Iran War Update

[DCT]

6 hours ago, Reagan said:

 

True dat!

 

[Reagan]

5 hours ago, DCT said:

Taco 🌮 Tuesday.  Sad but it’s not even funny.  
 

Iran blinks and cries uncle!

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[DCT]

7 hours ago, Reagan said:

Iran blinks and cries uncle!

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 No, it was Taco Day. He gave in to Iran's 10-point demands. Something in those demands made him take a serious look?

I don't believe that at all.  Too much theatrical posture throughout the weekend came out of Trumps pie hole.

of April 2026, the Trump administration proposed a 15-point ceasefire plan to Iran aimed at ending the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, delivered via Pakistan. The proposal, largely seen as a "maximum pressure" strategy, included demands for dismantling major nuclear sites, ending enrichment, curbing missile capabilities, and stopping support for regional proxies in exchange for lifting sanctions. 

Key components of the reported 15-point proposal by Trump include:

• Nuclear Restrictions: Iran must halt all uranium enrichment, destroy nuclear facilities (Natanz, Fordow), and turn over all enriched material to the IAEA.
• Military & Proxy Reductions: Limits on the range and quantity of Iran's ballistic missiles, alongside a full stop to support for regional armed groups.
• Regional Security: Reopening the Strait of Hormuz for shipping and ending strikes on regional energy infrastructure.
• Sanctions Relief: The U.S. offered to remove nuclear-related sanctions and allow for the potential reconstruction of Iranian infrastructure.
• Surveillance: Enhanced, intrusive IAEA monitoring of Iran's remaining nuclear infrastructure. 
   

The plan was rejected by Iran as "illogical" and "extremely ambitious," with Iranian officials describing the demands as excessive and a violation of sovereignty. Despite the public rejection, negotiations continued, with reports of an agreed temporary ceasefire to allow for discussions.

[baddog]

Well now, us MAGAs sure are stupid. Look at the crude oil price today. I mean it’s all the dems are worried about anyway.  It doesn’t matter that Trump is attempting to negotiate with Iran and possibly bring peace to the ME. All that matters is your indignation and your own cost for fueling your vehicle.

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[OlDawg]

This is a mistake. If mission objectives weren't accomplished--which I fail to see how they have been at this point--the 2 week ceasefire will mean POTUS 60 days will run out. An authorization for extended military action of any kind won't be authorized.

The Administration has decided polling is more important than completing the mission. Typical. 

This will go down as another "Mission half accomplished with a lot of wasted money, and some very valuable lives." Shame.

If this was going to be the outcome, nothing should have ever been started. Whoever believed an air campaign alone could accomplish the mission of securing/destroying all nuclear material, removing an oppressive, terrorist regime, and making Hormuz an open international waterway devoid of threats against shipping were fools from the start.

I don't blame our military. They developed plans per direction, and carried them out with efficiency. I just get tired of weak-kneed politicians starting something they're not willing to finish.

There's a reason war is supposed to be difficult to start. I'm afraid all this remote warfare is making things way too easy.

 

[thetragichippy]

13 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

This is a mistake. If mission objectives weren't accomplished--which I fail to see how they have been at this point--the 2 week ceasefire will mean POTUS 60 days will run out. An authorization for extended military action of any kind won't be authorized.

The Administration has decided polling is more important than completing the mission. Typical. 

This will go down as another "Mission half accomplished with a lot of wasted money, and some very valuable lives." Shame.

If this was going to be the outcome, nothing should have ever been started. Whoever believed an air campaign alone could accomplish the mission of securing/destroying all nuclear material, removing an oppressive, terrorist regime, and making Hormuz an open international waterway devoid of threats against shipping were fools from the start.

I don't blame our military. They developed plans per direction, and carried them out with efficiency. I just get tired of weak-kneed politicians starting something they're not willing to finish.

There's a reason war is supposed to be difficult to start. I'm afraid all this remote warfare is making things way too easy.

 

I still believe we don't know what we don't know. 

If anyone was expecting Iranian leadership to come out waiving a white flag, they were very wrong. 

