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[quote name="Pirates" post="758174" timestamp="1265842552"] Reprint from the Vidor Shopper 2/10/2010 David Ball Since the Crosby Cougars canceled an upcoming football game this fall with the Vidor Pirates, an Internet forum with a cross section of Southeast sports – www.setxsports.com – has been buzzing with rumors. One of those rumors – The elephant in the room – is some on the Crosby ISD school board didn’t want to travel to Vidor because of SAFETY concerns for their players and perceived racism in Vidor. Michael Joseph, superintendent of schools for Crosby ISD wrote via e-mail the decision to cancel the game was made solely by the superintendent of schools.  Crosby board member, administrators and community members did not know Crosby was considering playing Vidor. “I canceled the game because of the distance and cost involved in the teams playing each other.  On December 12, 2009, our community passed a Tax Ratification Election.  In the weeks leading up to it at several community meetings, I promised to make the best use of taxpayer money”. “While we have traveled to Waco the last two years, we will not be going there next year.  We do go to PN-G once every two years.  Everyone in Texas knows of the great tradition there and it is good for our fans to see the great support and atmosphere that is at PN-G.  We want to be like them “Joseph wrote. Joseph added their district is looking at saving money and using tax payer money efficiently in everything they do. “That is the reality of property-poor public school districts in Texas today,” he wrote. Dr. Joe Burns, superintendent of Vidor ISD, said the decision to cancel the game was Crosby’s to make, not Vidor. “They just won’t get a chance to find out there’s a lot of good people in Vidor and a chance to see our rich tradition and heritage,” he said.  â€œWe’re going to move on, our kids are the best.  The very best.” Burns said he hasn’t heard from Joseph before or after the cancellation.  He added he has to take Joseph’s word the reasons were financial. Vidor ISD is currently working on replacing Crosby with Texas High of Texarkana and Kirbyville on the schedule. “This will be a better situation.  The (Vidor) kids will be tested early.  If there’s an issue with Vidor, I would ask for them to call and say so with their concerns,” Burns said.  â€œI wish Crosby the best in their endeavors and I’m sorry about this.” Vidor head coach and athletic director Jeff Mathews said he could not comment on the game cancellation but he did say he set out to do two things when he was hired as head coach: no one would love the kids more than he and to do everything in his power to change the way people who live outside of Vidor looks at Vidor. “People won’t let Vidor out of this stigma,” Mathews said. “I don’t have a racist kid on my team.  I’ll put our kids against any in the area and I promise you none of them are less racist than ours.  I really believe that.  It’s time people outside of Vidor start letting that go.” [/quote] Hu? I didn't know 80miles of Travel was that big of a deal...

[quote name="raideroldtimer" post="756795" timestamp="1265619024"] [quote author=(13) link=topic=65269.msg756761#msg756761 date=1265601834] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=65269.msg756606#msg756606 date=1265577375] [quote author=the_dude_abides link=topic=65269.msg755438#msg755438 date=1265374468] cougtalk. really? crosby is just being crosby on this one. classy move cougars. [/quote] As Dayton is Dayton and Vidor is Vidor? this exact post is what your criticizing crosby for. Your saying that Crosby is always this way and has always been this way, just like our administrators apparently think Vidor has always been they way they were and will always be in thier eyes. Congrats your exact insinuation is what your criticizing, its a freaking hypocracy. (this is not an attack on anyone else haven't had a problem with other psot so far.) [/quote] Great post. I live near Crosby, not in it, but I know the place. Crosby is an old farming and ranching community and deserves better than what is being written on this board.  Crosby is more than the community of Newport and more than the community of Barrett Station. Newport came along in the 70's and those people came from places all over the state and all over the nation to live there.  I personally think this thread has gotten way too much bad publicity for Crosby that they do not deserve.  Most of those people don't have a clue what their school board decides or doesn't decide. [/quote] "As Dayton is Dayton", hmm, I'd be willing to bet Dayton wouldn't drop a game against Vidor, even if most of their players were of a different race. For one thing, Dayton likes the competition over here because it's more competitive year in and year out than over there. Those Broncs are always chomping at the bit to get one of the Golden Triangle teams in their sites win or lose. KF should have stood those school board members down, those folks weren't using any logical sense, just irrational fears. [/quote] I wasn't saying Dayton is bad but it was just making a point dayton is dayton and thier proud of what they are, Stewarts mentality of football is now engrained in that town... nothing negative but, i wasn't to happy about a porevious post (not ment to be rude to dayton alothough someone  (whos from Lumberton) took it that way... how odd.

