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9 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Will hurt biden way more than any republican, folks are praying for an alternative to biden that isn't Trump.

This is the democrat version of Ross Perot.

RFK is running better with Repubs than with Dems.  That's why he's rebranding as an independent.  You know who is praying for an alternative to Biden that isn't trump?  a good chunk of republicans, as well as most moderates.  RFK will definitely take more votes from Trump than Biden.  Biden had a 50 point lead over him in polls amongst democrats.

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2 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

RFK is running better with Repubs than with Dems.  That's why he's rebranding as an independent.  You know who is praying for an alternative to Biden that isn't trump?  a good chunk of republicans, as well as most moderates.  RFK will definitely take more votes from Trump than Biden.

Nope, believe you're wrong on this one, no doubt he will take some votes away from Trump but all I heard in the last election, even from from several on this site, that a vote for Biden wasn't a vote for Biden, it was a vote a vote against Trump.

Now those millions have someone to vote for that isn't Trump or Biden.

I won't waste time arguing something that is simply speculation, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one, we'll see.

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4 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Nope, believe you're wrong on this one, no doubt he will take some votes away from Trump but all I heard in the last election, even from from several on this site, that a vote for Biden wasn't a vote for Biden, it was a vote a vote against Trump.

Now those millions have someone to vote for that isn't Trump or Biden.

I won't waste time arguing something that is simply speculation, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one, we'll see.

Your theory only works if the 3rd party has an actual chance to win.  This one doesnt.  We'll see how it plays out, but most people in the center who previously voted against Trump understand enough to realize that a vote for RFK is in fact a vote for Trump, as RFK has no chance to win.  If they're insistent on voting against Trump, they're also not going to cast a vote that increases Trump's chance to win, but will instead just vote for Biden again.  Where Trump gets hurt is the people on the right who were forced to vote for Trump even though they hate him, who now have a more palatable option.  But time will tell.   

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31 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Your theory only works if the 3rd party has an actual chance to win.  This one doesnt.  We'll see how it plays out, but most people in the center who previously voted against Trump understand enough to realize that a vote for RFK is in fact a vote for Trump, as RFK has no chance to win.  If they're insistent on voting against Trump, they're also not going to cast a vote that increases Trump's chance to win, but will instead just vote for Biden again.  Where Trump gets hurt is the people on the right who were forced to vote for Trump even though they hate him, who now have a more palatable option.  But time will tell.   

You give the American voter way too much credit, lol, I don't think they give it that much consideration.

There will be plenty of folks like myself that aren't fans at all of Trump the man, but still know that if it come down to him or Biden, it's a no-brainer for the good of the country, while also realizing that RFK would likely be a wasted vote, even though I think he has some good ideas.

Perot pulled votes almost 100% from Bush while RFK can pull from both bases.

One thing is for sure, time will tell

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1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Will hurt biden way more than any republican, folks are praying for an alternative to biden that isn't Trump.

This is the democrat version of Ross Perot.

I have to agree with you on this.  Plus, there's another candidate that will pull from Biden.  That is Cornel West.  He's a green commie pinko.  Won't pull from Trump for sure.  As for as Kennedy, people are looking for "Anybody But Biden!"  These are also the ones that may not go for Trump.  But, on the other hand, people are realizing that they had it pretty good under Trump.  And also realizing how bad it is under JoeBama.  Perot pulled 19%.  Hard to tell if Kennedy and West could pull that much.  Without the 19% pulled, we would not have had Clintonista!  

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22 hours ago, Englebert said:

I'm anxious to see who Kennedy targets in his add campaigns. That may decide from which candidate he pulls more votes.

Well, he fancies himself a Democrat, he's was raised in a Democrat dynasty and he's pissed at the DNC for zero consideration as a candidate. My guess is he will target both, but I think it's fair to say he has a bigger bone to pick with Biden.

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