We can easily go back to bombing them into a crater.  That was never the goal.  The main goal past all the other noise was for Iran not to have a nuclear weapon.  Trump would rather a peace deal.  Our Government is not telling us all the details and they shouldn't. 

As far as the bombing, all they have is the equivalent of the Pony Express as far as communication.  It may take a few days to get the cease fire information to the front line.

[OlDawg]

19 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I still believe we don't know what we don't know. 

If anyone was expecting Iranian leadership to come out waiving a white flag, they were very wrong. 

We can easily go back to bombing them into a crater.  That was never the goal.  The main goal past all the other noise was for Iran not to have a nuclear weapon.  Trump would rather a peace deal.  Our Government is not telling us all the details and they shouldn't. 

As far as the bombing, all they have is the equivalent of the Pony Express as far as communication.  It may take a few days to get the cease fire information to the front line.

Not without an Authorization--which won't be coming. POTUS only had 60 days.

If ALL nuclear material is recovered, IAEA is allowed full access forever, and verification is a condition, that would be an improvement. But, anyone that trusts the regime without constant monitoring is twice the fool.

[TheMissingBand]

46 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

 

and making Hormuz an open international waterway devoid of threats against shipping were fools from the start.

 

 

 

ummm… Hormuz was open and devoid of threats or tolls until we hopped on Iraq. 

[thetragichippy]

49 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Not without an Authorization--which won't be coming. POTUS only had 60 days.

There is a 30 day withdrawal period if congress does not approve. So, he could drag this out 90 days. 

He could also say - ok - and let Israel take over and support them.

Personally I think he wants this done and over so he can claim victory and work on Mid-Terms. If Democrats get a good majority in house, we are going to have a repeat of the 2016 impeachment circus 

[OlDawg]

15 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

There is a 30 day withdrawal period if congress does not approve. So, he could drag this out 90 days. 

He could also say - ok - and let Israel take over and support them.

Personally I think he wants this done and over so he can claim victory and work on Mid-Terms. If Democrats get a good majority in house, we are going to have a repeat of the 2016 impeachment circus 

I believe he's on day 40 of 60. You don't get a restart. If there is a 2 week ceasefire, that puts it at day 54. The withdrawal period means no offensive, kinetic action can take place. Also, he couldn't support Israel in any meaningful way--other than intel--without authorization.

Basically, he's saying he's done. Now, he's just trying to make a deal. But, he's left himself with no cards. Restarting isn't going to be a go, and the regime still has control.

[thetragichippy]

Pres. Trump declared a cease fire for 2 weeks on the condition that Iran open the Strait. 

It looks like in less than 24 hour Iran has not met the condition and it did not honor the ceasefire yesterday when it launched missile and drone attacks around the Middle East. 

Pres. Trump has them back in a condition of not knowing when or what he might opt to do next because the two week window is now inoperative whether they realize it or not.  

US, Israel and the Gulf States are collecting signals and human intelligence that will inform what needs to be done next.

It's comical how little the press seems to learn by simply watching similar sequences of events unfold over time.
 

-ShipwreckedCrew - on X

[OlDawg]

8 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Pres. Trump declared a cease fire for 2 weeks on the condition that Iran open the Strait. 

It looks like in less than 24 hour Iran has not met the condition and it did not honor the ceasefire yesterday when it launched missile and drone attacks around the Middle East. 

Pres. Trump has them back in a condition of not knowing when or what he might opt to do next because the two week window is now inoperative whether they realize it or not.  

US, Israel and the Gulf States are collecting signals and human intelligence that will inform what needs to be done next.

It's comical how little the press seems to learn by simply watching similar sequences of events unfold over time.
 

-ShipwreckedCrew - on X

Don't get me wrong. As a former Navy Diver who was directly involved in multiple activities supporting our SF's--among other hazardous duties--I'm all for an end to any conflict. But, just like many or most serving in this effort, I never wanted to leave any mission incomplete.

This appears incomplete.

