The Save Act

[TheMissingBand]

9 minutes ago, baddog said:

Is there anyone on here who has ever had a problem voting due to ID verification? That’s what I thought. So it’s been this way for years, now it’s a problem. Why? Can you still vote? Why the concern for anyone else? Have they had trouble voting? Nope. Some of you like to argue a stupid point when it really has no effect on anyone. You’ve always been selfish and never cared for anyone before now, why mess with your record? If you care about illegals voting then you’re not an American….plain and simple.

Okay…. Here’s the scenario.  The save act passes and you don’t really care. You’re an American and you’ve been voting for years.  You show up to vote and they tell you that you can’t because you’re not registered. And it’s too late to register for this election.  Are you happy?

Same scenario, except you realize that you’ll need to re-register in person at least 30 days prior to the election. No worries. You show up at the voter registrar and they let you know that you’ll need to prove citizenship… and your TX DL doesn’t prove citizenship.  You’ll need a birth certificate or passport. So you and the Mrs head off to vital statistics to buy a copy of your birth certificates at $10 apiece.  When you get back to the voter registrar, you’re good to go.  Except Mrs Baddog’s license doesn’t match the birth certificate that shows her maiden name. So she has to go to the county clerk to buy a copy of her marriage license that shows her receiving the Baddog Surname. Return to the voter registrar only to find that the marriage license doesn’t have her maiden name, but instead has the last name of her first husband, whose name she kept because it’s the same name as your stepchildren. So she has to find a marriage license and divorce decree that will document those name changes at substantial cost of time and money. By now she’s missed the window to register and can’t vote, even though you can. Are you happy?

 

Repeat after me… proving citizenship isn’t the same thing as producing your ID. Can you find your birth certificate before you register to vote next time?

 

[HangPDFs]

21 minutes ago, baddog said:

Is there anyone on here who has ever had a problem voting due to ID verification? That’s what I thought. So it’s been this way for years, now it’s a problem. Why? Can you still vote? Why the concern for anyone else? Have they had trouble voting? Nope. Some of you like to argue a stupid point when it really has no effect on anyone. You’ve always been selfish and never cared for anyone before now, why mess with your record? If you care about illegals voting then you’re not an American….plain and simple.

Lets undo the 2024 election since it was rigged 

[TheMissingBand]

7 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Anyone who has had to get a new Driver's License in the last few years had to show either a birth certificate, or a passport. You had to have proof of citizenship to get a new license with Real ID.

Yes… and this will be harder than what you dealt with at the dmv.  
 

Why are you okay with the federal government taking away the right to vote as afforded in the constitution?

[TheMissingBand]

7 minutes ago, HangPDFs said:

Lets undo the 2024 election since it was rigged 

It’s only rigged when they lose.  

[baddog]

1 hour ago, TheMissingBand said:

Okay…. Here’s the scenario.  The save act passes and you don’t really care. You’re an American and you’ve been voting for years.  You show up to vote and they tell you that you can’t because you’re not registered. And it’s too late to register for this election.  Are you happy?

Same scenario, except you realize that you’ll need to re-register in person at least 30 days prior to the election. No worries. You show up at the voter registrar and they let you know that you’ll need to prove citizenship… and your TX DL doesn’t prove citizenship.  You’ll need a birth certificate or passport. So you and the Mrs head off to vital statistics to buy a copy of your birth certificates at $10 apiece.  When you get back to the voter registrar, you’re good to go.  Except Mrs Baddog’s license doesn’t match the birth certificate that shows her maiden name. So she has to go to the county clerk to buy a copy of her marriage license that shows her receiving the Baddog Surname. Return to the voter registrar only to find that the marriage license doesn’t have her maiden name, but instead has the last name of her first husband, whose name she kept because it’s the same name as your stepchildren. So she has to find a marriage license and divorce decree that will document those name changes at substantial cost of time and money. By now she’s missed the window to register and can’t vote, even though you can. Are you happy?

 

Repeat after me… proving citizenship isn’t the same thing as producing your ID. Can you find your birth certificate before you register to vote next time?

 

CB, it’s been years, ten I think, but when my TEXAS license was up for renewal, I had to provide my birth certificate and SS card to renew. If I remember correctly, it’s why the little star is now on my license. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my license was scanned when I voted. It ensures that I am who the license says. Gee, I thought my white privilege would allow me to bypass this inconvenience. Lol. It’s called a real ID and everybody has to do it.

[baddog]

13 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Anyone who has had to get a new Driver's License in the last few years had to show a birth certificate, social security card, and/or a passport. You had to have proof of citizenship to get a new license with Real ID. Since--as I understand it--the States will still set the rules for acceptable citizenship verification, any Texas resident with a driver's license after 2016 should be in the Real ID system in Texas verifying their citizenship. Maybe, Texas will allow that to suffice. I haven't heard a definitive one way or the other yet since the Act hasn't even passed.

Sorry, I didn’t see your post.

[OlDawg]

10 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

Yes… and this will be harder than what you dealt with at the dmv.  
 

Why are you okay with the federal government taking away the right to vote as afforded in the constitution?

Read my edit. Then, I'll respond if I need to. Besides, where in the Constitution are you guaranteed the right to vote? Please point it out to me.

[OlDawg]

4 minutes ago, baddog said:

Sorry, I didn’t see your post.

No problem. I was editing still anyway.

[OlDawg]

Some of y'all really need to brush up on the Constitution. 

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, OlDawg said:

Some of y'all really need to brush up on the Constitution. 

You can say that again…..

We have people of all ages, races, and income levels change their name all the time.  70% on the low end agree with voter ID.  We happen to be talking to the 30% that thinks a majority of people are dumb, and apparently mostly women.  It appears that of my two marriages, I pick some smart ones, because they were able to navigate that all by themselves…..

