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4 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

No, the definition does not change daily, media reports it and twist words….

Like the military didn’t think Iran would try and block the Strait……

If my Son or Step daughter wanted to join the military, it would have been discussed in great detail the pro’s and con’s. Being deployed to a battle would have been the first subject in that discussion.  They would have known the risk and I would support them. I wouldn’t like it but I would support them. 
 

 

So is it a war or a operation?

Posted
11 minutes ago, Porter said:

Just curious would you send your daughter or son over to the Iran War or Operation?

One last thing, if you have kids you know that a good parent would never want their Son or Daughter killed in combat or in general. My Father used to tell me his love was unconditional. I told him I understood. The truth is I didn’t really didn’t understand until I had my Son. I would give my life to save his. So, I would “not send” my Son to any war

Posted
7 minutes ago, baddog said:

You should have voted for Kamala. All she knows is that Iran is a big country, kinda like Ukraine. You’d have Iranians up the keister, kinda like Dearborn. You voted for Trump 3 times. Let him do his job.

I can start talking down to you if you would like but I will take the high road. Just because I voted for him 3 times doesn’t mean I can’t be critical of his performance up to this point. Sorry it bothers you.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Porter said:

So is it a war or a operation?

In the context of your question I could use operation or war. They both are about the same when it comes to lives lost.we can debate wording, but does it matter? 

Posted
15 minutes ago, baddog said:

You should have voted for Kamala. All she knows is that Iran is a big country, kinda like Ukraine. You’d have Iranians up the keister, kinda like Dearborn. You voted for Trump 3 times. Let him do his job.

Being a little harsh don’t ya think?

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Porter said:

I can start talking down to you if you would like but I will take the high road. Just because I voted for him 3 times doesn’t mean I can’t be critical of his performance up to this point. Sorry it bothers you.

You’ve been “talking down” to the “Trump crowd” for a while now. Trump hasn’t changed. I only wonder why some are gluttons for punishment.

Posted
4 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

In the context of your question I could use operation or war. They both are about the same when it comes to lives lost.we can debate wording, but does it matter? 

Politically it’s more palatable to call it an operation but Trump called it a war on one of his TruthSocial post yesterday so we’ll call it a war now. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, baddog said:

You’ve been “talking down” to the “Trump crowd” for a while now. Trump hasn’t changed. I only wonder why some are gluttons for punishment.

I beg to differ imo I believe Trump didn’t go with his instincts on this Iran situation. Trump makes his decisions based on information given to him and I don’t believe he’s surrounded himself with people that has his or the country’s best interest. 
 

Do you think the powers that be just stop trying to take him down? I say they’re still trying to sabotage him but at the end of the day he’s the president who makes the big decisions. 
 

If the Trump crowd is someone who is NEVER CRITICAL OF HIM THEN I GUESS I AM GUILTY. No president has ever been so perfect that he makes all the right decisions to never be criticized. That’s a cult follower not a well informed voter. 

Posted
14 minutes ago, Porter said:

 
 

If the Trump crowd is someone who is NEVER CRITICAL OF HIM THEN I GUESS I AM GUILTY. No president has ever been so perfect that he makes all the right decisions to never be criticized. That’s a cult follower not a well informed voter. 


The low information voters tell themselves “well it’s part of the plan” to cope with the fact that there is never a plan with this administration. They’re in a cult and they can’t turn back now 

Posted
5 minutes ago, HangPDFs said:


The low information voters tell themselves “well it’s part of the plan” to cope with the fact that there is never a plan with this administration. They’re in a cult and they can’t turn back now 

This is not the same Trump we had in his first term imo. 

Posted
27 minutes ago, Porter said:

This is not the same Trump we had in his first term imo. 

That’s fair. Guy in office now is clearly very past his prime and needs to be senior housing asap

Posted
1 hour ago, Porter said:

This is not the same Trump we had in his first term imo. 

Just wait and see how it looks when we’re trying to decide who the next President will be… do you think can sit back and let the voters decide? Do you think he’ll wait until the primaries are over to endorse somebody? Especially how he’s trying to pick the senator from Texas in real time. 
 

I’ve got a bad feeling that the second half of this term will be craziness like we’ve never seen before. 

Posted

Harry S. Truman is generally considered the best U.S. president who was profoundly unpopular and unliked while in office. While often ranked in the top 10 by historians today, Truman left office in 1953 with some of the lowest approval ratings in history
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Reddit +1
Here is a breakdown of why Truman, along with others, fits this description:
 
1. Harry S. Truman (President 1945–1953) 
  • Why he was unliked: Truman faced a challenging post-war economy, a stalemate in the Korean War (which many dubbed "Truman's war"), and corruption scandals within his administration. In February 1952, his Gallup poll approval rating fell to 22%, lower than Nixon's rating during Watergate.
  • Why he is considered great: Historians now praise him for laying the foundations for winning the Cold War, implementing the Marshall Plan, and navigating the integration of the Armed Forces. 
    VOA - Voice of America English News +3
 
2. Abraham Lincoln (President 1861–1865) 
  • Why he was unliked: Lincoln was arguably the most unpopular president at the time of his inauguration and throughout the Civil War. Northern newspapers often called him a "simple Susan" and a weakling, and many considered his early military decisions a failure. In February 1863, it was reported that he had no "personal loyalty" to him in Washington.
  • Why he is considered great: He preserved the Union and abolished slavery, and his popularity only surged after his assassination. 
    American Battlefield Trust +1
 
3. Jimmy Carter (President 1977–1981)
  • Why he was unliked: Carter was viewed as incompetent during his term, particularly regarding the Iran Hostage Crisis, high inflation, and economic downturn.
  • Why he is considered great: While his presidency was considered a failure by many at the time, his post-presidency humanitarian work has made him one of the most respected former presidents, turning him into a "good" historical figure. 
    Reddit +1
 
4. Ulysses S. Grant (President 1869–1877)
  • Why he was unliked: Although popular at first, Grant's presidency was marred by the Panic of 1873 (a massive economic downturn) and extensive corruption scandals.
  • Why he is considered great: Modern historians have elevated Grant, recognizing his strong efforts to protect freed slaves, fight the Ku Klux Klan, and expand civil rights in the South. 
    Hungarian Conservative
Posted
1 hour ago, Porter said:

This is not the same Trump we had in his first term imo. 

He keeps rumbling about 2020.  He will not let up.  Biden is imbedded in his brain rent free. 

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