Tommy Collins - New HF coach-They got a good one

[setxbbfan]

I have known Tommy for over 20 years.  I was a volunteer assistant with Lamar (Tony Branch) and Tommy was on that staff.  He is a hard-nosed defensive specialist.  He is a no-nonesense guy that the SERIOUS Players will love.  His brother played for the Cinc.Reds back in their hay-day. (Not sure how to spell hay-day)  HF just got a real good one.

[stevenash]

Since your post above, there has been total silence here for close to 48 hours.  I wonder if that is a record?

[setxbbfan]

I know...it was making me nervous. 

[dawg13]

Seems like some people cant comment on the unknown.

[jenks]

This is a great hire. A lot of experience at the college level.

[Dick Vitale]

Don't know the guy, but apparently he was on the Lamar staff when my brother played there...Don't know how good of a hire it is or not, but I wish him luck anyway.

[stevenash]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1226245" timestamp="1338051789"]
Don't know the guy, but apparently he was on the Lamar staff when my brother played there...Don't know how good of a hire it is or not, but I wish him luck anyway.
[/quote]

The other individual who said it was a great hire has a pretty good basketball pedigree himself so why not take his word for it.

[Dick Vitale]

Who said I didn't...I just said that I didn't know the guy...He has to contend with Yates next season too, so we will see how good he is then... ;) 8)

[stevenash]

[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1226299" timestamp="1338071984"]
Who said I didn't...I just said that I didn't know the guy...He has to contend with Yates next season too, so we will see how good he is then... ;) 8)
[/quote]

So if you dont beat Yates you are somehow not a good coach?  HF wont beat Yates if they hire Phil Jackson.( and, of course, HF only uses players from their area- what a foreign concept to some) ALso circumstances dictate that it is unlikely HF and Yates will meet next season.  Why on earth would you suggest that as a barometer of competence?  Is Pat Knight not a good coach because they were beaten soundly  by Kentucky?    Are Mr. Sutherland and Mr. Sigler poor coaches for having lost to each other?  Your suggestion does not contain a lot of logic.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1226381" timestamp="1338081318"]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100175.msg1226299#msg1226299 date=1338071984]
Who said I didn't...I just said that I didn't know the guy...He has to contend with Yates next season too, so we will see how good he is then... ;) 8)
[/quote]

So if you dont beat Yates you are somehow not a good coach?  HF wont beat Yates if they hire Phil Jackson.( and, of course, HF only uses players from their area- what a foreign concept to some) ALso circumstances dictate that it is unlikely HF and Yates will meet next season.  Why on earth would you suggest that as a barometer of competence?  Is Pat Knight not a good coach because they were beaten soundly  by Kentucky?    Are Mr. Sutherland and Mr. Sigler poor coaches for having lost to each other?  Your suggestion does not contain a lot of logic.
[/quote]" Circumstances?"  Dictate what?

[Dick Vitale]

Once again stevenash, as you always do, you have taken a simple well wish from me to the new HF coach as some sort of insult to his ability to coach....Bottom line is this...NONE of the teams in this area will beat Yates next season...PERIOD....3A, 4A, or 5A....It matters not.....how about that?...As far as playing with "area" kids, I think you should just stop right there...Really?  ::) ::)

[bobbymcgee]

So let me get this straight... H-F has had for its head basketball coach the last four guys: a football/baseball coach, a girls basketball coach, a middle school basketball coach and now a former college coach who hadn't coached high schools since the 1970s.

How about hiring a boys high school basketball coach to coach the boys high school basketball team? Try that and see how it works.

[Dick Vitale]

[quote name="bobbymcgee" post="1226446" timestamp="1338138363"]
So let me get this straight... H-F has had for its head basketball coach the last four guys: a football/baseball coach, a girls basketball coach, a middle school basketball coach and now a former college coach who hadn't coached high schools since the 1970s.

How about hiring a boys high school basketball coach to coach the boys high school basketball team? Try that and see how it works.
[/quote]
Thats an interesting point of view....

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1226442" timestamp="1338133016"]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100175.msg1226381#msg1226381 date=1338081318]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100175.msg1226299#msg1226299 date=1338071984]
Who said I didn't...I just said that I didn't know the guy...He has to contend with Yates next season too, so we will see how good he is then... ;) 8)
[/quote]

So if you dont beat Yates you are somehow not a good coach?  HF wont beat Yates if they hire Phil Jackson.( and, of course, HF only uses players from their area- what a foreign concept to some) ALso circumstances dictate that it is unlikely HF and Yates will meet next season.  Why on earth would you suggest that as a barometer of competence?  Is Pat Knight not a good coach because they were beaten soundly  by Kentucky?    Are Mr. Sutherland and Mr. Sigler poor coaches for having lost to each other?  Your suggestion does not contain a lot of logic.
[/quote]" Circumstances?"  Dictate what?
[/quote]

The aforementioned circumstances would have HF getting far enough in the playoffs to encounter Yates.

