Government Shutdown

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, DCT said:

 Never thought I’d see so many MAGA happy to see people loose there jobs placed on unemployment.  
This is all apart of the great economy and the Big Beautiful bill.  Even the farmers who voted for him are complaining.

Federal workers are a drain on the economy. Not an adder.

[OlDawg]

2 minutes ago, baddog said:

I’m not so much against it, but it screwed up everyone else’s insurance. I’ve paid all my life to get where I am. I have always stood on my own legs. Thank you.

Company or private insurance…..$3000-$5000 deductibles will never be met unless hospital stays are involved. Taking family for yearly checkups, one would be better off without insurance. My stance is still correct. People who tout it aren’t even on it.

My wife meets her OOP every year just due to injections and medicine to try to slow her progressive palsy, and helping keep her from choking on her food and asphyxiating herself, or contracting pneumonia and dying. Her OOP is $3600.

You really don’t know until you’re in someone else’s shoes.

I’m a less government guy. But, when they take away choices to push an agenda, you deal with it as you can.

ACA had no bearing on your Medicare.

[LumRaiderFan]

15 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

The people against it are either on true socialized medicine (Medicare, Medicaid) or employer based. You gripe about it, but you’re on socialized care with Medicare. You have no leg to stand on.

Sorry.

If you were over 60–but not yet 65–retired (either through choice or not), and needed insurance due to health reasons, you’d sing a different tune. You’d be glad you could get anything.

Our ACA coverage has been better than any I ever had under my employers. It’s just expensive as crap. But, we’ve had zero issues with it. Even for high level experimental treatments for my wife’s Parkinson’s Plus.

My gripe is that my employer provided insurance went up drastically when Obamacare kicked in.  The promises made about it turned out to be all lies, my insurance went up to subsidize others.

I’ll be on medicare in the near future and I’ll still have a leg to stand on to gripe about this mess because I’ve actually been paying for it for over 40 years, even though I would have gladly opted out, but I  didn’t have the option, just like social security.

[OlDawg]

5 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

My gripe is that my employer provided insurance went up drastically when Obamacare kicked in.  The promises made about it turned out to be all lies, my insurance went up to subsidize others.

I’ll be on medicare in the near future and I’ll still have a leg to stand on to gripe about this mess because I’ve actually been paying for it for over 40 years, even though I would have gladly opted out, but I  didn’t have the option, just like social security.

At going on 63, we’ve paid our share as well. Our employer based insurance went up as well while we were still working. We didn’t ask for the ACA. There were other ways to do things. But, that ship has sailed. Now, we don’t have a choice for 2 more years if we want any kind of insurance coverage.

[baddog]

4 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

My wife meets her OOP every year just due to injections and medicine to try to slow her progressive palsy, and helping keep her from choking on her food and asphyxiating herself, or contracting pneumonia and dying. Her OOP is $3600.

You really don’t know until you’re in someone else’s shoes.

I’m a less government guy. But, when they take away choices to push an agenda, you deal with it as you can.

ACA had no bearing on your Medicare.

Sorry about your wife. My Medicare covers my cancer treatments. 

[baddog]

6 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

My gripe is that my employer provided insurance went up drastically when Obamacare kicked in.  The promises made about it turned out to be all lies, my insurance went up to subsidize others.

I’ll be on medicare in the near future and I’ll still have a leg to stand on to gripe about this mess because I’ve actually been paying for it for over 40 years, even though I would have gladly opted out, but I  didn’t have the option, just like social security.

Same here. Great post.

[LumRaiderFan]

Just now, OlDawg said:

At going on 63, we’ve paid our share as well. We didn’t ask for the ACA. There were other ways to do things. But, that ship has sailed. Now, we don’t have a choice for 2 more years if we want any kind of insurance coverage.

Understood, OlDawg, you are a veteran, correct?

[OlDawg]

11 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Understood, OlDawg, you are a veteran, correct?