Hum... Crosby Dayton GCM Lee No particular order. someone said losing record amkes playoffs not likely, i forsee a rough year for BH (first years in systems aren't always easy)-NF-CE KING. I honestly could see this be a district where you have one team who wins one game and another that wins 0 (not BH FYI i'm thinking 2-3 wins not trying to be mean) I think the district champ can only lose 1 game, and i bet at the end of the day its gonna be Crosby and Dayton both with 1 loss (in district) and the winner of that game deciding who is the district champion.

So this would be a second round district for 19-4a then correct?

I got a prediction to start the season off with 1's will be Crosby/Dayton 2's will be Lee/GCM I see Lee Losing Both games to C+D but possibly a three way tie between Lee, BH, GCM with points going to Lee and GCM. Sorry Bh but thats where my mind rest right now.

[quote name="oldsarge777" post="756492" timestamp="1265562770"] Where did Xavier Franks sign?  I don't see his name.  Didn't he move from Crosby to get better offers? [/quote] Hes a senior this year i believe.

[quote name="the_dude_abides" post="755438" timestamp="1265374468"] cougtalk. really? crosby is just being crosby on this one. classy move cougars. [/quote] As Dayton is Dayton and Vidor is Vidor? this exact post is what your criticizing crosby for. Your saying that Crosby is always this way and has always been this way, just like our administrators apparently think Vidor has always been they way they were and will always be in thier eyes. Congrats your exact insinuation is what your criticizing, its a freaking hypocracy. (this is not an attack on anyone else haven't had a problem with other psot so far.)

I always luv when my school puts out a roster thats WRONG! gotta luv it, those kids i listed were all from the Crosby HS "roster" link gotta love it. W/E In Dom we trust =P

ON that awesome predistrict schedule for the Cougs, we can either come out of that limping or with a ton of Confidence, either way, its gonna be Crosby and Dayton deciding another championship in the 19-4a? ooo we got our number back lol. So just wondering Did Lee lose alot of talent because of GCM? because they used to be very good every year but sicne GCM came to be they haven't been very good. And one thing everyone has to look forward too welcoming Lee to THE 19-4a, not like those other weaker 4a districts =P (i know i ahd to throw the jab in sorry Nederland/PNG/Central/Vidor/EtC. )

GL atleast now it'll be a good game seems like for the past few years you've guys have been in the cougs heads, atleast this game won't have that, it'll be a Cougars team whos not scared and ready to play, vs a pissed off Broncos teamwhos ahd to hear this all year 28-0!

[quote name="Diamond-J" post="755229" timestamp="1265317488"] I understand more than you know----read it again---if TWO swayed him then that is not a majority, if it was at least 4 then those four need to go, and IF it was a majority the your AD needs to stand up to them Do you really think they would run him off after he FINALLY won a district title and beat Dayton?????---hence he should grow some................. [/quote] You know its people like you who cause these flame threads and attempt to undermine a good man. I won't defend the school board members, but Mr. Joesph doesn't need to stand up for anyone the need to be men and women and make thier own decisions. Anyone know the vote on this i.e. who said aye and nay, until you do your worthless speculation is pathetic. I think the last sentence was directed at Flanagan? if so hes not running infact unofficially he simply added a better team than vidor to play, Dawson, and Motgomery are better teams. And obviously this wasn't flannigans decision, if it was he would of just dropped them himself. HAHHA whats funny is your trying to construe this as running when we actually scheduled better teams.

