Orangefield (35) @ Woodville (14) FINAL

[oldschool2]

7 hours ago, Setx fan said:

There are plenty guys left off the state finalist teams. All these kids been winning since peewee. If your head guy is used to losing that can change the whole culture. And it looks like it's changing way faster than I thought 

Well.. that settles it.  We should definitely go ahead and order their state championship rings.

I mean.. winning since peewee?  No reason for a loss.. ever.  Everyone knows that absolutely nothing changes for a player between the ages of 10 and 18, right?

(Extreme eye roll)

[Setx fan]

21 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

Well.. that settles it.  We should definitely go ahead and order their state championship rings.

I mean.. winning since peewee?  No reason for a loss.. ever.  Everyone knows that absolutely nothing changes for a player between the ages of 10 and 18, right?

(Extreme eye roll)

Nothing has changed till this year. I'll tell you that much. 

[oldschool2]

1 hour ago, Setx fan said:

Nothing has changed till this year. I'll tell you that much. 

They didn’t lose anything to graduation from last year?  Opposing teams haven’t gotten a year older/stronger/faster ?  Opposing coaches haven’t also changed staffs or been exposed to different preparatory programs?

No.. A TON has changed.  As does everywhere.

[Setx fan]

1 minute ago, oldschool2 said:

They didn’t lose anything to graduation from last year?  Opposing teams haven’t gotten a year older/stronger/faster ?  Opposing coaches haven’t also changed staffs or been exposed to different preparatory programs?

No.. A TON has changed.  As does everywhere.

OF lost several from last year as well. We just simply didn't put the right guys on the field defensively. Offensively the OLine struggled as expected but not having the right guys on D made it super easy for OF. They ran through our front line like a wet paper bag and it's mostly because we didn't have the right guys out there

[oldschool2]

45 minutes ago, Setx fan said:

OF lost several from last year as well. We just simply didn't put the right guys on the field defensively. Offensively the OLine struggled as expected but not having the right guys on D made it super easy for OF. They ran through our front line like a wet paper bag and it's mostly because we didn't have the right guys out there

I’m just saying.. if any one single person is missing from last year’s team (especially if it was an impact player), then the team is different.  Even it’s the same exact players, the team is different.  Everybody grows and offseasons differently from one year to the next.  That’s including opponents.  And to imply that it “should” be a certain way because of something that happened several years in the past, or even a year ago, is a little… dumb.

Always take into consideration that a lot changes from year to year.  For every team/player/coach.  Don’t ever assume the characteristics are identical.  They’re not.

[jds82]

10 hours ago, Tiger33 said:

Dont they usually beat everyone in district

Key word demolish - and that includes demolishing WV (this year). Of course Newton has owned their district but it will be on another level this year! 

[Setx fan]

9 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

I’m just saying.. if any one single person is missing from last year’s team (especially if it was an impact player), then the team is different.  Even it’s the same exact players, the team is different.  Everybody grows and offseasons differently from one year to the next.  That’s including opponents.  And to imply that it “should” be a certain way because of something that happened several years in the past, or even a year ago, is a little… dumb.

Always take into consideration that a lot changes from year to year.  For every team/player/coach.  Don’t ever assume the characteristics are identical.  They’re not.

It's coaching man. Simple and plain. I know you like to defend the coaches but it is what it is. 

[jds82]

Okay let's pump the brakes people. WV is trash. It's not like OF is world beaters lol...

[Setx fan]

11 minutes ago, jds82 said:

Key word demolish - and that includes demolishing WV (this year). Of course Newton has owned their district but it will be on another level this year! 

Yea they're likely to put up 60 plus on woodville 

[Setx fan]

1 minute ago, jds82 said:

Okay let's pump the brakes people. WV is trash. It's not like OF is world beaters lol...

OF's a good team but the game shouldn't have gone that way 

[jds82]

8 minutes ago, Setx fan said:

Yea they're likely to put up 60 plus on woodville 

Yep 60 is the minimum and thats if there's no running clock.....