Yes. I’d go to the VA if I wanted to die. Besides, my wife still has to have coverage. We still would be dealing with ACA. She doesn’t qualify for Medicaid automatically for disability because she was diagnosed with Cortical Basal Degeneration vs Progressive Supranuclear Palsy even though they can’t know for sure until an autopsy of her brain. If diagnosed with PSP, she would have automatically qualified for Medicaid because of the average life expectancy of 7 years. CBD is about the same. But, it’s classified differently because they know so little about it.

She was denied Medicaid because of someone’s definition and classification.

[OlDawg]

17 minutes ago, baddog said:

Sorry about your wife. My Medicare covers my cancer treatments. 

Covered my dad’s as well. He denied chemo though. At 86, he said he lived well, and didn’t want to spend his remaining days going through that. He was ready to be with my mom. So, his last months were spent with us after dialysis failed to work any more.

[LumRaiderFan]

Just now, OlDawg said:

Yes. I’d go to the VA if I wanted to die. Besides, my wife still has to have coverage. We still would be dealing with ACA. She doesn’t qualify for Medicaid automatically for disability because she was diagnosed with Cortical Basal Degeneration vs Progressive Supranuclear Palsy even though they can’t know for sure until an autopsy. If diagnosed with PSP, she would have automatically qualified for Medicaid because of the average life expectancy of 7 years.

Very sorry to hear that, reason I asked is that for any veteran, I have always felt that the best private plans such as what you could have with a company should be available for veterans, choice of doctors, etc.  No veteran should have to jump hurdles like you are doing for good health insurance, you’ve earned it.  

I also understand there’s the way things should be and the way they are, I just feel our government rewards those that don’t deserve it and ignores those that do, simply for votes.

It’s why I’m not a fan.

[OlDawg]

Meanwhile, Kaiser employees don’t think a 21% pay increase is enough…

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[DCT]

51 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Federal workers are a drain on the economy. Not an adder.

Federal workers are the ones facing what you fear.  They are the gate keepers. They do the work so you can sleep at night. They work at your USP, Low, Medium and Minimum prisons.  Some are contract workers behind the fence. You really don’t know what you speak of.

[DCT]

34 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Yes. I’d go to the VA if I wanted to die. Besides, my wife still has to have coverage. We still would be dealing with ACA. She doesn’t qualify for Medicaid automatically for disability because she was diagnosed with Cortical Basal Degeneration vs Progressive Supranuclear Palsy even though they can’t know for sure until an autopsy of her brain. If diagnosed with PSP, she would have automatically qualified for Medicaid because of the average life expectancy of 7 years. CBD is about the same. But, it’s classified differently because they know so little about it.

She was denied Medicaid because of someone’s definition and classification.

People won’t understand until it hits closer to home.  Thank you for sharing. My heart goes out to you and your family.

[OlDawg]

21 minutes ago, DCT said:

Federal workers are the ones facing what you fear.  They are the gate keepers. They do the work so you can sleep at night. They work at your USP, Low, Medium and Minimum prisons.  Some are contract workers behind the fence. You really don’t know what you speak of.

As I said, they are a cost to the economy. Taxes are used to pay for their services. No different than the military.

Doesn’t mean they don’t perform a critical service.

I sleep pretty well with my Glock 27 in reach at night. Thanks.

[DCT]

9 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

As I said, they are a cost to the economy. Taxes are used to pay for their services. No different than the military.

Doesn’t mean they don’t perform a critical service.

Placing US soldiers in US cities is a cost to the economy.  Yes, taxes are used to pay for their services.  
Do you suggest we privatize the government?

[OlDawg]

7 minutes ago, DCT said:

Placing US soldiers in US cities is a cost to the economy.  Yes, taxes are used to pay for their services.  
Do you suggest we privatize the government?

Yes. In many—if not most cases—I suggest we privatize services the government currently provides. At the least, move the services more to the state level.

Federalism. A novel concept.