I will also reiterate the impersonal nature of conflict nowadays with AI and drones cheapens human life, and makes it too easy for leaders to enter into deadly actions. If they believe minimal casualties will occur because of tech, it's way too easy to pull the trigger.

I subscribe to ShipwreckedCrew. He should stick to legal opinions. That's where his experience lies.

[Reagan]

4 hours ago, DCT said:

 No, it was Taco Day. He gave in to Iran's 10-point demands. Something in those demands made him take a serious look?

I don't believe that at all.  Too much theatrical posture throughout the weekend came out of Trumps pie hole.

 

of April 2026, the Trump administration proposed a 15-point ceasefire plan to Iran aimed at ending the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, delivered via Pakistan. The proposal, largely seen as a "maximum pressure" strategy, included demands for dismantling major nuclear sites, ending enrichment, curbing missile capabilities, and stopping support for regional proxies in exchange for lifting sanctions. 

Key components of the reported 15-point proposal by Trump include:

 

• Nuclear Restrictions: Iran must halt all uranium enrichment, destroy nuclear facilities (Natanz, Fordow), and turn over all enriched material to the IAEA.
• Military & Proxy Reductions: Limits on the range and quantity of Iran's ballistic missiles, alongside a full stop to support for regional armed groups.
• Regional Security: Reopening the Strait of Hormuz for shipping and ending strikes on regional energy infrastructure.
• Sanctions Relief: The U.S. offered to remove nuclear-related sanctions and allow for the potential reconstruction of Iranian infrastructure.
• Surveillance: Enhanced, intrusive IAEA monitoring of Iran's remaining nuclear infrastructure. 
   

The plan was rejected by Iran as "illogical" and "extremely ambitious," with Iranian officials describing the demands as excessive and a violation of sovereignty. Despite the public rejection, negotiations continued, with reports of an agreed temporary ceasefire to allow for discussions.

I hate to bust your bubble again but we can tell when you are plagiarizing!  

[Reagan]

 

This is a must!

[Boyz N Da Hood]

2 minutes ago, Reagan said:

 

This is a must!

And u call this winning? Sounds like taking L's and we're paying for it.. thanks cult

[Reagan]

8 minutes ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

And u call this winning? Sounds like taking L's and we're paying for it.. thanks cult

Explain!

[Boyz N Da Hood]

4 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Explain!

Get off X and come out here to the real world..! Nothing has changed, except prices. No one's listening to your master. Empty threats

Dudes a loser ⌛️...

But this is what u voted for.. "no new wars" hook line sinker

Please spare me the but but but D's talk. R 's have control so focus on that.. after Nov u can blame D's when they take control

[Boyz N Da Hood]

6 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Explain!

Now u explain how were winning 🍿🤡

[Porter]

 

[baddog]

1 hour ago, OlDawg said:

Don't get me wrong. As a former Navy Diver who was directly involved in multiple activities supporting our SF's--among other hazardous duties--I'm all for an end to any conflict. But, just like many or most serving in this effort, I never wanted to leave any mission incomplete.

This appears incomplete.

I will also reiterate the impersonal nature of conflict nowadays with AI and drones cheapens human life, and makes it too easy for leaders to enter into deadly actions. If they believe minimal casualties will occur because of tech, it's way too easy to pull the trigger.

I subscribe to ShipwreckedCrew. He should stick to legal opinions. That's where his experience lies.

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[Porter]

Am I correct in saying that Iran still controls the Strait of Hormuz? Am I missing something? 
 

Where’s the obliteration?
 

 

[Boyz N Da Hood]

3 minutes ago, Porter said:

Am I correct in saying that Iran still controls the Strait of Hormuz? Am I missing something? 
 

Where’s the obliteration?
 

 

Nothing changed other than they hate Americans that much more... "days away from a nuke" and they run with it

Hell there was already a peace deal.. we put armed forces in the way to only negotiate what we already had? Makes total sense

[OlDawg]

24 minutes ago, baddog said:

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I don’t know if that’s cool or scary. Getting more like Terminator every day. I saw a movie called ‘Monsters of Man’ a couple years ago. You should watch it. It’s free on Tubi right now I believe.