[quote name="Diamond-J" post="755221" timestamp="1265316915"] [quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=65269.msg755195#msg755195 date=1265315671] Ok, First this is an issue with certian school board members. NOT our superintendent. Mr. Joesph is the farthest thing from a bigot i've ever seen, an extremely gracious man and a great leader of our school. Second, was not thier when this decision was made, i've had my own dislikes of certian school board members, and yes perhapsthey are still living in the 60's, but what can our Superintendent or Coaches do about this? Nothing. If you wanted to turn this into a shaming Crosby thing i find that hard to believe, i went to Crosby and know thier are "some" bigots, but the majority of us are good people who are completely ok with going to vidor or whatever. Honestly going to Dayton this year scares me a little more than going to Vidor (because thier will be riots when we beat you guys again) Plz cease from blaming the entire area for the fact that we have a few people behind times in power positions (i believe all of our school boards have this problem) Also thiers talk of talking about Barrett, I'd like to point out that the Staduim is in the heart of Crosby and about 4 miles from Barret (perhaps less dunno) I don't know why they have safety concerns was their an event that would warrant this? [/quote]1. If two members intimidated at least two more then there are four that need to go or if two told the sup what to do then the sup is weak and needs to go............and if all that happens then your AD needs to grow some ca-hones and hold his ground....or he needs to go Any way you slice it you have some weak and stupid people in charge           [/quote] You do realize that if the school board amkes a decision the sueper intendent has to enforce it correct? if not i'm sorry that you don't understand these decisions are ultimately the school boards and not the siperintendents.

ok we have more coming back than you think. Forrest Tyler will probably play RB (he did his sophmore year) and we have a 6ft 5' WR coming back according to the Roster kid named Ashton Martin. WR's on Varsity who are returning Ashton Martin Forrest Tyler Jacoby Scott MJ MAthis We do have only 2 Varsity linemen coming back DEFENSE LOSES THESE PLAYERS All but 1 LB i believe OUR D Line rotations and 1 DB but we have alot of kids who are gonna be ready to play. If everyone remembers we weren't supposed to be great last year.

Nah no rebuilding buddy just reloading. If the line holds up (we've traditionally had good lines) we will do fine, we still have a huge playmaker at QB.

[quote name="the_dude_abides" post="753520" timestamp="1265084928"] So Dayton has two 5A teams and one of the area's best 4A teams.  I like it! [/quote] This should be a very fun year, Lee better be ready to get hit =P. Go Cougs time to repeat!

Crosby- Dominic Merka GL to those who have to face him this year (especially if he stays healthy, unlike last year)

Ok, First this is an issue with certian school board members. NOT our superintendent. Mr. Joesph is the farthest thing from a bigot i've ever seen, an extremely gracious man and a great leader of our school. Second, was not thier when this decision was made, i've had my own dislikes of certian school board members, and yes perhapsthey are still living in the 60's, but what can our Superintendent or Coaches do about this? Nothing. If you wanted to turn this into a shaming Crosby thing i find that hard to believe, i went to Crosby and know thier are "some" bigots, but the majority of us are good people who are completely ok with going to vidor or whatever. Honestly going to Dayton this year scares me a little more than going to Vidor (because thier will be riots when we beat you guys again) Plz cease from blaming the entire area for the fact that we have a few people behind times in power positions (i believe all of our school boards have this problem) Also thiers talk of talking about Barrett, I'd like to point out that the Staduim is in the heart of Crosby and about 4 miles from Barret (perhaps less dunno) I don't know why they have safety concerns was thier an event that would warrant this?

[quote name="Matt" post="729655" timestamp="1260737926"] OMG Crosby beats dayton 1 time in 9 years, and now they are getting screwed over, no respect, blah blah blah, stop whining so much, jeez.... You got 1 more year of running your mouths, then it will be another decade before you can thump your (we beat dayton) chest's again..... [/quote] This is ignorant. Many people who got to see Merka play on a game to game Basis understand something you probably don't, in our eyes hes not the MVP because of statistics, hes the MVP because when it was Crunch time he wanted the ball and he almost always delivered (minus an almost impossible 4th an 13 against dawson, fake punt) His stats are good aswell, even with the more yard we had a QB get 7+ YPC, is he the MVP i personally don't think so but Offensive MVP most definitely. PLOCH is my opponion wins the MVP because of his BOTH way preformances good QB play, WR play, RB play, and CB play. As for thinking next year is in the bags for you, id teach my kids how to hold on to the ball before i start talking smack. Also i hope your CB's are all playton Ploch next year because you'll need 8 in the box to stop the Crosby Run game and Im sure that Merka will develop the passing game alot mroe, and our recievers are for the most part juniors. Good luck next year, regardless of the Crosby-Dayton game i hope that its the deciding factor once again in the district championship. As for everyone talking about the pass 9 years Dayton ahs dominated the entire district for about 10 years so anyone other than a DAYTON fan should shut thier CPU down and let the real teas in this district talk.