[Bobcat101]

Woodville has a Rough crowd. 
 

Woodville give this new coach a chance. Look at us…. We lost the first few games last year & everyone was gathering the pitch forks , now they are getting crow. 
 

look at WOS, came back & beat Newton with the same coaching staff as last year. 
 

your not helping the coaches & your killing the kids morale. 

[jds82]

20 minutes ago, Bobcat101 said:

Woodville has a Rough crowd. 
 

Woodville give this new coach a chance. Look at us…. We lost the first few games last year & everyone was gathering the pitch forks , now they are getting crow. 
 

look at WOS, came back & beat Newton with the same coaching staff as last year. 
 

your not helping the coaches & your killing the kids morale. 

Good....morale should be killed after that atrocious performance (or lack there of) last night! 

[89Falcon]

20 minutes ago, Bobcat101 said:

Woodville has a Rough crowd. 
 

Woodville give this new coach a chance. Look at us…. We lost the first few games last year & everyone was gathering the pitch forks , now they are getting crow. 
 

look at WOS, came back & beat Newton with the same coaching staff as last year. 
 

your not helping the coaches & your killing the kids morale. 

Yes OF has two of the three best players in the District and was always going to win this game. WV lost several key players from last year. No one should have though WV would beat OF in this game if they knew the rosters. 

[oldschool2]

1 hour ago, Setx fan said:

It's coaching man. Simple and plain. I know you like to defend the coaches but it is what it is. 

If it was ONLY coaching, then the same coaches would win the championship every year.  Literally, every year.  You can’t refute that.

[Reagan]

7 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

If it was ONLY coaching, then the same coaches would win the championship every year.  Literally, every year.  You can’t refute that.

Not true.  Nothing goes in a straight line.  That you can’t refute!

[Setx fan]

19 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

If it was ONLY coaching, then the same coaches would win the championship every year.  Literally, every year.  You can’t refute that.

That's not what I said but oh well. I don't know how many times I have to say they didn't put the right guys on the defensive front 

[Bobcat101]

22 minutes ago, Setx fan said:

That's not what I said but oh well. I don't know how many times I have to say they didn't put the right guys on the defensive front 

Well. Tell us who should play DL. I’d be interested in seeing the line up. I think O (Not OF) offensive line played hard. Remember Breaux was a OL Coach at the collegiate level 

[Setx fan]

13 minutes ago, Bobcat101 said:

Well. Tell us who should play DL. I’d be interested in seeing the line up. I think O (Not OF) offensive line played hard. Remember Breaux was a OL Coach at the collegiate level 

I already listed the guys that should be there on another thread. 

[oldschool2]

1 hour ago, Setx fan said:

That's not what I said but oh well. I don't know how many times I have to say they didn't put the right guys on the defensive front 

You definitely said, “Nothing has changed till this year”.. implying that the new coaching staff didn’t have the right guys in the right place or whatever you’re blaming them for .. eliminating all responsibility for the players that, while not the same roster as last year,.. have been “winning since peewee”.  So that couldn’t possibly be the reason.

Same excuses different year.. different school.  WV has the best season in school history (right?), then loses some of the ones responsible, and loses first game to a team projected to win their district in a higher classification.. “The coaches had them out of position. These kids have won forever. Blah blah blah..”

Hilarious lol 

[oldschool2]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Not true.  Nothing goes in a straight line.  That you can’t refute!

Sorry, my man.  I made a list of things I planned on doing today.  Arguing with you about the exact influence of a high school football coach didn’t make the list.

Maybe some other time.

[Reagan]

6 minutes ago, oldschool2 said:

Sorry, my man.  I made a list of things I planned on doing today.  Arguing with you about the exact influence of a high school football coach didn’t make the list.

Maybe some other time.

No need to bother, my man.  People in the know understand what makes a successful program and it all starts with coaching.  But, you can have your opinion about everything happens in a straight line to defend your position.