Silsbee at West Orange Stark

[Boogy1000]

Predictions? 

 

WOS 37 Silsbee 21

[Stangfan#1]

WOS 35

Silsbee 21

[Arch for MVP]

Da stangs 42-21

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Taking WOS in this thread. 

[WOSdrummer99]

Bee Gees take the L train back to Hardin County.

Im interested in seeing progress of SO qb since the LCM scrimmage. Did they get back to full strength or do they still have some injured players out?

[AggiesAreWe]

5 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Bee Gees take the L train back to Hardin County.

Im interested in seeing progress of SO qb since the LCM scrimmage. Did they get back to full strength or do they still have some injured players out?

Matthews is 51-80 (64%) for 691 yards, 14 TD's, 0 INT's on the season. Three of the 6 games played he never attempted a pass in the 2nd half. This last game vs. Jasper he was 8-9 for 156 yards and 3 TD's all in the 1st half. In the Worthing game he only attempted 11 passes, completing 8 (all in 1st half) and in Bridge City game he only attempted 14 passes, completing 8 (all but one of those attempts were in 1st half).

Silsbee is still missing a starting LB (broken collar bone) and a starting RB/Safety (ACL). Both are very significant losses. 

[Boogy1000]

1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Matthews is 51-80 (64%) for 691 yards, 14 TD's, 0 INT's on the season. Three of the 6 games played he never attempted a pass in the 2nd half. This last game vs. Jasper he was 8-9 for 156 yards and 3 TD's all in the 1st half. In the Worthing game he only attempted 11 passes, completing 8 (all in 1st half) and in Bridge City game he only attempted 14 passes, completing 8 (all but one of those attempts were in 1st half).

Silsbee is still missing a starting LB (broken collar bone) and a starting RB/Safety (ACL). Both are very significant losses. 

Both are out for the season i believe. I dont think Silsbee defense can hold Jefferson under 200 yards. I do think Silsbee offense will move the ball on WOS. 

[WOSdrummer99]

6 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Matthews is 51-80 (64%) for 691 yards, 14 TD's, 0 INT's on the season. Three of the 6 games played he never attempted a pass in the 2nd half. This last game vs. Jasper he was 8-9 for 156 yards and 3 TD's all in the 1st half. In the Worthing game he only attempted 11 passes, completing 8 (all in 1st half) and in Bridge City game he only attempted 14 passes, completing 8 (all but one of those attempts were in 1st half).

Silsbee is still missing a starting LB (broken collar bone) and a starting RB/Safety (ACL). Both are very significant losses. 

I thought he would be more dual threat. Maxpreps, which matches the stats above shows only 1 rushing TD. Possibly hasnt been needed in that role

[AggiesAreWe]

16 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

I thought he would be more dual threat. Maxpreps, which matches the stats above shows only 1 rushing TD. Possibly hasnt been needed in that role

Yep. He doesn't run at all. Zero read option plays. 

Last year Silsbee QB Johnson was much more of a threat running the ball. He rushed for over a 1000 yards last year. (passed for 1200 as well)

Silsbee runs the ball with about 6 different backs. (5 now that one is out with ACL) Run mostly out of I and tandem. They will go shotgun some. Basically 50/50 between those formations unless Silsbee has a big lead then it's all I formation.

[dj]

4 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Bee Gees take the L train back to Hardin County.

Im interested in seeing progress of SO qb since the LCM scrimmage. Did they get back to full strength or do they still have some injured players out?

Doesn't matter!! If W.O continue to play man and bring heat they will win by a couple scores.that #1 for silsbee can play.but, w.o corners can slow him down if they play man.and they want be able to slow KJ down!!

[Boogy1000]

If I'm Silsbee, I start to run Mathews a little bit more. He has some good speed and size. Zone read could could open up the offense more. Im not a fan of the bubble screen to Williams as it seems we don't block that well and it goes for zero to very short gains. Id like to see us throw over the middle a bit more or some 10 yard comeback routes. 

WOS has rhe better team but anything csn happen. Silsbee has upset WOS a few times. 

[AggiesAreWe]

Massey projections have this one 38-21 WO-S.

[WOSdrummer99]

Told this is the pink out game

[BMTSoulja1]

I got Smoke Town By a TD.

[bullets13]

Silsbee has improved throughout the year, and common opponents are a fool's game, but based on what HF and Silsbee have done against common opponents, and based on what I saw the 2nd half from WOS last Friday, I think the stangs win this one by more than people think. Once they started switching coverages and bringing the heat our QB was seeing ghosts. With Silsbee's QB being a pocket passer, I have a feeling he's gonna be under pressure all night. 

[Boogy1000]

8 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Silsbee has improved throughout the year, and common opponents are a fool's game, but based on what HF and Silsbee have done against common opponents, and based on what I saw the 2nd half from WOS last Friday, I think the stangs win this one by more than people think. Once they started switching coverages and bringing the heat our QB was seeing ghosts. With Silsbee's QB being a pocket passer, I have a feeling he's gonna be under pressure all night. 

The key for Silsbee is the OL has to move people out the way. Silsbee is a run 1st team. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

33 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

I got Smoke Town By a TD.