I just double checked, you can order your birth certificate online, you don’t even have to leave your house…..

[UT alum]

2 hours ago, Porter said:

Working a poll has nothing to do with Americans wanting legal citizens to show proof that they are eligible to vote. You are making this way more complicated than it should be. 

No, I’m not. I worked elections as a judge for 30 years the system is safe, impossible to rig on any significant scale that matters. One person, one vote. Since improperly registered voters  are a statistical anomaly, efforts to “stop” something that doesn’t exist results in making it more difficult for people who want to exercise their constitutional duty to do so. ALL AUTHORITARIAN POLITICAL SYSTEMS TRY TO MAKE VOTING MORE DIFFICULT. We are headed for the end of freedom if this keeps up. Keep parroting this mess at your peril.

[UT alum]

34 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

You can say that again…..

We have people of all ages, races, and income levels change their name all the time.  70% on the low end agree with voter ID.  We happen to be talking to the 30% that thinks a majority of people are dumb, and apparently mostly women.  It appears that of my two marriages, I pick some smart ones, because they were able to navigate that all by themselves…..

I just double checked, you can order your birth certificate online, you don’t even have to leave your house…..

Well, I had to do it real time and it took a trip to Harris County. That online crap is how an alien could work the system. 

[OlDawg]

12 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Well, I had to do it real time and it took a trip to Harris County. That online crap is how an alien could work the system. 

Harris County is definitely a pain. Had to go downtown to fix a title issue when the local annex messed me up. Was adding rights of survivorship where I could add a beneficiary to my autos. (Avoiding probate for my son on vehicles that are worth less than probate costs.)

Coordinating between Harris County, TDMV, and the Feds new vehicle ID system was a nightmare.

[thetragichippy]

36 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Well, I had to do it real time and it took a trip to Harris County. That online crap is how an alien could work the system. 

I had to get a copy of my Son’s BC for something to do with sports, and I went to DT beaumont and it took 30 minutes.  It was easier than getting my DL renewed when I couldn’t do it online

[Porter]

34 minutes ago, UT alum said:

No, I’m not. I worked elections as a judge for 30 years the system is safe, impossible to rig on any significant scale that matters. One person, one vote. Since improperly registered voters  are a statistical anomaly, efforts to “stop” something that doesn’t exist results in making it more difficult for people who want to exercise their constitutional duty to do so. ALL AUTHORITARIAN POLITICAL SYSTEMS TRY TO MAKE VOTING MORE DIFFICULT. We are headed for the end of freedom if this keeps up. Keep parroting this mess at your peril.

We have the most ridiculous corrupt voting system in the world and it’s not even close. It has literally turn into a voting season with all the time that is allotted to vote much less the piss poor verification process. It’s almost to the point of being theater when it’s time to vote. You keep believing your nonsense when it comes to fair elections. I promise you that you will never convince me so don’t waste your time. 

[OlDawg]

15 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I had to get a copy of my Son’s BC for something to do with sports, and I went to DT beaumont and it took 30 minutes.  It was easier than getting my DL renewed when I couldn’t do it online

Hopefully, Harris County will get back to where it was under Emmett. That was about as efficient as any sizable government entity I’ve experienced. It would be nice if Hidalgo either left early, or was given the boot, since she’s not running again anyway.

[Porter]

57 minutes ago, UT alum said:

No, I’m not. I worked elections as a judge for 30 years the system is safe, impossible to rig on any significant scale that matters. One person, one vote. Since improperly registered voters  are a statistical anomaly, efforts to “stop” something that doesn’t exist results in making it more difficult for people who want to exercise their constitutional duty to do so. ALL AUTHORITARIAN POLITICAL SYSTEMS TRY TO MAKE VOTING MORE DIFFICULT. We are headed for the end of freedom if this keeps up. Keep parroting this mess at your peril.

Corrupt as all get out. Stuff like this happens all over our country. It’s ridiculous!!

 

[baddog]

4 minutes ago, Porter said:

Corrupt as all get out. Stuff like this happens all over our country. It’s ridiculous!!

 

It’s why almost all the big cities in the country are blue.

[Porter]

6 minutes ago, baddog said:

It’s why almost all the big cities in the country are blue.

Yep and the NGO’s fund this nonsense. Of course when I say NGO’s I mean the taxpayers fund it. Our government is nothing more than money laundering organization. This is why we are almost bankrupt and all our politicians do is sit around and talk about it. I already had a suspicion of this but listen to this clip. 14 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!

 

[OlDawg]

51 minutes ago, Porter said:

Yep and the NGO’s fund this nonsense. Of course when I say NGO’s I mean the taxpayers fund it. Our government is nothing more than money laundering organization. This is why we are almost bankrupt and all our politicians do is sit around and talk about it. I already had a suspicion of this but listen to this clip. 14 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!

 

And people ask me why I'm a libertarian. lol

Somehow--as I've said on this forum so many times I've lost count--our government has moved from it's core purposes to being nothing more than a wealth redistribution system built on a Ponzi scheme. The solution is to shrink the size and scope of the Fed as our framers intended. Get back as close as possible to enumerated powers.

Dreaming, I know. But, one can dream.

[Porter]

17 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

And people ask me why I'm a libertarian. lol

Somehow--as I've said on this forum so many times I've lost count--our government has moved from it's core purposes to being nothing more than a wealth redistribution system built on a Ponzi scheme. The solution is to shrink the size and scope of the Fed as our framers intended. Get back as close as possible to enumerated powers.

Dreaming, I know. But, one can dream.

Yep