpayer funded bailout and a bankruptcy.  Thus they are still employing thousands of people who pay a lot of taxes based on their income.  If they had not earned significant profits over the years, they would have gone under, thousands of people would have been added to the unemployment roles, and government tax revenues would have declined due to the lost jobs and the taxes paid by British Petroleum.  If and when that would have taken place, the government would need more money and would cry out (with your full support) that some other industry and some group of individuals weren't paying their fair share-  It never ends

Then how do you know they are "full of crap"?  Watch the video- it is merely a collection of clips from Mr. Obama speaking on various occasions.

Just watched a segment on Sixty Minutes about this program called Year Up.  It is a highly successful program intended solely for the disadvantaged that gives them an opportunity they might otherwise not get.  All of you lefties who believe that the right consists of greedy, uncaring, rich people need to take notice and understand what this program is achieving WITHOUT GOVERNMENT assistance and WITHOUT TAXPAYER DOLLARS.  And the majority of the participants are the Wall Streeters that you have been taught to hate ( even though you really don't know why, you have just accepted that they are evil)  THis program has high standards and demands accountability.  I heard one instructor say that if you are late to class because the bus was late, that simply isn't acceptable.  Young people who come out of this program are producing at a very high rate and have become productive citizens without throwing endless taxpayer dollars at it.  Donations are coming in from all over the country and you need to know that those evil Republicans are heavily involved in the donations and even more heavily involved in the education process.  This is PROOF POSITIVE that there are often times better ways to solve problems that having a bloated, inefficient, and unaccountable government handling the process and it is damn sure more productive than Occupy Wall Street demonstrations.  Big Girl, what would you do if someone you knew took advantage of this program and became a Wall Street success story?  Would you cheer them for what they have accomplished or would you demonize them for becoming a productive member of  the "establishment"?

Just watched a segment on Sixty Minutes about this program called Year Up.  It is a highly successful program intended solely for the disadvantaged that gives them an opportunity they might otherwise not get.  All of you lefties who believe that the right consists of greedy, uncaring, rich people need to take notice and understand what this program is achieving WITHOUT GOVERNMENT assistance and WITHOUT TAXPAYER DOLLARS.  And the majority of the participants are the Wall Streeters that you have been taught to hate ( even though you really don't know why, you have just accepted that they are evil)  THis program has high standards and demands accountability.  I heard one instructor say that if you are late to class because the bus was late, that simply isn't acceptable.  Young people who come out of this program are producing at a very high rate and have become productive citizens without throwing endless taxpayer dollars at it.  Donations are coming in from all over the country and you need to know that those evil Republicans are heavily involved in the donations and even more heavily involved in the education process.  This is PROOF POSITIVE that there are often times better ways to solve problems that having a bloated, inefficient, and unaccountable government handling the process and it is damn sure more productive than Occupy Wall Street demonstrations.  Big Girl, what would you do if someone you knew took advantage of this program and became a Wall Street success story?  Would you cheer them for what they have accomplished or would you demonize them for becoming a productive member of  the "establishment"?

You simply have swallowed the party line without examining the facts and coming to your own conclusion.  First- A subsidy is a money provided by the government for the purpose of promoting something such as solar energy.  Therefore, the oil companies do not receive subsidies.  Additionally, the oil companies have available to them the same tax deductions that every other corporation in the country has access to.  When you understand the difference between a subsidy and a tax deduction, you will be better equipped to then cry and bemoan the deductions that the oil companies take.  All are lawful and were passed by the government.  Once again, you should be very pleased that the oil companies make significant profits.  Of course, what you don't consider is that they also take significant risks but that doesn't matter to you.  When British Petroleum caused all that damage in the gulf last year, they were able to be financially responsible for everything without needing a government/taxpayer funded bailout and a bankruptcy.  Thus they are still employing thousands of people who pay a lot of taxes based on their income.  If they had not earned significant profits over the years, they would have gone under, thousands of people would have been added to the unemployment roles, and government tax revenues would have declined due to the lost jobs and the taxes paid by British Petroleum.  If and when that would have taken place, the government would need more money and would cry out (with your full support) that some other industry and some group of individuals weren't paying their fair share-  It never ends

I bought a bird feeder.  I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed.  What a beauty of a bird feeder it was, as I filled it lovingly with seed.  Within a week, we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.   But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table and next to the barbeque.  Then came the poop.  It was everywhere:  on the patio tile, the chairs, the table- everywhere.   Then some of the birds turned mean.  They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.  And others birds were boisterous and loud.  They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.   After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.  So I took down the bird feeder and in three days, the birds were gone.  I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests thy had built all over the patio.  Soon, the back yard was like it used to be....quiet, serene... and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
 
Now, lets see.....  Our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care and free education, and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.  Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands.  Suddenly our taxes went up to pay  for free servies:  small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; Your childs second grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesnt speak English.    Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box;  I have to "press one" to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people are wavings flags other than "ours" are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
 
Is it time to take down the bird feeder?

