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2 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

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From the article:

The head of the Minneapolis teachers union said in a recent interview that elected officials are involved in anti-ICE agitation in the city.

One of the comments:

slinkysue22

The Teacher's Unions are leading the largest Socialist movement in American history. Wokeness is here whether MAGAS like it or not. We teachers bring Equity wherever we go.

Stats:

80% of K-12 teachers are white females, with almost 60% between the ages of 30-40, and over 71% identify as liberals and registered Democratic voters.

There’s the problem.

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On 2/2/2026 at 4:34 PM, OlDawg said:

One of the comments:

slinkysue22

The Teacher's Unions are leading the largest Socialist movement in American history. Wokeness is here whether MAGAS like it or not. We teachers bring Equity wherever we go.

Stats:

80% of K-12 teachers are white females, with almost 60% between the ages of 30-40, and over 71% identify as liberals and registered Democratic voters.

There’s the problem.

So gender and ideology should be part of hiring criteria? That sounds WOKE  in reverse to me. Actually, it’s just pitifully prejudiced.

Posted
37 minutes ago, UT alum said:

So gender and ideology should be part of hiring criteria? That sounds WOKE  in reverse to me. Actually, it’s just pitifully prejudiced.

How many genders are there?

Posted
1 hour ago, baddog said:

How many genders are there?

Two. OlDawg said the problem is that 80% of teachers are women, 71% liberal registered Democrats. So, that implies the system needs more conservative registered Republican men to alleviate the problem. You get it now?

Posted
1 minute ago, UT alum said:

Two. OlDawg said the problem is that 80% of teachers are women, 71% liberal registered Democrats. So, that implies the system needs more conservative registered Republican men to alleviate the problem. You get it now?

 

Check this idiot school board lady out.  She talks in hesitations like she's in a play.  She doesn't want her free speech denied but she wants to deny it for everyone else!  Full mental illness on display for all to see!

Posted
8 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Two. OlDawg said the problem is that 80% of teachers are women, 71% liberal registered Democrats. So, that implies the system needs more conservative registered Republican men to alleviate the problem. You get it now?

No, I just wanted to hear a liberal get the number correct. Most of my teachers were women throughout school. I didn’t have a male teacher until 6th grade. They were still sporadic after that. We were just not indoctrinated and were taught the 3 Rs. So for me, the problem is not women as much as it is liberal/wokeism tactics. Of course, since I am bucking the system, that makes me a homegrown terrorist.

Posted
2 hours ago, UT alum said:

Two. OlDawg said the problem is that 80% of teachers are women, 71% liberal registered Democrats. So, that implies the system needs more conservative registered Republican men to alleviate the problem. You get it now?

You are correct. I actually said ‘white females’. The teaching profession needs more diversification according to multiple studies.

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Just a couple. There are multiple more citing similar stats & conclusions. Some speak more about gender and sex.

I’m a data-driven person. It’s not me being…what did you call me “prejudiced”?

Your best bet is to probably argue/debate with someone more emotionally inclined like yourself. Not a slam. Just pointing out an argument type. My style will probably come across as crass and uncaring to you.

Not sure why I missed posting data the first time. I always try to post it. Just must have missed linking it.


 

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1 hour ago, OlDawg said:

You are correct. I actually said ‘white females’. The teaching profession needs more diversification according to multiple studies.

This is the hidden content, please

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Just a couple. There are multiple more citing similar stats & conclusions. Some speak more about gender and sex.

I’m a data-driven person. It’s not me being…what did you call me “prejudiced”?

Your best bet is to probably argue/debate with someone more emotionally inclined like yourself. Not a slam. Just pointing out an argument type. My style will probably come across as crass and uncaring to you.

Not sure why I missed posting data the first time. I always try to post it. Just must have missed linking it.


 

Not at all. I keep forgetting you are Libertarian. The most dispassionate of the political affiliations, and that’s no slam. You must admit that posting without the data looked prejudiced. 

