Warren is OPEN

[myrecordwashorrible]

14 minutes ago, Setx fan said:

OK so compare it to Kirbyville 

68 score for Kirbyville.  1 point better. 

FWIW, I am simply being a smart butt.  Wish all the schools in the entire setx area had no school below B. 

[Setx fan]

9 minutes ago, myrecordwashorrible said:

68 score for Kirbyville.  1 point better. 

FWIW, I am simply being a smart butt.  Wish all the schools in the entire setx area had no school below B. 

Yea but thanks. I did some research and it definitely looks like Woodville's overall academic performance has significantly dropped in recent years. I didn't realize it was getting that bad 

[whsalum]

If you look to the South the Kountze school district won some state championships last year in basketball. Look to the north and Woodville was in the state football championship. The biggest common denominator between these two are large housing complex's. Warren has none, these rural folks put their heart and soul into their Ag program. Not that there's anything wrong with that but it's the difference between winning and losing athletics programs. 

[purpleeagle]

Just might be some of these fan coaches are not too far off with the Woodville football program. You might want to look at Woodville's sub varsity scores. Being  a large 3A2 team they should have better sub varsity teams. Same goes for Warren. It all starts down there. Example— Newton Jv 50 Woodville 0.

[Setx fan]

38 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:

Just might be some of these fan coaches are not too far off with the Woodville football program. You might want to look at Woodville's sub varsity scores. Being  a large 3A2 team they should have better sub varsity teams. Same goes for Warren. It all starts down there. Example— Newton Jv 50 Woodville 0.

"Fan coaches" got nothing to do with that. 

[purpleeagle]

41 minutes ago, Setx fan said:

"Fan coaches" got nothing to do with that. 

They are saying that the football coaches are not developing  the players . 

[TC2020]

3 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

Just might be some of these fan coaches are not too far off with the Woodville football program. You might want to look at Woodville's sub varsity scores. Being  a large 3A2 team they should have better sub varsity teams. Same goes for Warren. It all starts down there. Example— Newton Jv 50 Woodville 0.

Yes and no. At the small school level, the really good Freshmen and Sophomores play on Varsity. Stark difference than larger schools. 

[89Falcon]

1 hour ago, TC2020 said:

Yes and no. At the small school level, the really good Freshmen and Sophomores play on Varsity. Stark difference than larger schools. 

Not at WV. They had a QB with D1 offers playing JV. 

[oldeagle]

On 1/31/2026 at 3:54 PM, whsalum said:

If you look to the South the Kountze school district won some state championships last year in basketball. Look to the north and Woodville was in the state football championship. The biggest common denominator between these two are large housing complex's. Warren has none, these rural folks put their heart and soul into their Ag program. Not that there's anything wrong with that but it's the difference between winning and losing athletics programs. 

3-A D-II Champs (housing projects do not equal state championships).  Champions are actually trending to non- Title I schools  

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[Setx fan]

19 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

They are saying that the football coaches are not developing  the players . 

OK I misunderstood what you were saying. Coaches can't seem to get the best out of all the players though. Lot of guys didn't play up to their potential. Partially because some weren't being put on the field. Defense was just horrible the majority of the year. Offense was pretty good as expected but it was questionable at times also. Critical play near the goal line against Edgewood and we hand it up the middle to a hundred pound sophomore (very talented but still young) instead of giving it to our senior 230 pound returning offensive player of the year who scored the game winning TD in the state semi finals the year before. That play ended up being ruled a fumble when that probably could have been avoided. I was very confused about that 

[88Warrior]

On 1/31/2026 at 2:34 PM, Setx fan said:

Not too bad considering Woodville has the bigger classrooms of these schools. Kids are able to learn better in smaller classrooms but I'm pretty sure Woodville is above average compared to other schools it's size. All the Tyler County schools are decent though 

Woodville reported a whopping 20 more kids than Warren…Classroom size isn’t the issue…

[Setx fan]

Just now, 88Warrior said:

Woodville reported a whopping 20 more kids than Warren…Classroom size isn’t the issue…

Your probably right 

[89Falcon]

3 hours ago, Setx fan said:

OK I misunderstood what you were saying. Coaches can't seem to get the best out of all the players though. Lot of guys didn't play up to their potential. Partially because some weren't being put on the field. Defense was just horrible the majority of the year. Offense was pretty good as expected but it was questionable at times also. Critical play near the goal line against Edgewood and we hand it up the middle to a hundred pound sophomore (very talented but still young) instead of giving it to our senior 230 pound returning offensive player of the year who scored the game winning TD in the state semi finals the year before. That play ended up being ruled a fumble when that probably could have been avoided. I was very confused about that 

Only explanation is WV coaches just wanted to lose. They clearly didn’t know the players. Despite seeing how they practiced, behaved in the locker room or at school.
 

The people who really know are the folks who saw none of that but coached them in little league or sat in the stands.

[purpleeagle]

On 2/1/2026 at 5:37 PM, TC2020 said:

Yes and no. At the small school level, the really good Freshmen and Sophomores play on Varsity. Stark difference than larger schools. 

Woodville has 81 more kids in high school than Newton. When Newton run that many kids we had a sophomore team also. You have to get these kids on the field and playing and being coached. I sat in on a before season coaching meeting where all the coaches from Newton agreed what position and level each player should play at. One thing I noticed that they would not move a kid up unless he was good enough to play. A kid sitting on the bench is a waste. Nothing like experience.

[purpleeagle]

2 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:

Woodville has 81 more kids in high school than Newton. When Newton run that many kids we had a sophomore team also. You have to get these kids on the field and playing and being coached. I sat in on a before season coaching meeting where all the coaches from Newton agreed what position and level each player should play at. One thing I noticed that they would not move a kid up unless he was good enough to play. A kid sitting on the bench is a waste. Nothing like experience.

Newton started a 9th grader at QB this year. He finished with a QB rating of 142.2.

[whsalum]

22 hours ago, oldeagle said:

3-A D-II Champs (housing projects do not equal state championships).  Champions are actually trending to non- Title I schools  

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I didn't say anything about a state championship. I said they would have a winning program 

[TC2020]

13 hours ago, whsalum said:

I didn't say anything about a state championship. I said they would have a winning program 

Huge misconception here.  Statistically, upper end communities win more than lower economic communities.  Obviously, there are big time exceptions - but if we are judging on housing projects, this fact can't be ignored.  In the case of Warren, they might not have projects, but just drive through town and you will not see very nice houses...

[whsalum]

1 hour ago, TC2020 said:

Huge misconception here.  Statistically, upper end communities win more than lower economic communities.  Obviously, there are big time exceptions - but if we are judging on housing projects, this fact can't be ignored.  In the case of Warren, they might not have projects, but just drive through town and you will not see very nice houses...

If you drive through Warren you won't see many houses at all. Warrens population is 99.9% rural. Again these folks have chosen over the years to develop an Ag program. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that but it doesn't help the athletic programs succeed. Warren has had some tremendous coaches over the years, that's not the problem.