[dawg13]

You noticed that did'nt you cant slip nothing passed you.GO HF :-* :-* :-* :-\

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1226473" timestamp="1338151158"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=100175.msg1226442#msg1226442 date=1338133016]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100175.msg1226381#msg1226381 date=1338081318]
[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=100175.msg1226299#msg1226299 date=1338071984]
Who said I didn't...I just said that I didn't know the guy...He has to contend with Yates next season too, so we will see how good he is then... ;) 8)
[/quote]

So if you dont beat Yates you are somehow not a good coach?  HF wont beat Yates if they hire Phil Jackson.( and, of course, HF only uses players from their area- what a foreign concept to some) ALso circumstances dictate that it is unlikely HF and Yates will meet next season.  Why on earth would you suggest that as a barometer of competence?  Is Pat Knight not a good coach because they were beaten soundly  by Kentucky?    Are Mr. Sutherland and Mr. Sigler poor coaches for having lost to each other?  Your suggestion does not contain a lot of logic.
[/quote]" Circumstances?"  Dictate what?
[/quote]

The aforementioned circumstances would have HF getting far enough in the playoffs to encounter Yates.
[/quote]So, you're really saying HJ will rule their region. Oh okay

[stevenash]

No way- not with that patsy schedule they play- the probably wont even make the playoffs-  I know the new HF coach and have high degree of respect for him-  at same time, it may be unrealistic to expect him to get far enough in the playoffs to encounter Yates next year

[catfever]

If you get 3rd in district 21-3A, you will play Yates in the 2nd round if you win the 1st round.  You know what that means.  The 1st place team in 21-3A will play them in Regional Quaterfinals.  2nd place will have the easier route, but still have to beat Yates.  All this is based on this past years bracket. 

[Dick Vitale]

I know what it means....I wouldn't make any reservations for Huntsville if I were them!  ;)

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="catfever" post="1227116" timestamp="1338384207"]
If you get 3rd in district 21-3A, you will play Yates in the 2nd round if you win the 1st round.  You know what that means.  The 1st place team in 21-3A will play them in Regional Quaterfinals.  2nd place will have the easier route, but still have to beat Yates.  All this is based on this past years bracket.
[/quote] Interesting!  I bet there will be some calls made to Austin [s] from HJ[/s].... ERRR I meant 21-3A reps to get the  rearranging  process started this year ;D

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1227235" timestamp="1338396979"]
[quote author=catfever link=topic=100175.msg1227116#msg1227116 date=1338384207]
If you get 3rd in district 21-3A, you will play Yates in the 2nd round if you win the 1st round.  You know what that means.  The 1st place team in 21-3A will play them in Regional Quaterfinals.  2nd place will have the easier route, but still have to beat Yates.  All this is based on this past years bracket.
[/quote] Interesting!  I bet there will be some calls made to Austin [s] from HJ[/s].... ERRR I meant 21-3A reps to get the  rearranging  process started this year ;D
[/quote]

HJ wont make the playoffs- weak schedule

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1227250" timestamp="1338399854"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=100175.msg1227235#msg1227235 date=1338396979]
[quote author=catfever link=topic=100175.msg1227116#msg1227116 date=1338384207]
If you get 3rd in district 21-3A, you will play Yates in the 2nd round if you win the 1st round.  You know what that means.  The 1st place team in 21-3A will play them in Regional Quaterfinals.  2nd place will have the easier route, but still have to beat Yates.  All this is based on this past years bracket.
[/quote] Interesting!  I bet there will be some calls made to Austin [s] from HJ[/s].... ERRR I meant 21-3A reps to get the  rearranging  process started this year ;D
[/quote]

HJ wont make the playoffs- weak schedule
[/quote] Weak schedule pre-district but will make playoffs  ::)

[stevenash]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1227257" timestamp="1338400326"]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100175.msg1227250#msg1227250 date=1338399854]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=100175.msg1227235#msg1227235 date=1338396979]
[quote author=catfever link=topic=100175.msg1227116#msg1227116 date=1338384207]
If you get 3rd in district 21-3A, you will play Yates in the 2nd round if you win the 1st round.  You know what that means.  The 1st place team in 21-3A will play them in Regional Quaterfinals.  2nd place will have the easier route, but still have to beat Yates.  All this is based on this past years bracket.
[/quote] Interesting!  I bet there will be some calls made to Austin [s] from HJ[/s].... ERRR I meant 21-3A reps to get the  rearranging  process started this year ;D
[/quote]

HJ wont make the playoffs- weak schedule
[/quote] Weak schedule pre-district but will make playoffs  ::)
[/quote]

Wont matter- if pre district is that weak, they will most certainly lose first round if they got lucky and made the playoffs

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="Stevenash" post="1227280" timestamp="1338402881"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=100175.msg1227257#msg1227257 date=1338400326]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=100175.msg1227250#msg1227250 date=1338399854]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=100175.msg1227235#msg1227235 date=1338396979]
[quote author=catfever link=topic=100175.msg1227116#msg1227116 date=1338384207]
If you get 3rd in district 21-3A, you will play Yates in the 2nd round if you win the 1st round.  You know what that means.  The 1st place team in 21-3A will play them in Regional Quaterfinals.  2nd place will have the easier route, but still have to beat Yates.  All this is based on this past years bracket.
[/quote] Interesting!  I bet there will be some calls made to Austin [s] from HJ[/s].... ERRR I meant 21-3A reps to get the  rearranging  process started this year ;D
[/quote]

HJ wont make the playoffs- weak schedule
[/quote] Weak schedule pre-district but will make playoffs  ::)
[/quote]

Wont matter- if pre district is that weak, they will most certainly lose first round if they got lucky and made the playoffs
[/quote]Not really, you'll play the third seed anyway from some weak district  ;D

[stevenash]

Sure but we both KNOW how much WEAKER our pre district schedule is.