Smoke Town huh. 🤣😂

[AggiesAreWe]

54 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Silsbee has improved throughout the year, and common opponents are a fool's game, but based on what HF and Silsbee have done against common opponents, and based on what I saw the 2nd half from WOS last Friday, I think the stangs win this one by more than people think. Once they started switching coverages and bringing the heat our QB was seeing ghosts. With Silsbee's QB being a pocket passer, I have a feeling he's gonna be under pressure all night. 

Good points.

One point you left out. Silsbee runs the ball much better than HF. Play action will work a little better for Silsbee than it did for HF.

If WO-S can stop the run game, it will be a long night for the Tigers.

I've always said a great pass rush is the best pass defense. WO-S proved it last Friday night and Silsbee did it last year vs. HF. Sacked this QB 6 times and hurried him a dozen more times.

I've told folks that HF's lack of a good run game will come back to haunt them against really good opponents.

[bullets13]

51 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Good points.

One point you left out. Silsbee runs the ball much better than HF. Play action will work a little better for Silsbee than it did for HF.

If WO-S can stop the run game, it will be a long night for the Tigers.

I've always said a great pass rush is the best pass defense. WO-S proved it last Friday night and Silsbee did it last year vs. HF. Sacked this QB 6 times and hurried him a dozen more times.

I've told folks that HF's lack of a good run game will come back to haunt them against really good opponents.

Our run game has been fine up until we played WOS, but I do get your point. Against Stafford, for instance, who Silsbee and HF played in back-to-back weeks, Silsbee rushed for 296 yds on 50 carries. HF the week before rushed for 269 yds on 38 carries. Against Vidor Silsbee ran twice as many times as HF, but Silsbee averaged 6.4 yds per carry while HF averaged 6.5 yds per carry. While Silsbee may run better than HF, I don't think they run much better as you claim, they just run much more. On the year Silsbee has averaged 6.4 yds per carry, and HF 5.9, and that was after a mediocre night of running against WOS, and against a tougher schedule overall.  I will say yall are without a doubt a better power running team. 

[BMTSoulja1]

1 hour ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Smoke Town huh. 🤣😂

Yea.  If you know, then you know…

[kirkwood29]

Whats the last 10 meetings between these two been like?  Just curious.  Feels like it has featured some very tight and close finishes lately, no? 

[AggiesAreWe]

2 minutes ago, kirkwood29 said:

Whats the last 10 meetings between these two been like?  Just curious.  Feels like it has featured some very tight and close finishes lately, no? 

2025         33-30  WO-S

2024         35-0   WO-S

2023        20-6   Silsbee

2022        48-27  Silsbee

2021        45-20   WO-S

2020        36-6    WO-S

2019         35-28   Silsbee  (playoffs)

2019         17-9   WO-S

2018         19-9   Silsbee  (playoffs)

2018         24-21  WO-S

[kirkwood29]

16 minutes ago, kirkwood29 said:

Whats the last 10 meetings between these two been like?  Just curious.  Feels like it has featured some very tight and close finishes lately, no? 

 

Silsbee All Time Series Record vs WOS   7-25-0

 

2025 *West Orange-Stark 33   vs      Silsbee   30 

2024 *West Orange-Stark 35  vs     Silsbee 0

2023   Silsbee   20    vs   West Orange-Stark  6

2022  Silsbee   48    vs   West Orange-Stark 27 

2021 *West Orange-Stark  45   vs    Silsbee  20

2020 *West Orange-Stark   36  vs    Silsbee 6

2019 *West Orange-Stark  17      vs      Silsbee   9        &              2019         35-28   Silsbee  (playoffs)

2018   *West Orange-Stark 24  vs     Silsbee  21             &       2018         19-9   Silsbee  (playoffs) 

2017   *West Orange-Stark  34   vs     Silsbee  17

 

Definitely some tight games in there for sure.

 

[kirkwood29]

6 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

2025         33-30  WO-S

2024         35-0   WO-S

2023        20-6   Silsbee

2022        48-27  Silsbee

2021        45-20   WO-S

2020        36-6    WO-S

2019         35-28   Silsbee  (playoffs)

2019         17-9   WO-S

2018         19-9   Silsbee  (playoffs)

2018         24-21  WO-S

Yea, I didn't understand the duplicates for 2018 and 2019 and whether or not MaxPreps was accurate or not? 

 

[AggiesAreWe]

2 minutes ago, kirkwood29 said:

 

Silsbee All Time Series Record vs WOS   7-25-0

 

2025 *West Orange-Stark 33   vs      Silsbee   30 

2024 *West Orange-Stark 35  vs     Silsbee 0

2023   Silsbee   20    vs   West Orange-Stark  6

2022  Silsbee   48    vs   West Orange-Stark 27 

2021 *West Orange-Stark  45   vs    Silsbee  20

2020 *West Orange-Stark   36  vs    Silsbee 6

2019 *West Orange-Stark  17      vs      Silsbee   9   

2018   *West Orange-Stark 24  vs     Silsbee  21

2017   *West Orange-Stark  34   vs     Silsbee  17

 

Definitely some tight games in there for sure.

 

You left off the two playoff wins Silsbee has over WO-S in 2018 and 2019.