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56 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Not at all. I keep forgetting you are Libertarian. The most dispassionate of the political affiliations, and that’s no slam. You must admit that posting without the data looked prejudiced. 

Yes. I can see how you would think it was strictly opinion. I’m not Libertarian as in the Party. Although, I do hold many of the beliefs. You’re also correct I don’t get as passionate. I like to tell people I look at policy instead of politics. Most times I can do that. Although, sometimes I get into the politics also. I won’t lie. I try to catch myself.

Personally, I think we could use a few more fiscally conservative libertarians nowadays.

Posted
2 hours ago, UT alum said:

Not at all. I keep forgetting you are Libertarian. The most dispassionate of the political affiliations, and that’s no slam. You must admit that posting without the data looked prejudiced. 

@UT alum

The link is a fairly adequate description of my thoughts. As with anyone, some of my beliefs vary slightly. I’m not a fan of the tariffs, and I think Rep’s are spending like drunken sailors as bad as the Dem’s. Just on different things.

Due to personal experience, I’m slightly more inclined to involve pseudo military/military interventions on special occasions and for special circumstances. I also believe in border control and strictly legal immigration until we do away with the welfare state. (Which will probably never happen.) Same token, I abhor the Patriot Act with a passion. So, it’s a mixed bag on certain national security issues.

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28 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

@UT alum

The link is a fairly adequate description of my thoughts. As with anyone, some of my beliefs vary slightly. I’m not a fan of the tariffs. Due to personal experience, I’m slightly more inclined to involve pseudo military/military interventions on special occasions and for special circumstances. I also believe in border control and strictly legal immigration until we do away with the welfare state. (Which will probably never happen.) Same token, I abhor the Patriot Act with a passion. So, it’s a mixed bag on certain national security issues.

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We’re not too far apart, but the difference is a big one - concerning the welfare state and inequitable distribution of wealth. Does your inclination towards paramilitary operations include use on American soil? If so, how do you square that with abhorrence of the Patriot Act? 

Posted
3 minutes ago, UT alum said:

We’re not too far apart, but the difference is a big one - concerning the welfare state and inequitable distribution of wealth. Does your inclination towards paramilitary operations include use on American soil? If so, how do you square that with abhorrence of the Patriot Act? 

Our military is not keen on being used on the homeland. I can also tell you that from experience. I am not keen on them being used. They are serving for a different purpose.

Correct again. We will never agree on the welfare state. To me, the welfare state is a mechanism to take away liberty, and provide for subservience. Not to provide liberty.

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16 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Our military is not keen on being used on the homeland. I can also tell you that from experience. I am not keen on them being used. They are serving for a different purpose.

Correct again. We will never agree on the welfare state. To me, the welfare state is a mechanism to take away liberty, and provide for subservience. Not to provide liberty.

Capitalism can’t exist without creating a segment of the population that is unemployable. The greater the inequity in wealth, the larger that segment becomes. If a family with two adults working still can’t afford basic housing, transportation, food and clothing costs, you see no obligation of the group as a whole to assist? I agree that the system is out of control at this time, but that does not negate the principle.  When the average difference between line worker and CEO wages was 20/1 in favor of the executive, the middle class was doing a heck of a lot better. I like this article in Forbes which lays responsibility on the corporation to fix this inadequacy rather than the state. Regulation exists primarily because of greed. Show me how to reduce the debilitating effect of corporate greed on the middle class without laws, and I’m all in.

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48 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Capitalism can’t exist without creating a segment of the population that is unemployable. The greater the inequity in wealth, the larger that segment becomes. If a family with two adults working still can’t afford basic housing, transportation, food and clothing costs, you see no obligation of the group as a whole to assist? I agree that the system is out of control at this time, but that does not negate the principle.  When the average difference between line worker and CEO wages was 20/1 in favor of the executive, the middle class was doing a heck of a lot better. I like this article in Forbes which lays responsibility on the corporation to fix this inadequacy rather than the state. Regulation exists primarily because of greed. Show me how to reduce the debilitating effect of corporate greed on the middle class without laws, and I’m all in.