[quote name="the_dude_abides" post="731094" timestamp="1260928768"] 1. One (CROSBY) who attempts to equal or surpass another (DAYTON), or who pursues the same object as another; a competitor. 2. One (NOT CROSBY) that equals or almost equals another (DAYTON) in a particular respect So, by your definition, the game is a rivalry for Crosby and not Dayton. [/quote] We surpassed dayton this year... quagmire. And in the past the games have been competitive in some respects. scores never tell the whole story. Its funny how Dayton ebats us bad 2 years ina  row, after winning sometimes by the skin of thier teeth the previous 8 years and its they've "destroyed" crosby, the only thing your destroying is your own dignity.

We had a WR QB Combo in 02? one went to Lousiana Tech the other somewhere else, if i remember right we lsot that game but we made that dayton defense look silly (to bad we didn't have a defense. We had a guy go to UTEP aswell. as for Baylor not counting... Your an idiot. also the reference of "crosby as the Baylor of this area" thier are several problems with this analogy, 1 we've won two district titles in three years. 2) we beat Dayton so get over yourselves... as for BH and GCM beat us before you say anything. In fact BH seems to eb the Baylor of the area... you know exceeding in everything that doesn't matter... Also GCM your to young to even sniff what a rivalry is. Statistics are one thing, beating us next year something completely different... when Dayton can stop Merka let me know... another year older another year bigger and another year of playing QB for the COugars... FYI Crosby and Dayton BOTH SUCKED PRIOR TO STEWARt, so get over yourselves.

[quote name="BHFAN" post="728422" timestamp="1260578350"] [quote author=EAGLE07 link=topic=63648.msg728229#msg728229 date=1260558676] [quote author=J Creeper link=topic=63648.msg728227#msg728227 date=1260558473] [quote author=the_dude_abides link=topic=63648.msg728215#msg728215 date=1260557340] You live in texas, nobody cares how good your girls track team is or whether or not your coed softball team has talent.  The radioactive chemicals at the superfund site in barrett must have leaked into your water. [/quote] Funny that you have to resort to mentioning girls sports.  How do you think you guys will fare in basketball and baseball?  Kinda like last year?   :D [/quote] I'll take Barbers Hill in baseball.  ;) [/quote] I'll take BH in the rest of the UIL competitions till the end of the school year ;D ;D [/quote] Thats assuring a Loss... If Crosby is good at one thing its Debate what is it 19 straight district titles now. not to mention a couple state titles =P

[quote name="bigdaddyblue" post="720110" timestamp="1259472700"] Loss due to size????It was speed..Crosby has no speed on defense and it showed today...We never even came close to stopping there offense....The only way we would of won would of been on the last play of the game,so there offense would not of had to come back out on the field... [/quote] This post shows an honest ignorance of the cougars defense. That Defense is fast, and was fast in that game, they didn't tackle aswell, but i'm not going to listen to BS about how they're slow... thats simply a fallacy. Crosby was the faster of the two teams and pearland was the bigger, the defense was fast but thier size negated that by good lead blocking. Watch the game then post your simply wrong.

LULZ the cougs gamne was betetr =P

Ok I need a speed report a true one... because im trying to make an informed decision. This is gonna sound funny but because of realitive size equality, i'll go with Brenham if thier fast, Honestly from what ive seen of Brenham they remind me of Dayton.... no seriously, kinda wierd but they look alot alike, i.e. VERY GOOD DEFENSES, and GOOD individual preformers who play both ways. Key to the Game Keeping Ploch, and Franks Fresh for the offense. No lie I'd Be scared of a Ploch, Franks read option.

Saw the score att the crosby game early, said to my ma they ain't out of it yet. =Pguess i was right.