I never said they were the only ones on welfare.  NEVER EVER had made such a reference.  You have simply stereotyped me into what you want me to be.  We have a system that makes welfare easy and profitable and there is little if anything done to discourage being on welfare.  It has become a generational way of life for some.  I have a close relative who was in the beauty shop yesterday getting her hair done.  She said she listened as one individual ( Caucasian) was talking loudly about how she could not spend too much money on that new car she wanted because she would have some of her "support" taken away from her.  Here she sits, while getting a manicure and a pedicure ( two real necessary items for anyone) and she paid for both of them with her EBT card while bragging how she is manipulating the system.  Let me give you a clue- this is not an isolated instance.

I bought a bird feeder.  I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed.  What a beauty of a bird feeder it was, as I filled it lovingly with seed.  Within a week, we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.   But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table and next to the barbeque.  Then came the poop.  It was everywhere:  on the patio tile, the chairs, the table- everywhere.   Then some of the birds turned mean.  They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.  And others birds were boisterous and loud.  They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.   After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.  So I took down the bird feeder and in three days, the birds were gone.  I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests thy had built all over the patio.  Soon, the back yard was like it used to be....quiet, serene... and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
 
Now, lets see.....  Our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care and free education, and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.  Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands.  Suddenly our taxes went up to pay  for free servies:  small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; Your childs second grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesnt speak English.    Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box;  I have to "press one" to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people are wavings flags other than "ours" are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
 
Is it time to take down the bird feeder?

Translation:  What I said sounded good but I cant prove it

H.L. Nencken ( Born 1990-died 1956) was a journalist, satirist, critic and Democrat.  He wrote the editorial below while working for the Baltimore Evening Sun, which appeared in the July 26, 1920 edition.
 
" AS democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner sould of the people.  On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron"
 
--H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

H.L. Nencken ( Born 1990-died 1956) was a journalist, satirist, critic and Democrat.  He wrote the editorial below while working for the Baltimore Evening Sun, which appeared in the July 26, 1920 edition.
 
" AS democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner sould of the people.  On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron"
 
--H.L. Mencken, the Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

Big Girl- if you are troubled by this event that took place over 2 decades ago, you certainly must be very mad about the President promising a 21st Century VA and yet many vets have died because they couldn't get an appointment or were on a false waiting list.  Does that make you mad?  And you must really be enraged at all the child murders taking place in the Presidents home town.

Isnt it simply amazing how easy it is to walk into this country from Mexico and yet Tahmooressi is still being held in Mexico?

Rest assured that every person coming in within these groups is NOT a poor little disadvantaged kid.  There are enemies within these groups that are entering the country.

I bought a bird feeder.  I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed.  What a beauty of a bird feeder it was, as I filled it lovingly with seed.  Within a week, we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.   But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table and next to the barbeque.  Then came the poop.  It was everywhere:  on the patio tile, the chairs, the table- everywhere.   Then some of the birds turned mean.  They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.  And others birds were boisterous and loud.  They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.   After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.  So I took down the bird feeder and in three days, the birds were gone.  I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests thy had built all over the patio.  Soon, the back yard was like it used to be....quiet, serene... and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
 
Now, lets see.....  Our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care and free education, and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.  Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands.  Suddenly our taxes went up to pay  for free servies:  small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; Your childs second grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesnt speak English.    Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box;  I have to "press one" to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people are wavings flags other than "ours" are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
 
Is it time to take down the bird feeder?

I bought a bird feeder.  I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed.  What a beauty of a bird feeder it was, as I filled it lovingly with seed.  Within a week, we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.   But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table and next to the barbeque.  Then came the poop.  It was everywhere:  on the patio tile, the chairs, the table- everywhere.   Then some of the birds turned mean.  They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.  And others birds were boisterous and loud.  They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.   After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.  So I took down the bird feeder and in three days, the birds were gone.  I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests thy had built all over the patio.  Soon, the back yard was like it used to be....quiet, serene... and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
 
Now, lets see.....  Our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care and free education, and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.  Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands.  Suddenly our taxes went up to pay  for free servies:  small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; Your childs second grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesnt speak English.    Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box;  I have to "press one" to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people are wavings flags other than "ours" are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
 
Is it time to take down the bird feeder?

Smitty- Some have become so accustomed to hearing/accepting the lying( because, of course, the cause is sufficiently noble that lying is ok) that they honestly no longer interpret it as lying.  As long as they can find examples of someone else lying in the past, all is well.

But if you don't let them cross the border they DONT HAVE TO BE DEPORTED

:D  :D

Big Girl- You have constantly made reference to my desire for a smaller Federal government and you seem to agree that Texas should handle the border issue.  Are you now saying that a smaller, less intrusive Federal government is desireable?