Tarkington is open/Jake Howard has been hired

[oldschool2]

38 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

So, what exactly have you shown? That “Onalaska has everything economically needed to be competitive”? Or that “median income is not a determining factor for success”?

There are 96 schools that made the state quarterfinals.  65 of those 96 schools have at least $60k average household incomes.

I also comprised a list of all of the 6A/5A/4A schools in the state, along with their respective household income, and their regular season record for the 2025 football season.  There are 166 schools that have an average household income of $60k or greater.  23.7% of those schools (40) had a winning record (6-4 or better).  There are 84 schools in the group with an average household income of less than $60k. 12% of those schools (10) had a winning record (6-4 or better).

I also went ahead and did a list of 3A schools.. just for fun.  Of the schools that had an average household income of $53k (low class in Tx) or more, 77.4% of them had a winning record (6-4 or better).  Of the schools that had an average income of less than $53k, 33.2% of them had a winning record (6-4 or better).

So.. even though there are other factors and exceptions.  6A/5A/4A schools that have an average household income of $60k or more have two times the statistical likelihood of having a winning season.  And 3AD1 schools with average household incomes of $53k or more have a 77% chance of a winning record, compare to a 33% chance of those that make less than $53k.

Again.. I know there are other details involved.  But.. I'm a numbers guy.  And these numbers tell a story.

[89Falcon]

1 hour ago, oldschool2 said:

There are 96 schools that made the state quarterfinals.  65 of those 96 schools have at least $60k average household incomes.

I also comprised a list of all of the 6A/5A/4A schools in the state, along with their respective household income, and their regular season record for the 2025 football season.  There are 166 schools that have an average household income of $60k or greater.  23.7% of those schools (40) had a winning record (6-4 or better).  There are 84 schools in the group with an average household income of less than $60k. 12% of those schools (10) had a winning record (6-4 or better).

I also went ahead and did a list of 3A schools.. just for fun.  Of the schools that had an average household income of $53k (low class in Tx) or more, 77.4% of them had a winning record (6-4 or better).  Of the schools that had an average income of less than $53k, 33.2% of them had a winning record (6-4 or better).

So.. even though there are other factors and exceptions.  6A/5A/4A schools that have an average household income of $60k or more have two times the statistical likelihood of having a winning season.  And 3AD1 schools with average household incomes of $53k or more have a 77% chance of a winning record, compare to a 33% chance of those that make less than $53k.

Again.. I know there are other details involved.  But.. I'm a numbers guy.  And these numbers tell a story.

Understood that you are a "numbers guy". You believe that a combined household income of $60k (two parent making 30k each) is significantly different than $50k (two parents making $25k each) and offers an athletic advantage. 

Also being a "numbers guy", you should know that no statistical conclusion can be made without simultaneously showing the numbers for all districts in Texas that did not make it to the semi-finals or without identifying how many districts are within each threshold. Example: What is the number of schools in Texas below $50k median income in Texas vs those $50-60k, above $60k.

Or, "how many schools in Texas are above/below whatever range you choose to consider". 

[oldschool2]

14 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

Understood that you are a "numbers guy". You believe that a combined household income of $60k (two parent making 30k each) is significantly different than $50k (two parents making $25k each) and offers an athletic advantage. 

Also being a "numbers guy", you should know that no statistical conclusion can be made without simultaneously showing the numbers for all districts in Texas that did not make it to the semi-finals or without identifying how many districts are within each threshold. Example: What is the number of schools in Texas below $50k median income in Texas vs those $50-60k, above $60k.

Or, "how many schools in Texas are above/below whatever range you choose to consider". 

I chose 60k and 53k respectively because the line between lower class and middle class in Texas is 53k.. according to a quick google search.  I figured the average income should be slightly higher (on average) in suburban/urban areas.  Which is why I chose 60k for the 6A/5A/4A marker.  Was I wrong in thinking that?  Use a different number if you want.  Use 70k.. or 80k.. or 100k.  Do you think the percentage of schools that have a successful football season will go up or down with the increase of that household income?

That was rhetorical.  Of the schools in a district/town with an average household income of 100k or more, 100% of them had a winning football season.  Every. Single. One. 

[89Falcon]

6 hours ago, oldschool2 said:

I chose 60k and 53k respectively because the line between lower class and middle class in Texas is 53k.. according to a quick google search.  I figured the average income should be slightly higher (on average) in suburban/urban areas.  Which is why I chose 60k for the 6A/5A/4A marker.  Was I wrong in thinking that?  Use a different number if you want.  Use 70k.. or 80k.. or 100k.  Do you think the percentage of schools that have a successful football season will go up or down with the increase of that household income?

That was rhetorical.  Of the schools in a district/town with an average household income of 100k or more, 100% of them had a winning football season.  Every. Single. One. 

Median household income in Texas is currently at $79k. You can draw no conclusions without a total number of districts in each income bracket. If there are 30 in one range and 50 in another range then you would expect to see more from the range with 50. 
 

A “numbers guy” should understand this beforehand. 
 

Also, does “every single one” mean: “not nearly all of them”? Exceeding poorly thought out comment. Grapevine, Katy Taylor, Flower Mound, Kingwood, VR Eaton, Northwest, on and on as far as you want to go.

[wo-s#1]

Not to get you two distracted but just know we all here to find who gets the last word and wins the battle of the know it alls!!

[89Falcon]

32 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

Not to get you two distracted but just know we all here to find who gets the last word and wins the battle of the know it alls!!

I am expecting him to concede very soon. Will be hard to continue with the recent trend. 

[BBtater984]

13 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

I am expecting him to concede very soon. Will be hard to continue with the recent trend. 

You are most definitely the type of person who has to get the last word... the kind of person who is not big enough to walk away without getting the last word. And if you don't get the last word, you stomp your feet while walking away. 

[wo-s#1]

56 minutes ago, BBtater984 said:

You are most definitely the type of person who has to get the last word... the kind of person who is not big enough to walk away without getting the last word. And if you don't get the last word, you stomp your feet while walking away. 

So is the other!

[BBtater984]

9 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

So is the other!

Not to the extent of this poster.

[89Falcon]

1 hour ago, BBtater984 said:

You are most definitely the type of person who has to get the last word... the kind of person who is not big enough to walk away without getting the last word. And if you don't get the last word, you stomp your feet while walking away. 

Thank you for the compliment. It means a lot to me. I take great pride in being the smartest contributor to this forum. 

[BBtater984]

28 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Thank you for the compliment. It means a lot to me. I take great pride in being the smartest contributor to this forum. 

That statement, sarcastic as it may be, proves my point and what everyone is thinking.

The loudest person in the room is usually the person with the least to say.