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I only skimmed the article. I’ll have to read it fully later tomorrow. Generally, Fortune has some good articles. So, I’m interested.

As far as your initial sentence, I disagree with your premise.

Instead of regulating high performers, I suggest re-emphasizing technical skills over liberal degree programs that provide for more indoctrination than education. If you truly believe in equality (not equity) as I do, you are forced to believe that everyone is capable of learning a technical skill. I’m a big proponent of technical skill programs. Whether these skills are learned through military service, or other training programs that provide real world skills is irrelevant to me. (Although, I wouldn’t be against a minimum 2 year service requirement for all after high school graduation that would provide income, service to the whole, and training for needed skills. A little patriotism wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing either.)

From the initial scan of the article, the data suggests a timeframe that correlates to when technical skills were the mainstay of the middle class, and provided a livable wage. This compensation for skill still remains, and is actually higher today because of a severe shortage.

The key isn’t regulation. It’s the correct education. That isn’t impacted by CEO compensation. I don’t believe a law is needed to limit someone’s individual earning power they have gained through their efforts. That stymies. Instead of trying to hold someone back, find the way to bring the others up. Retool our educational priorities.

Personally, I grew up poor on a farm where my family went bankrupt before farmers were paid NOT to grow stuff. My dad worked his tail off and paid back every dime. He was that sort of man. I served in the military, served the government in some other related functions off book, ended that affiliation, and went to work in Operations at a petrochemical facility. During that time, I completed a Design Degree, and then Engineering. I did this later in life while married with a son. It can be done.

I’ve been retired and able to live off of investments and savings for ten years. I firmly believe it really is all in how you apply yourself, and what’s important to you.

No corporate greed affected my status.

 

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7 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

I only skimmed the article. I’ll have to read it fully later tomorrow. Generally, Fortune has some good articles. So, I’m interested.

As far as your initial sentence, I disagree with your premise.

Instead of regulating high performers, I suggest re-emphasizing technical skills over liberal degree programs that provide for more indoctrination than education. If you truly believe in equality (not equity) as I do, you are forced to believe that everyone is capable of learning a technical skill. I’m a big proponent of technical skill programs. Whether these skills are learned through military service, or other training programs that provide real world skills is irrelevant to me. (Although, I wouldn’t be against a minimum 2 year service requirement for all after high school graduation that would provide income, service to the whole, and training for needed skills.)

From the initial scan of the article, the data suggests a timeframe that correlates to when technical skills were the mainstay of the middle class, and provided a livable wage. This compensation for skill still remains, and is actually higher today because of a severe shortage.

The key isn’t regulation. It’s the correct education. That isn’t impacted by CEO compensation. I don’t believe a law is needed to limit someone’s individual earning power they have gained through their efforts. That stymies. Instead of trying to hold someone back, find the way to bring the others up. Retool our educational priorities.

 

I got a story about that. In 1984 I was named to represent Hardin County on the Southeast Texas Workforce Development Board. It is responsible for distributing federal workforce training dollars in the three county region here. Reagan’s retooling of the old CETA program. I served until 2019. As time went on, corporate America became more and more involved indirectly with public education curriculum. Basic skills, they said. Since then, education has gotten more and more “basic”. More science and math, less English, history, and social studies. Also escalating over that time was the complaint that public education wasn’t cranking out kids who could do much of anything and as always blamed parents, drugs, video games, music, etc. to keep our eye off reality. A “liberal” education in the technical sense creates a well rounded individual with effective critical thinking skills. We quit doing that. People with poor critical thinking skills are more malleable and less capable of focus outside the basic skills they were taught. Training went from Apprenticeship programs to ITC and other training facilities funded by employers. Again, criticism about the “unpreparedness” and indifference of the workforce continued. It hasn’t worked. If anything it has made people more inclined to be told what to think rather than possess the curiosity and critical thinking skills to evaluate current events for themselves. It just ain’t that simple. “Train them and they will come” is not all it’s cracked up to be. Educate them and they will be sought.

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